{"id":178938,"date":"2017-02-22T03:55:19","date_gmt":"2017-02-22T08:55:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/supreme-court-considers-parents-rights-after-boy-killed-by-agent-across-mexican-border-washington-times\/"},"modified":"2017-02-22T03:55:19","modified_gmt":"2017-02-22T08:55:19","slug":"supreme-court-considers-parents-rights-after-boy-killed-by-agent-across-mexican-border-washington-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/supreme-court-considers-parents-rights-after-boy-killed-by-agent-across-mexican-border-washington-times\/","title":{"rendered":"Supreme Court considers parents&#8217; rights after boy killed by agent across Mexican border &#8211; Washington Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    The Supreme Court    struggled Tuesday to define limits to the Constitutions Fourth    Amendment in a tragic case in which a U.S. Border Patrol agent    fired his weapon and killed a 15-year-old boy on the Mexican    side of the line.  <\/p>\n<p>    Some of the justices feared that if they went too far, they    could open the U.S. military to claims from victims of drone    attacks in foreign countries. But the courts liberal wing worried that    unless they gave the family its day in court, it had no    recourse to punish rogue agents.  <\/p>\n<p>    You have a very sympathetic case, Justice Stephen G. Breyer    told the attorneys for the family of Sergio Hernandez, the boy    killed in 2010 by the shot fired by agent Jesus Mesa Jr.  <\/p>\n<p>    Mr. Mesa was cleared after    a probe by the U.S.    government, which said it could not establish that he    violated Border Patrol policies.  <\/p>\n<p>    The family says it wants justice in the courts. The only    problem: Lower courts have ruled that since the boy was in    Mexico, the Fourth Amendment protections dont apply in this    case.  <\/p>\n<p>    Robert C. Hilliard, the attorney for the Hernandez family, cast    his case as a defense for other Mexicans who might find    themselves in the same situation. He said there is an ongoing    domestic routine law enforcement issue that needs to be    solved.  <\/p>\n<p>    Were here because the interaction of the Border Patrol in    this area, the government    has taken the position that on the border, the Constitution    turns off if the deadly force goes across the border, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    He said there have been 10 instances in which the Border Patrol    has fired from the U.S. into Mexico and killed someone.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ahead of Tuesdays oral argument, some analysts said the case    could give an indication of how the justices might rule on the    extreme vetting executive order issued by President Trump. That    order has been mostly blocked by federal courts, which ruled    that potential visitors outside the U.S. and foreigners inside    the U.S. illegally have constitutional rights that must be    respected.  <\/p>\n<p>    But the justices didnt stray far afield Tuesday. Instead, they    debated whether they could draw a line that would allow the    family to sue in this case but wouldnt open a whole category    of lawsuits against U.S. troops who create collateral damage.  <\/p>\n<p>    How do you analyze the case of a drone strike in Iraq where    the plane is piloted from Nevada? Chief Justice John G.    Roberts Jr. asked Mr. Hilliard.  <\/p>\n<p>    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg waved aside those concerns, saying    thats a military operation that could be distinguished from    a border encounter involving a federal law enforcement officer.  <\/p>\n<p>    The chief justice did not seem swayed by the distinction,    particularly in a tort claim against a federal employee.  <\/p>\n<p>    The case could turn on the exact spot where the slaying    occurred. The boy was shot in a culvert that is maintained by    both the U.S. and Mexico  though the ground where he fell is    clearly on the Mexican side, the attorneys said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Some of the courts    liberal justices said that if the U.S. government has some authority    over the territory, that could be a zone where Fourth Amendment    protections against searches and seizures  and in this case    unlawful death  would apply.  <\/p>\n<p>    But Randolph J. Ortega, Mr.    Mesas attorney, said the matter of the border cant be    minimized.  <\/p>\n<p>    Wars have been fought to establish borders. The border is very    real, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Mexico had asked for Mr.    Mesa to be extradited to face charges there, but the    U.S. government refused.    The Mexican government then backed the familys lawsuit in    court.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Visit link:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtontimes.com\/news\/2017\/feb\/21\/supreme-court-weighs-mexico-border-killing-4th-ame\/\" title=\"Supreme Court considers parents' rights after boy killed by agent across Mexican border - Washington Times\">Supreme Court considers parents' rights after boy killed by agent across Mexican border - Washington Times<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> The Supreme Court struggled Tuesday to define limits to the Constitutions Fourth Amendment in a tragic case in which a U.S. Border Patrol agent fired his weapon and killed a 15-year-old boy on the Mexican side of the line.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/supreme-court-considers-parents-rights-after-boy-killed-by-agent-across-mexican-border-washington-times\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94879],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-178938","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fourth-amendment"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/178938"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=178938"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/178938\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=178938"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=178938"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=178938"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}