{"id":1125700,"date":"2024-06-03T20:58:38","date_gmt":"2024-06-04T00:58:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/russia-ukraine-war-negotiating-with-putin-now-is-a-mistake-foreign-policy\/"},"modified":"2024-06-03T20:58:38","modified_gmt":"2024-06-04T00:58:38","slug":"russia-ukraine-war-negotiating-with-putin-now-is-a-mistake-foreign-policy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/putin\/russia-ukraine-war-negotiating-with-putin-now-is-a-mistake-foreign-policy\/","title":{"rendered":"Russia-Ukraine War: Negotiating With Putin Now Is a Mistake &#8211; Foreign Policy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    As the Russian militarys slow advances in Ukraine continue,    calls for talks to end the war have become commonsome made by    well-regarded foreign-policy specialists. Their ideas are    neither prudent nor persuasive, but they should be examined in    good faith rather than dismissed as appeasement.  <\/p>\n<p>    Those urging negotiations rightly note that U.S. assistance to    Ukraine on the level of the latest tranchesome     $61 billion for military, economic, and humanitarian    purposeswill not continue forever. Sending Ukraine another    hefty sum next year will prove an even tougher sell, even if    Joe Biden remains president; and if Donald Trump wins, he may    end support altogether.  <\/p>\n<p>    Still, the most recent U.S. aid package, along with the    military assistance from various European countries, will    enable Ukraine to fight into the next yearnearly half as long    as the war has now lasted. Given this wars twists and turns,    the possibility that Kyiv could use it to rebound, while not    certain, cannot be ruled out.  <\/p>\n<p>    We can predict neither what that length of time will be nor the    difference the newest batch of Western weaponry will make. Yet    its important to keep in mind that it has now begun arriving,    with the     artillery and     long-range version of the Army Tactical Missile System    (ATACMS) already in use.  <\/p>\n<p>    Some claim that the best Ukraine can hope for is a deal that    includes its     partition. Even assuming this prognosis proves true, the    nature and extent of a partition matters: There are worse and    better variants. Ukraines ability to negotiate a postwar    settlement that it can live with depends on its military    performance over the next 18 months or so. In other words,    negotiating from a position of strength matters.  <\/p>\n<p>    Those proposing talks    between Kyiv and Moscow tend to believe that Ukraine cannot    possibly achieve anything resembling victory (such as regaining    large tracts of territory now under Russian occupation); that    the calendar favors Russia; and that Ukraines continued armed    resistance will only produce more death, destruction, and    territorial losses, which it can avert by reaching a    settlementsoon. The war has taken an enormous toll, as I have    seen firsthand during four visits to Ukraine, so the desire to    end it is understandable.  <\/p>\n<p>    Despite their good intentions, the negotiate now camp skirts    a critical question: Who will (or should) initiate the talks?    One possible answer: the United States, Ukraines principal    supplier of weaponryperhaps even over Kyivs head. But theres    virtually no chance of that happening so long as Biden remains    president: Nothing he or members of his foreign-policy and    national security teams have said or done suggests they plan to    strong-arm Kyiv into a settlement with Moscow. The $42 billion    in military assistancepart of the latest installment of    American aidis meant to keep Ukraine in the fight and will,    into 2025, even if Trump wins in November.  <\/p>\n<p>    Perhaps those advocating negotiations expect that Kyiv will    conclude that continuing to fight will produce an even worse    outcome and, moved by that logic, seek a compromise with    Moscow. But Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky hasnt    indicated the slightest inclination to take this stepnot since        the failure of the talks held in Belarus and Turkey soon    after the invasion.  <\/p>\n<p>    His goal remains retaking all lands lost to Russia since    2014Crimea included. This objective isnt written in stone and    could change if the facts on the ground do, but so far it has    not. One can dismiss it as outlandish, but what matters is that    it persists.  <\/p>\n<p>    Maybe those who recommend negotiations anticipate that    Ukrainians war weariness will impel Zelensky to bargain with    Russia. Thats possible, but for now Ukraines citizenry    opposes a deal with Moscow at least as much as its leaders    doits common to be told by ordinary Ukrainians that Russian    President Vladimir Putin cant be trusted to honor the terms of    a settlement. As proof, many point to the 1994     Budapest Memorandum, which included a pledge by Russia, one    of the signatories, to respect Ukraines borders.  <\/p>\n<p>    I have repeatedly asked various Ukrainiansbartenders and hotel    clerks, former and current officials, soldiers on the front    lineswhether the war had produced privations that were so    painful that they had concluded, reluctantly, that it was time    for a settlement with Russia.  <\/p>\n<p>    Not one person said yes. Indeed, the greater the firepower    Putin directs at Ukraine, the greater Ukrainians hatred of    Russia becomes, and with it their resolve to keep resisting.    Yes, there is draft evasion in Ukrainesome of it owes to the    monthslong but now-resolved uncertainty about future U.S.    military aid and the Ukrainian militarys subsequent shortage    of critical equipmentbut society at large isnt ready to throw    in the towel.  <\/p>\n<p>    The proponents of a    deal with Putin seem confident that they can divine the    wars denouement: a Russian victorysay control of Donbas,    Kherson, and Zaporizhzhiaand Ukraines subordination. Yet such    surefire assertions lack an evidentiary foundation. No one can    be sure how this war will end, and forecasters should be    humbler given that just about every prediction thus far has    proved to be incorrect.  <\/p>\n<p>    Consider some examples.  <\/p>\n<p>    U.S. Gen. Mark Milley, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of    Staff,     anticipated some three weeks before the invasion that    Putins army would capture Kyiv within 72 hoursonly to claim        a year later that Russia had lost strategically,    operationally, and tactically. Both claims missed the mark.  <\/p>\n<p>    Early in the war, it was common to hear that Ukraine lacked the    muscle to reclaim the areas the Russians had overrun by    mid-2022. By years end, however, Ukrainian forces had expelled    them from the north and northeast and in the south from the    right bank of the Dnipro in Kherson province, regaining in all        more than half the territory it had lost since the war    began.  <\/p>\n<p>    The failure of Ukraines summer-fall 2023 counteroffensive    seemed to vindicate the prophets of doom, but Russias net    gains last fall amounted to     188 square miles, just over half the land area of New York    City.  <\/p>\n<p>    Last October, a small band of Ukrainian marines forded the    Dnipro River and created a bridgehead at Krynky, on its    Russian-controlled bank, in Kherson province. The New York    Times reported that one of them called the operation a    suicide    mission. The Times painted a pessimistic picture.    Yet the Ukrainians expanded that foothold. Repeated Russian    attempts to storm it failed and led to     significant casualties and equipment losses and criticism    from pro-war military bloggers in Russia. Two Russian generals    were replacedone    soon after the Ukrainians ensconced themselves in Krynky,        the other, amid mounting losses, in mid-April. The    Ukrainians did evacuate Krynky that month but dug in     elsewhere on the rivers Russian-held left bank.  <\/p>\n<p>    But wait, some might say: Ukraine has been in deep trouble    since Russia, having     captured Avdiivka this February, has continued pushing    westwardand now threatens    areas north and northeast of Kharkiv city. But these successes    owe to Ukraines monthslong, dire shortage of equipmentabove    all artillery. Russia had a 5:1 advantage in artillery shells    by March, and Gen. Christopher Cavoli, head of U.S. European    Command,     warned the following month that the margin of Russias    superiority could double in a matter of weeks.  <\/p>\n<p>    That has happened in some places, and Ukrainian soldiers have    struggled to hold their ground, let alone counterattack,    especially because the Russians vastly outnumber them.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet there has been nothing resembling a collapse of Ukraines    front line or large-scale Russian breakthroughs. The    speculation that Russia might retake Kharkiv citywhich lies    just over 30 miles from the Russian borderdoesnt take into    account that Kharkiv, Ukraines second-largest city,    encompasses 135 square miles. In the adjacent    provincesBelgorod, Bryansk, and KurskRussia has amassed    some 30,000 troops; but it would need a substantially larger    force to control Kharkiv, which has a population of 1.4    million. Plus, urban warfare, a particularly bloody business,    gives defenders all manner of advantages over attacking    infantry.  <\/p>\n<p>    The calls for peace talks have another defect. They enumerate    the problems faced by Ukraines armed forcesthere are plenty    to point tobut omit any mention of Russias, which I have    discussed     elsewhere.  <\/p>\n<p>    Geolocated data show that Russa has lost     nearly 16,000 pieces of equipment, including more than    3,000 tanks as well as over 5,000 armored personnel carriers,    armored fighting vehicles, and infantry fighting vehicles.    Plus,     a third of its Black Sea Fleets ships and submarines have    been damaged or destroyed. Theres been much debate about    casualty figures in this war. The U.K.     Ministry of Defense reckons that Russias total is 465,000    dead and injured soldiers. Yet even if the true number is only    one-third of that, Russias losses, against a far weaker    adversary, have still been substantial.  <\/p>\n<p>    Does it follow that Ukraine lacks serious problems and will    surely win? No and no. It does mean, though, that confident,    linear projections declaring that Russia has become a    juggernaut and that Ukraine should therefore sue for peace soon    are questionable.  <\/p>\n<p>    A major flaw in the pro-negotiation camps reasoning is the    proposed timing. Many proponents of peace talks want them to    begin soon, some as early as     this summerabout a month from now. But the United States    and its European allies have just started delivering tens of    billions of dollars worth of armaments to Ukraine and wont be    finished by the beginning of fall. It would be foolish to rush    into negotiations before seeing what difference the infusion of    additional weaponry will make, whether Russias military can    sustain its current tempo once Ukraine has more firepower, and    how successful Ukraines draft proves to be.  <\/p>\n<p>    If Ukraine, bolstered by additional troops and weaponry, claws    back more territoryeven if the gains fall well short of    Zelenskys ambitious aimsand Putin realizes that his army    wont be able to make additional gains, Ukraine will have    greater leverage than it does now to shape a political    settlement.  <\/p>\n<p>    Theres another problem with the calls for negotiations: They    assume that Putin wants them. But does he? Russias defense    budget increased by almost     70 percent this year. As a proportion of Russian GDP it    will reach     6 percent, compared to     3.9 percent last year. Nearly     a third of the federal budget will support defense    spending, compared to     16 percent in 2023. These arent the actions of a leader    eager to negotiate.  <\/p>\n<p>    And nothing Putin has said suggests otherwise. Last December,    at his customary year-end marathon news conference during which    he fielded questions from the media and the Russian public,        he stated that the mission of the special military    operationMoscow has since begun to call it     a warremained unchanged: Ukraines de-Nazification,    demilitarization, and neutrality, meaning ending its quest to    enter NATO.  <\/p>\n<p>    In September 2022, following a     bogus referendum, Putin     announced that four Ukrainian provincesDonetsk, Luhansk,    Kherson, and Zaporizhzhiawere irrevocably part of the Russian    Federation. That remains unfinished business; only Luhansk is    more or less fully under Russian control.  <\/p>\n<p>    Bearing in mind the hazards of    prediction, and assuming that Zelenskys goals could    prove unattainable, one can envision this war ending in at    least one of three ways.  <\/p>\n<p>    1. The Russian military takes even more land, the West succumbs    to Ukraine fatigue, and Putin imposes a punitive peace on Kyiv:    Parts of Ukraine become Russian territory, and the remainder,    while retaining independence, reenters Moscows orbit.  <\/p>\n<p>    2. Despite intense efforts, Russia controls less Ukrainian    territory than it does now, Putin recognizes that his army    cannot do any better and may lose more land, a political    settlement follows, and Ukraine eventually joins the EU and    NATO, with the proviso that Kyiv will not permit NATO bases or    the permanent presence of foreign troops on its soil.  <\/p>\n<p>    3. The war becomes a stalemate, which both adversaries conclude    cannot be broken, but Putin has enough leverage to ensure    Ukraines neutrality. Kyiv uses its own bargaining power to    insist on armed neutrality, which would give it the freedom to    train its armed forces in Western countries, equip its army    with Western weaponry, and thus remain outside Russias sphere    of influence.  <\/p>\n<p>    While other scenarios are certainly possible, these, save the    first, share a commonality: They require that Ukraine boost its    bargaining power by ending Russias momentum, mounting its own    counteroffensive, and retaking more territory.  <\/p>\n<p>    This will require time, which Ukraine now has: Western arms    have just started reaching the front, and their volume will    increase in the coming months. Russia and Ukraine may    eventually hold talks on a political settlement. But now is not    the time to initiate them.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to read the rest: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/foreignpolicy.com\/2024\/06\/03\/russia-ukraine-peace-kharkiv-zelensky-putin-negotiate\" title=\"Russia-Ukraine War: Negotiating With Putin Now Is a Mistake - Foreign Policy\">Russia-Ukraine War: Negotiating With Putin Now Is a Mistake - Foreign Policy<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> As the Russian militarys slow advances in Ukraine continue, calls for talks to end the war have become commonsome made by well-regarded foreign-policy specialists. Their ideas are neither prudent nor persuasive, but they should be examined in good faith rather than dismissed as appeasement. 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