{"id":1127627,"date":"2024-07-30T04:08:59","date_gmt":"2024-07-30T08:08:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/the-divisive-poker-hack-that-potentially-aided-the-2024-wsop-champion-and-has-some-calling-for-a-computer-ban-explained-for-the-win\/"},"modified":"2024-07-30T04:08:59","modified_gmt":"2024-07-30T08:08:59","slug":"the-divisive-poker-hack-that-potentially-aided-the-2024-wsop-champion-and-has-some-calling-for-a-computer-ban-explained-for-the-win","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/poker\/the-divisive-poker-hack-that-potentially-aided-the-2024-wsop-champion-and-has-some-calling-for-a-computer-ban-explained-for-the-win\/","title":{"rendered":"The divisive poker hack that potentially aided the 2024 WSOP champion and has some calling for a computer ban, explained &#8211; For The Win"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    If you watched the World Series of Poker final    table last week, you may have noticed eventual champion    Jonathan Tamayo talking to a team of people on the rail in    between hands, including one with a computer. And if youre a    casual observer like myself, you may have thought nothing of    it.  <\/p>\n<p>    As it turns out, those trips to the sideline werent as    innocuous as we thought.  <\/p>\n<p>    Since Tamayos $10 million triumph, some within the poker    community are accusing his team of using poker solvers, as    summarized by the Las Vegas    Review-Journal. The ethicality of that is now being called    into question. Allow me to explain.  <\/p>\n<p>    A poker solver, or simply a solver, is a piece of software    that calculates optimal strategies for certain scenarios    inputted by the user. In other words, they tell you how to play    your hand.  <\/p>\n<p>    While I cant say for certain Tamayos team used solvers, no    one from that side has denied it. In fact, the person on the    computer  four-time WSOP event winner and owner of the DTO    Poker Trainer app Dominik Nitsche  has actually been on X    defending his actions and even trolling his accusers.  <\/p>\n<p>    Tamayo was often seen consulting with Nitsche, who is believed    to have been running simulations on his laptop. Also a part of    Tamayos team was 2015 WSOP main event champion Joe McKeethan,    who is believed to have been watching the delayed PokerGo    stream of the tournament on his phone.  <\/p>\n<p>    Well, kinda? According to the Review-Journal, WSOP rule 64c    prohibits participants from using betting apps, gaming charts,    or any poker information tool while involved in a hand.  <\/p>\n<p>    But as I see it with my novice understanding, the usefulness of    Tamayo being fed information from solvers between hands is    limited. Getting information on how past hands should have been    played could definitely influence how he might approach future    hands, but thats it. Essentially, it was just another tool in    the coaching toolbox, and there are no rules against post-hand    coaching  <\/p>\n<p>    But there is a gray area. While the rule book only prohibits    the use of solvers while involved in a hand, there were    apparently in-house announcements before the start of each WSOP    tournament prohibiting solvers at any point in time.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thats what people are trying to figure out. Regardless, the    optics are bad.  <\/p>\n<p>    You could argue that since he wasnt the one on the computer    running the software, and because it wasnt being used while he    was actively in the middle of a hand, he didnt break the    rules.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its also tough to hold someone accountable based on    announcements they can say they didnt hear, especially when    the rulebook isnt as specific. But the poker community is    divided.  <\/p>\n<p>    Nitsche argued on X in a back-and-forth with poker pro Daniel    Negreanu that nothing in the WSOP rulebook prohibits the use of    real-time assistance (RTA). To which Negreanu responded with video of the    announcement.  <\/p>\n<p>    He concluded that what Nitsche did was wrong, completely    outside the spirit of the game, gray and shady at best.  <\/p>\n<p>    Fellow pros Bryan Paris and Doug Polk also thought the computer    was bad optics, though Paris    made it clear Tamayo earned his win.  <\/p>\n<p>    Having this extra feedback between hands is helpful but a far    cry from the automation of the game. Even with this feedback,    Tamayo very much earned his victory, he wrote.  <\/p>\n<p>    Poker pro Patrick Leonard pointed out how computers and    coaching from the rail have always been a part of the game.    Though he said hed also like to see all electronics banned in    the future.  <\/p>\n<p>    Tamayo hasnt been as outspoke on X, though he did credit    Nitsche and McKeethan after his win, saying Joe and Dom    actually helped. If they werent here, I likely do not win this    tournament.  <\/p>\n<p>    Runner-up Jordan Griff said on Polks podcast he may have said    something to the tournament supervisor if he had confirmation    Tamayos team was running sims. But he credited Tamayo for    winning their heads-up battle.  <\/p>\n<p>  Gannett may earn revenue from sports betting operators for  audience referrals to betting services. Sports betting operators  have no influence over nor are any such revenues in any way  dependent on or linked to the newsrooms or news coverage. Terms  apply, see operator site for Terms and Conditions. If you or  someone you know has a gambling problem, help is available. 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