{"id":1126543,"date":"2024-07-01T01:32:25","date_gmt":"2024-07-01T05:32:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/letters-between-joe-biden-and-donald-trump-heres-who-actually-paid-attention-during-the-debate-chicago-tribune\/"},"modified":"2024-07-01T01:32:25","modified_gmt":"2024-07-01T05:32:25","slug":"letters-between-joe-biden-and-donald-trump-heres-who-actually-paid-attention-during-the-debate-chicago-tribune","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/donald-trump\/letters-between-joe-biden-and-donald-trump-heres-who-actually-paid-attention-during-the-debate-chicago-tribune\/","title":{"rendered":"Letters: Between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, here&#8217;s who actually paid attention during the debate &#8211; Chicago Tribune"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    A number of people have expressed concerns about President Joe    Bidens performance during his Thursday presidential debate    with former President Donald Trump. Unfortunately, I think at    least some of them might be letting surface issues (e.g., Biden    initially appearing to lack energy) get in their way of    developing a more accurate and complete perception of Bidens    debate performance.  <\/p>\n<p>    In particular, Biden pretty consistently answered the questions    actually asked by the moderators  arguably an indicator of    cognitive flexibility and adaptiveness  and made a number of    true statements in the process.  <\/p>\n<p>    By contrast, while Trump may have come across to some people as    more polished in his delivery, he frequently didnt answer the    moderators questions, despite the moderators explicitly    prompting him frequently to refocus. Trumps persistence in not    answering the moderators questions and focusing instead on    irrelevant issues may be an indicator of a lack of cognitive    flexibility and adaptiveness. Additionally, Trumps persistence    in making false and misleading statements  repeating familiar    ones while also creating new ones  was on full display.  <\/p>\n<p>    If I had to vote today, I would much rather choose the    candidate who, while perhaps at times appearing less physically    energetic, was able to focus and shift that focus as called for    in the situation  rather than the candidate who, threats    against our democratic republic aside, often seemed unable to    perform those basic cognitive tasks.  <\/p>\n<p>     James Carney, Evanston  <\/p>\n<p>    I am an 85-year-old veteran of the Air Force (1962-65). I am    also a father to three sons and a grandfather of three. I can    confirm that we grandpas have bad days every now and then, and    President Joe Biden just had one.  <\/p>\n<p>    But I also know that for a liar and cheat, every day    is a bad day.  <\/p>\n<p>    My vote for commander in chief is still for honorable servant    Grandpa Joe rather than convicted felon Uncle Donald.  <\/p>\n<p>     Glenn Shipley, Chicago  <\/p>\n<p>    President Joe Biden may not have performed well on this one    debate night, but hes been performing well for the past 3 1\/2    years, adding jobs, kindness and dignity to the Office of the    President of the United States on the world stage. Yes, his    voice was low while Trump boomed his lies. And now, it seems    the Democrats, in their panic, will publicly throw him under    the bus instead of sticking together and having faith in whats    been accomplished.  <\/p>\n<p>    Only Republicans will mystifyingly band together to support of    a convicted felon, a man held liable for sexual abuse, a liar    and a threat to democracy, who ended a two-century run of    peacefully passing on the presidential office with an attack on    the U.S. Capitol and democracy itself.  <\/p>\n<p>    I pray that letter writer Jerry Hanson (There are millions of us,    June 22) is right and there indeed are millions and millions of    us who show up to vote and support our democracy.  <\/p>\n<p>     Sandra Lurie, Highland Park  <\/p>\n<p>    Well, we witnessed the very sorry state that we now find    ourselves in after watching the debate. How can it be that    here in the United States of America, we cannot field a    multiple of extraordinary people who have exceptional    intelligence, integrity and common sense? Do we need to    force-feed a substantial change to our political system and    process? The debate was an extreme embarrassment in front of    the entire world.  <\/p>\n<p>    It was most obvious that President Joe Biden no longer has the    mental acuity to serve our country in any capacity, let alone    the presidency. Former President Donald Trump has proved he no    longer has the level of fear\/respect that he once had on the    world stage. Additionally, at best, he will be only tolerated    by our allies and disregarded by Russian President Vladimir    Putin, Chinese President Xi Jinping and others. While he proved    in his first term that he has an ability to make decisions    beneficial for our country, his lack of credibility renders him    unworthy to hold the office.  <\/p>\n<p>    Why, then, do we have party zealots defending and supporting    these individuals? What is the rationale? Is there no one who    can step up and command respect? Is the political system so    filled with political landmines that taking an opposing    position is too risky for ones political future?  <\/p>\n<p>    Where are the true leaders? Isnt there a multiple of highly    qualified people available? Are there not any true statesmen    and stateswomen with proven ability to be worthy of the office?    Is the system broken? Is it possible that we can find new ways    and means for a nomination process that will provide we the    people with many great candidates whom we could be very proud    of and who would have great respect throughout the world?  <\/p>\n<p>    In the continued absence of having great choices, we will    remain in a very sad state.  <\/p>\n<p>     Dave Roberts, Frankfort  <\/p>\n<p>    Thursday evenings prime TV event was not a debate.    Viewers watched two adversaries positioned in two different    spheres. One, a buffoon, hurled insults and untruths, focused    as always on self-aggrandizement and acting like a spoiled    youngster. The other haltingly and gropingly attempted to    defend his record and preview his future plans for the country.    At least the latter has a laudable record and sound    plans for a second term; good, capable people around him; and a    strong moral compass. The other has a criminal record and no    clearly articulated, reasonable plans for a second term as    president, and a good number of those who surrounded him in his    first term are in jail or under indictment. He has no moral    compass in his personal or public life.  <\/p>\n<p>    For me, the choice in the upcoming election is clear. Televised    political debates should not be the measure by which citizens    weigh their options and cast their votes.  <\/p>\n<p>     Madeleine Felix, Evanston  <\/p>\n<p>    Regarding the editorial As America sank into the couch,    Joe Biden and Donald Trump combined for a depressing farce.    Enough.: I agree it was awful, but the Tribune Editorial    Board continues to do the same thing all major outlets do     give Donald Trump a pass. Sure, the board says slightly    negative things, such as, Trump was mostly just himself,    energetically narcissistic, cavalier with truths, cruel of    tone, bereft of empathy. The editorial board knows thats what    his followers like about him, right?  <\/p>\n<p>    What the editorial board should have said was: Trump was    himself, spewing lie after lie about his administration,    attacking America with falsehoods, making wild, evidence-free    claims about Joe Biden and his supporters and denigrating the    U.S. with every sentence. In short, being the pathological liar    that he is.  <\/p>\n<p>    But major media outlets, including the Tribune, wont tell the    truth about Trump, for whatever reason, and it may lead to the    downfall of our great country.  <\/p>\n<p>     Martin A. Pierce, St. Charles  <\/p>\n<p>    What we witnessed during the first presidential debate was the    erosion of our democracy. President Joe Biden performed    ineptly, and Donald Trump delivered one lie after another. The    lies won out!  <\/p>\n<p>     Sam Solomon, Deerfield  <\/p>\n<p>    Despite a disappointing debate performance, accentuated by a    pronounced feeble manner and weak voice, President Joe Biden    still demonstrated that experience, integrity and a grasp of    issues that affect all Americans eclipse the views of one in    service of himself.  <\/p>\n<p>    Donald Trump was undeniably more vigorous, but vitality alone    is not a measure of reassurance when it comes to protecting the    sovereignty of our nation. Trumps widely known character flaws    usually detract attention from his ignorance about matters    crucial to effective governance. Not this time. His nescience    was on full display.  <\/p>\n<p>    The contrast in competing visions couldnt have been more    clear-cut, but this election isnt just about dissimilar    ideologies. It is about the very survival of the republic. So,    voters must decide if they want an ill-informed president who    favors dismantling the Constitution or one hell-bent on doing    whatever is necessary to protect it.  <\/p>\n<p>     Jim Paladino, Tampa, Florida  <\/p>\n<p>    The Thursday debate between President Joe Biden and Donald    Trump provided new and terrifying insight into Trumps foreign    policy perspectives. He asserted that had he been president    instead of Biden, the wars in Ukraine and Israel would never    have taken place. So how, then, might that have come about?  <\/p>\n<p>    It takes little imagination to see how Trump could have averted    the war in Ukraine: In keeping with his own well-demonstrated    proclivities, once the Russians began with their saber rattling    and their assertions that ethnic Russians in Ukraine were being    abused, Trump most certainly would have made it known to    Ukrainian President VolodymyrZelenskyy that the United    States had no interest in the affairs of his country, nor would    he provide any monetary or military support for his defense    efforts.  <\/p>\n<p>    Under those circumstances, Ukraine might have been able to hold    off the Russian army for a short while, but eventually, Trumps    friend Russian President Vladimir Putin would undoubtedly have    prevailed. Moreover, the United States would have saved    billions of dollars.  <\/p>\n<p>    We have no idea where Putins ambitions might take Russia after    his takeover of Ukraine, perhaps Poland and the Baltic states,    but those countries are members of NATO and are therefore part    of a mutual defense agreement that includes the United States.    