{"id":147008,"date":"2016-02-02T16:48:53","date_gmt":"2016-02-02T21:48:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.designerchildren.com\/cryonics-the-skeptics-dictionary-skepdic-com\/"},"modified":"2016-02-02T16:48:53","modified_gmt":"2016-02-02T21:48:53","slug":"cryonics-the-skeptics-dictionary-skepdic-com","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/cryonics\/cryonics-the-skeptics-dictionary-skepdic-com\/","title":{"rendered":"cryonics &#8211; The Skeptic&#039;s Dictionary &#8211; Skepdic.com"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Cryonics claims it can store a dead human body at low    temperatures in such a way that it will be possible to    revitalize that body and restore life at some unspecified    future date. One hook the cryonics folks use is to give hope    that a cure for a disease one dies of today will be found    tomorrow, allowing that cure to be applied to the thawed body    before or while bringing the dead person back to life. Cryonics    might be called resurrection by technology and believers in it    might be classified as suffering from the Moses syndrome. The simple fact is    once you are dead, you are dead forever. This fact may seem    horrifying, but it is not nearly as horrifying as the thought    of living forever.  <\/p>\n<p>    The technology exists to freeze or preserve people and    that technology is improving and will probably get better. The    technology to revivify a frozen body exists in the imagination.    Nanotechnology,    for example, is a technology that supporters of cryonics appeal    to. Someday, they say, we'll be able to rebuild anything,    including diseased or damaged cells in the body, with nanobots. So,    no matter what disease destroyed healthy cells in the living    body before preservation and no matter what damage was done to    the cells of the frozen body during storage, nanotechnology    will allow us to bring the dead back to life. This seems like    wishful thinking.    Nanotechnology might rebuild a mass of dead tissue into a mass    of healthy tissue, but without a complete isomorphic model of    the brain it will be impossible to return a mushy brain to the    exact state it was in before death occurred. (Of course, since    this is an exercise in imagination, one can posit that some day    we will be able to preserve the brain without any decomposition    or transformation at all.) In any case, some other jolt,    probably electricity, will be needed to get the heart beating    and the brain working again, assuming, of course, that the mush    brain has been reconstructed into a healthy brain.  <\/p>\n<p>    Some preserved by cryonics have the head severed from the    body after death. Then, either the head alone is preserved, or    both the head and the body are preserved separately. Maybe some    future technology will allow the head to be attached to an    artificial body. It can be imagined without contradiction, as    the philosophers say, so it is not logically impossible that    some day our planet will be inhabited by bodiless heads that    are connected to machines that allow either actual or virtual    experiences of any kind imaginable without requiring the head    to leave the room. Of course, when that times comes medical    science will have advanced to the point where the aging process    can be reversed or maintained in stasis.  <\/p>\n<p>    A business based on little more than hope for    developments that can be imagined by science is quackery. (Cryonics should not be confused    with cryogenics, which is a branch of physics that studies the    effects of low temperatures on the structure of objects.) There    is little reason to believe that the promises of cryonics will    ever be fulfilled. Even if a dead body is somehow preserved for    a century or two and then repaired, whatever is animated by    whatever process will not be the same person who died. The    brain is the key to consciousness and to who a person is. There    is no reason to believe that a brain preserved by whatever    means and restored to whatever state by nanobots will result in    a consciousness that is in any way connected to the    consciousness of the person who died two centuries    earlier.  <\/p>\n<p>    For those who want to live forever, cloning might be a    more realistic possibility but I wouldn't bank on it. First,    there is the aging problem. Even if cloning is successful, you    won't be able to clone yourself as younger. Of course, you can    hope that future technology will have solved the aging problem.    Perhaps your body can be cloned repeatedly until science can    assist you to overcome aging. However, there is no reason    to believe that your clone would be a continuation of    you. Your bodies might have identical looking cells, but    the only way your minds could be identical is if you had no    experience. (It is logically impossible for your bodies to have    identical experiences since they occupy different spatial and    temporal coordinates.) In that case, you would be as good as    dead.  <\/p>\n<p>    origin of cryonics  <\/p>\n<p>    Teacher Robert Ettinger (physics and math) brought    cryonics into the intellectual mainstream in 1964 with        The Prospect of Immortality. Ettinger founded the    Cryonics Institute and the    related Immortalist Society. He    got the idea for cryonics from a story by Neil R. Jones. \"The    Jameson Satellite\" appeared in the July 1931 issue of    Amazing Stories. It told the tale of  <\/p>\n<p>      one Professor Jameson [who] had his corpse sent into      earth orbit where (as the author mistakenly thought) it would      remain preserved indefinitely at near absolute zero. And so      it did, in the story, until millions of years later, when,      with humanity extinct, a race of mechanical men with organic      brains chanced upon it. They revived and repaired Jameson's      brain, installed it in a mechanical body, and he became one      of their company.