{"id":1127178,"date":"2024-07-20T04:22:02","date_gmt":"2024-07-20T08:22:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/can-we-get-dna-out-of-fossils-the-naked-scientists\/"},"modified":"2024-07-20T04:22:02","modified_gmt":"2024-07-20T08:22:02","slug":"can-we-get-dna-out-of-fossils-the-naked-scientists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/dna\/can-we-get-dna-out-of-fossils-the-naked-scientists\/","title":{"rendered":"Can we get DNA out of fossils? &#8211; The Naked Scientists"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Thanks to Jack Lovegrove for the answer!  <\/p>\n<p>    James - Can you extract DNA from fossils? Thanks, Phil. You've    struck upon the fabulous field of ancient DNA. To help me    answer your question. We put in a call to Jack Lovegrove at the    Natural History Museum  <\/p>\n<p>    Jack - For the majority of fossils, the answer is no.    Traditionally, when we think of fossils, we are thinking of    things that are many million years old. As the fossil is    trapped in the sediment and the sediment is squished down and    lithified turned to rock, pore waters get into the fossil and    replace the original bone with different minerals, and the bone    is remineralised, in effect, turned into stone. However, we now    have been able to extract DNA from some of the most recent    fossils. So the oldest DNA that's been extracted directly from    a fossil comes from just over a million years ago, which was    from a mammoth tooth that was found in the permafrost. The    actual oldest DNA that's been extracted from anywhere comes not    directly from a fossil, but from the sediment itself. And    that's from a site in Greenland and about 2 million years old.  <\/p>\n<p>    James - That's interesting. So some of that biological material    preserves for millions of years. Life on Earth though, as we    know, has been going on for tens and hundreds of millions of    years. What's the limiting factor to DNA hanging around for    longer, perhaps? Is it, as Paul suggests on our forum, DNA is    strung together by means of phosphate ether bonds, which are    not the most stable of chemical bonds.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jack - Paul is right. I'd say there are two main limiting    factors, and one of them is that DNA is not a very robust    molecule compared to some other organic molecules and organic    components of living things. So for example, there have been    some controversial studies that have reported finding tiny    traces of organic material from much older fossils. So even up    to about 190 million years old. But even then, they're not    talking about DNA. They're talking about very degraded remnants    of collagen and maybe individual amino acids. It's been    suggested, have been found in egg shells, but not DNA because    it does fall apart. And the second reason that we don't find    DNA is that most fossils have been remineralised. So all the    organic material has been replaced with inorganic minerals.  <\/p>\n<p>    James - Your specialty at the Natural History Museum is    dinosaurs. It's bad news for those who are helping one day, we    might uncover dinosaur DNA. Or is it?  <\/p>\n<p>    Jack - In terms of non-bird dinosaurs, I would say it's very    unlikely we're going to get DNA from their fossils. Sort of    last of the non-bird dinosaurs, things like triceratops, that's    about 66 million years ago. And then the stuff I work on, the    earliest dinosaurs, you're looking at at least 240 million    years ago. So sort of an order of magnitude out.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the rest here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thenakedscientists.com\/articles\/questions\/can-we-get-dna-out-fossils\" title=\"Can we get DNA out of fossils? - The Naked Scientists\" rel=\"noopener\">Can we get DNA out of fossils? - The Naked Scientists<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Thanks to Jack Lovegrove for the answer! James - Can you extract DNA from fossils? 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