That would have provided a perfect time for Trump to move ahead    with his long-held plan to withdraw our country from NATO and    leave Europe to fend for itself.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is still unclear how Trump could have averted the war    between Israel and Hamas. Perhaps he will clarify that one in a    later debate.  <\/p>\n<p>     George Honig, Chicago  <\/p>\n<p>    It is Thursday at 9:21 p.m. while I write this, and I have been    watching the presidential debate from its start. Im    frustrated. One of the contestants is talking policy and    offering provable facts while the other is doing nothing but    complain, even saying that the country is falling apart. And he    has not offered any proven policy statements. Just complaints.  <\/p>\n<p>    Lordy, lordy.  <\/p>\n<p>     Bernard Biernacki, Aurora  <\/p>\n<p>    If the Democrats do as the Tribune Editorial Board is calling    for and replace Joe Biden, they lose incumbency, party cohesion    and the presidency. Chicago is again host to a chaotic    Democratic open convention with no clear leader.  <\/p>\n<p>    Why not call for convicted felon Donald Trump to step down for    the good of the country? You know the answer; he wont.  <\/p>\n<p>    Biden is not incompetent. He will win again. The country will    be led well through 2028, as it has been since 2020. And way    better than a criminal demagogue.  <\/p>\n<p>     Tony Quintanilla, Chicago  <\/p>\n<p>    I am unconcerned about what some think were shortcomings in    President Joe Bidens debate performance that were far more    about presentation than content, the latter being more    important.  <\/p>\n<p>    The presidency is not a no notes job, and one cant repeat    the greatest hits of rally speeches, no matter how    well-rehearsed, for four years and call it governance.  <\/p>\n<p>    Donald Trump, as always, was a walking make-work project for    fact-checkers.  <\/p>\n<p>     Curt Fredrikson, Mokena, Illinois  <\/p>\n<p>    President Joe Biden missed many opportunities to deliver    haymakers against Donald Trump during the debate. Every time    Trump brought up the border, the response should have been that    the bipartisan border deal, championed by conservative Oklahoma    U.S. Sen. James Lankford, was scuttled by MAGA Republicans so    Trump could use it as a campaign issue. When the economy was    the topic, Bidens easy answer was to point out that Trump had    several infrastructure weeks, but the Biden administration    passed an actual infrastructure bill.  <\/p>\n<p>    Trumps contention that somehow we are a failing country is    laughable. All Biden had to ask in return is: If thats true,    why do people from the world over wish to come here? Why do    they send their children here for college?  <\/p>\n<p>    Biden stumbled badly; there is no denying that fact. Because of    that, I believe Trump will cancel the September debate. He    wont need it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Until the debate, I was not overly concerned about Bidens age.    It is now obvious to me that his age will be the focus for    millions of voters.  <\/p>\n<p>    Biden claims to have always put the country first, and his    record of service bears that out.  <\/p>\n<p>    I take no pleasure in saying it, but if that still holds true,    he should withdraw from the race and release his delegates. The    Democratic Party has a strong bench of young, vigorous men and    women, ready to serve.    A brokered convention would be interesting, to say the least,    and it would yield the best candidate to defeat the    authoritarian fascist candidate that is Trump.  <\/p>\n<p>    If the polls are accurate, Biden versus Trump is the contest    most of the country does not want.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is time for the Democrats to prove they are the adults in    the room.  <\/p>\n<p>     Len Levy, Glenview  <\/p>\n<p>    Granted, President Joe Biden was not feeling his best on    Thursday. He had a cold, and hes dealing with major world    issues while trying to make life better for us Americans at the    same time. Hes got a lot on his mind, and he got some    statistics wrong. I have trouble remembering stats, too, so I    try to avoid them.  <\/p>\n<p>    Still, Biden provided many truths over Donald Trumps lies. If    we look beyond his confusion over statistics, Biden still    looked like the better man and the wise elder statesman that he    is.  <\/p>\n<p>     Linda Morton, Harvard  <\/p>\n<p>    JoeBidendoes not need to defeat Donald Trump. The    American people need to defeat Donald Trump.  <\/p>\n<p>     Joe Artabasy, Glencoe  <\/p>\n<p>    As I watched the debate, my heart sank. This president appeared    to be a doddering old man. His rival appeared to be a    blathering liar. What to do? Move to Canada? I hear that they    have great health care!  <\/p>\n<p>    The future looks bleak to this senior citizen.  <\/p>\n<p>     Carole Bogaard, Oak Lawn  <\/p>\n<p>    Note to readers: If you are a cyclist, we    would appreciate knowing your thoughts on the citys bike    infrastructure and your experiences using a bicycle for    transportation, whether positive or negative. Send us a letter    of no more than 400 words to <a href=\"mailto:letters@chicagotribune.com\">letters@chicagotribune.com<\/a>.    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