*    <\/p>\n<p>    Thus was born the idea that we could freeze our bodies,    repair them at a later date, and bring them back to life when    technology had advanced sufficiently to do the repairs and the    reviving.  <\/p>\n<p>    ethical & other issues  <\/p>\n<p>    I will leave to others to discuss most of the     ethical, legal, political, and economic    issues of cryonics. I'll conclude with some comments about the    cryonics case of Ted Williams.  <\/p>\n<p>    Williams died in 2002 at the age of 83. According to his    estranged daughter, Barbara Joyce (Bobby-Jo Ferrell) Williams,    he left a will in which he expressed his desire to be cremated    and have his ashes spread over his favorite fishing grounds in    the Florida Keys. His son (Barbara Joyce's half-brother), John    Henry Williams, arranged for Williams's body to be processed by    Alcor LIfe Extension    Foundation. A story in     SportsIllustrated.com (SI) stated:  <\/p>\n<p>      Hall of Famer Ted Williams' head and body are being      stored in separate containers at an Arizona cryonics lab that      is still trying to collect a $111,000 bill from      Williams' son [he had already paid $25,000], according to a      story by Tom Verducci in the latest issue of Sports      Illustrated.    <\/p>\n<p>    Alcor still has Williams's head in a canister and his    body in a tank, both filled with liquid nitrogen (to keep the    remains at a cool -321 degrees Fahrenheit). According to SI,    Alcor representatives met with John Henry Williams, but not Ted    Williams, about a year before Ted's death. Furthermore, SI    reported that the Consent for Cryonic Suspension form submitted    to Alcor after Williams had died had a blank line where    his signature should have been.  <\/p>\n<p>    There was a lawsuit by the estranged daughter that    fizzled, allegedly for lack of funds, but no legal action by    the authorities was taken against John Henry or Alcor. There is    a movement still going to right this ship (see the Free Ted Williams website.) Larry    Johnson, who worked briefly at Alcor, is leading the crusade    to get Congress and a couple of state legislatures to regulate    the cryonics industry and have Ted Williams cremated. A video    interview with Johnson on \"Good Morning America\" discussing the    disposition of Ted Williams's body at Alcor can be viewed by    clicking here. Johnson's book    on the subject,     Shiver:    A Whistleblower's Chilling Expose of Cryonics and the Truth    Behind What Happened to Ted Williams, is scheduled to    be published in May 2009.  <\/p>\n<p>    See also Ralian and my comments    on cryonics in Mass Media    Funk.  <\/p>\n<p>    further reading  <\/p>\n<p>    books and<br \/>\narticles  <\/p>\n<p>        Ettinger, Robert C. W. 1964. The Prospect of    Immortality. Doubleday.  <\/p>\n<p>        Kunzman, Alan, with Paul Nieto. 2004. Mothermelters: The    inside story of Cryonics and the Dora Kent Homicide. 1st    Books Library. (For Alcor's version of the case, see    Our    Finest Hours: Notes On the Dora Kent Crisis by Michael    Perry, Ph.D.)  <\/p>\n<p>        Johnson, Larry with Scott Baldyga. 2009. Shiver: A    Whistleblower's Chilling Expose of Cryonics and the Truth    Behind What Happened to Ted Williams. Morgan James    Publishing.  <\/p>\n<p>        Polidoro, J. P. 2005. Brain Freeze -321 f    ~Saving \"Reggie\" Sanford~. Xlibris Corporation. (A    novel about a former baseball player whose body is whisked off    to a cryonics facility....)  <\/p>\n<p>    websites and blogs  <\/p>\n<p>        Nano Nonsense & Cryonics by Michael Shermer  <\/p>\n<p>    CryonicsA    futile desire for everlasting life - Only on    Wednesdays  <\/p>\n<p>        Is Cryonics Feasible? Stephen Barrett, M.D.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dora    Kent - Wikipedia (\"News coverage at the time [1987] was    limited, due to the gruesomeness of the case and the Christmas    season.\")  <\/p>\n<p>    Cryonics    UK  <\/p>\n<p>    Debates about    cryonics with skeptics (condensed from exchanges that    occurred in May-June 2006 in the James Randi Educational Forum    (JREF).)  <\/p>\n<p>    Cryonics: The    Issues (An Overview) by Ben Best  <\/p>\n<p>        Can cryogenic cooling miraculously improve car parts, sports    equipment, and musical instruments? - The Straight    Dope  <\/p>\n<p>    Last updated 05-Dec-2013  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.skepdic.com\/cryonics.html\" title=\"cryonics - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com\">cryonics - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Cryonics claims it can store a dead human body at low temperatures in such a way that it will be possible to revitalize that body and restore life at some unspecified future date. One hook the cryonics folks use is to give hope that a cure for a disease one dies of today will be found tomorrow, allowing that cure to be applied to the thawed body before or while bringing the dead person back to life. Cryonics might be called resurrection by technology and believers in it might be classified as suffering from the Moses syndrome.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/cryonics\/cryonics-the-skeptics-dictionary-skepdic-com\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187739],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-147008","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cryonics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/147008"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=147008"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/147008\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=147008"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=147008"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=147008"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}