{"id":15712,"date":"2013-06-25T17:43:10","date_gmt":"2013-06-25T21:43:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/ron-paul-what-we-have-learned-from-afghanistan\/"},"modified":"2013-06-25T17:43:10","modified_gmt":"2013-06-25T21:43:10","slug":"ron-paul-what-we-have-learned-from-afghanistan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/ron-paul\/ron-paul-what-we-have-learned-from-afghanistan\/","title":{"rendered":"Ron Paul: &quot;What We Have Learned From Afghanistan&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Authored by Ron Paul via The Free    Foundation,  <\/p>\n<p>    Last week the Taliban opened an office in Doha, Qatar    with the US governments blessing. They raised the    Taliban flag at the opening ceremony and referred to    Afghanistan as the \"Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan\"the name    they used when they were in charge before the US attack in    2001.  <\/p>\n<p>    The US had meant for the Taliban office in Doha to be    only a venue for a new round of talks on an end to the war in    Afghanistan. The Taliban opening looked very much like    a government in exile. The Karzai government was annoyed that    the US and the Taliban had scheduled talks without even    notifying Kabul. Karzais government felt as irrelevant to    negotiations on post-war Afghanistan as they soon will be on    the ground. It seemed strangely like Paris in 1968, where the    US met with North Vietnamese representatives to negotiate a way    out of that war, which claimed nearly 60,000 Americans and many    times that number of Vietnamese lives.  <\/p>\n<p>    For years many of us had argued the need to get out of    Afghanistan. To end the fighting, the dying, the    destruction, the nation-building. To end the foolish fantasy    that we were building a Western-style democracy there. We    cannot leave, we were told for all those years. If we leave    Afghanistan now, the Taliban will come back! Well guess what,    after 12 years, trillions of dollars, more than 2,200 Americans    killed, and perhaps more than 50,000 dead Afghan civilians and    fighters, the Taliban is coming back anyway!  <\/p>\n<p>    The long US war in Afghanistan never made any sense in    the first place. The Taliban did not attack the US on    9\/11. The Authorization for the use of force that we passed    after the attacks of 9\/11 said nothing about a decade-long    occupation of Afghanistan. But unfortunately two US presidents    have taken it to mean that they could make war anywhere at any    time they please. Congress, as usual, did nothing to rein in    the president, although several Members tried to repeal the    authorization.  <\/p>\n<p>    Afghanistan brought the Soviet Union to its knees. We    learned nothing from it.  <\/p>\n<p>    We left Iraq after a decade of fighting and the country is in    far worse shape than when we attacked in 2003. After    trillions of dollars wasted and tens of thousands of lives    lost, Iraq is a devastated, desperate, and violent place with a    presence of al Qaeda. No one in his right mind speaks    of a US victory in Iraq these days. We learned nothing from it.  <\/p>\n<p>    We are leaving Afghanistan after 12 years with nothing to show    for it but trillions of dollars wasted and thousands of lives    lost. Afghanistan is a devastated country with a weak,    puppet governmentand now we negotiate with those very    people we fought for those 12 years, who are preparing to    return to power! Still we learn nothing.  <\/p>\n<p>    Instead of learning from these disasters brought about    by the interventionists and their failed foreign policy, the    president is now telling us that we have to go into    Syria!  <\/p>\n<p>    US Army Col. Harry Summers told a story about a meeting he had    with a North Vietnamese colonel named Tu while he visiting    Hanoi in 1975. At the meeting, Col. Summers told Tu, \"You know,    you never defeated us on the battlefield.\" Tu paused for a    moment, then replied, \"That may be so. But it is also    irrelevant.\"  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to see the original:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/news\/2013-06-24\/ron-paul-what-we-have-learned-afghanistan\" title=\"Ron Paul: &quot;What We Have Learned From Afghanistan&quot;\">Ron Paul: &quot;What We Have Learned From Afghanistan&quot;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Authored by Ron Paul via The Free Foundation, Last week the Taliban opened an office in Doha, Qatar with the US governments blessing. They raised the Taliban flag at the opening ceremony and referred to Afghanistan as the \"Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan\"the name they used when they were in charge before the US attack in 2001. The US had meant for the Taliban office in Doha to be only a venue for a new round of talks on an end to the war in Afghanistan <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/ron-paul\/ron-paul-what-we-have-learned-from-afghanistan\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-15712","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ron-paul"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15712"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15712"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15712\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15712"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15712"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15712"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}