{"id":1127302,"date":"2024-07-21T17:02:45","date_gmt":"2024-07-21T21:02:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/the-muck-rail-helping-wsop-champ-between-hands-bad-for-the-game-pokernews-com\/"},"modified":"2024-07-21T17:02:45","modified_gmt":"2024-07-21T21:02:45","slug":"the-muck-rail-helping-wsop-champ-between-hands-bad-for-the-game-pokernews-com","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/poker\/the-muck-rail-helping-wsop-champ-between-hands-bad-for-the-game-pokernews-com\/","title":{"rendered":"The Muck: Rail Helping WSOP Champ Between Hands Bad for the Game? &#8211; PokerNews.com"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    There is no rule against a player's rail watching the    livestream or reviewing solvers during the World Series    of Poker (WSOP) Main Event final table. But    Alan Keating is not a fan, and he isn't    the only one.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jonathan Tamayo won the     2024 WSOP Main Event for $10 million on Wednesday. He broke    no rules and earned that victory, much like his longtime friend    Joe McKeehen, who was on his rail, did in    2015.  <\/p>\n<p>    There was some debate on social media, partially led by    Keating, over Tamayo conferring with his rail in between hands    quite frequently during the final table. And that is what we're    going to dive into in this post-WSOP edition of The Muck.  <\/p>\n<p>    As Keating mentioned in a separate tweet, the Main Event is the    game's \"biggest stage.\" Thousands of viewers who don't    regularly watch poker tune in to see poker's Super Bowl    equivalent. The     Hustler Casino Live fan favorite asked his followers if    players at the Main Event final table having a team on the rail    using software to coach one of the players makes them more or    less interested in poker?  <\/p>\n<p>    \"If poker needs recreational players, then there's a need to    produce an environment where the average recreational player    believes that they have a decent enough chance of winning,\"    Vincent Robinson (@pokervincent)    responded.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Rails are for cheering, not for solving,\" @Bquadrant argues.  <\/p>\n<p>    Keating has always been more of a cash game player than a    tournament grinder. He rarely plays tournaments, and instead    regularly competes in high stakes private games in Los Angeles    and Las Vegas against recreational players. He competed in a    Hustler Casino Live game     last month against controversial social media influencer    Dan Bilzerian, video game streamer Ninja,    and boxer Ryan Garcia.  <\/p>\n<p>    Competing against players using solvers or getting assistance    from coaches such as McKeehen and Dominik    Nitsche, who had a piece of Tamayo's Main Event action,    doesn't seem too exciting to Keating or his friends. He wrote    that \"tournament poker isn't for us.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    As @PatMoorePoker shared on X, Tamayo's rail provided some    post-hand assistance to the champion at the final table via a    laptop and cell phone, which had the PokerGO livestream    visible. It's unclear how much the champion benefited from the    sideline coaching. But it did spark debate about if it gives a    player an unfair advantage and if the practice is bad for the    growth of the game.  <\/p>\n<p>    Reviewing plays is a common in-game practice in sports,    especially team sports. But many have argued that since poker    isn't a team sport, using solvers and sims on the rail    shouldn't be permitted.  <\/p>\n<p>    Nitsche, who not only had a piece of Tamayo's action but also    owns the DTO Poker Trainer software that assisted the champion    in between hands, took aim at Keating's comments.  <\/p>\n<p>    It's clear that both poker players want to grow the game in    different ways. Keating is concerned with scaring away the    recreational players, while Nitsche is focused on helping poker    players improve their game. They are polar opposites on the    felt  one (Nitsche) playing GTO style in tournaments, and the    other (Keating) VIP'ing 80% in cash games.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Look man, they're playing for $10 million. They're going to do    anything within the rules to win. If you don't like it then    complain to the organizers,\" @APAP74902546 tweeted at Keating.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"You speak with the privilege of someone who plays poker for    fun, but has absolutely no burden or obligation to make a    profit,\" writes @MagicJourney69, taking a shot at Keating.  <\/p>\n<p>    Fedor Holz, whose 2016 run was among the    best in poker history, chimed in with his take on the issue.    The GGPoker    ambassador appears to side with Keating instead of his fellow    German, Nitsche.  <\/p>\n<p>    There are two things that are true  Tamayo is the world    champion and didn't break any rules, and Keating has a right to    dislike the practice.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See original here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pokernews.com\/news\/2024\/07\/alan-keating-wsop-main-event-controversy-46608.htm\" title=\"The Muck: Rail Helping WSOP Champ Between Hands Bad for the Game? - PokerNews.com\">The Muck: Rail Helping WSOP Champ Between Hands Bad for the Game? - PokerNews.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> There is no rule against a player's rail watching the livestream or reviewing solvers during the World Series of Poker (WSOP) Main Event final table. But Alan Keating is not a fan, and he isn't the only one.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/poker\/the-muck-rail-helping-wsop-champ-between-hands-bad-for-the-game-pokernews-com\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[436508],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1127302","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-poker"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1127302"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1127302"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1127302\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1127302"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1127302"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1127302"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}