{"id":1124510,"date":"2024-04-29T11:28:25","date_gmt":"2024-04-29T15:28:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/the-supreme-court-appears-poised-to-protect-the-presidencyand-donald-trump-the-new-yorker\/"},"modified":"2024-04-29T11:28:25","modified_gmt":"2024-04-29T15:28:25","slug":"the-supreme-court-appears-poised-to-protect-the-presidencyand-donald-trump-the-new-yorker","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/donald-trump\/the-supreme-court-appears-poised-to-protect-the-presidencyand-donald-trump-the-new-yorker\/","title":{"rendered":"The Supreme Court Appears Poised to Protect the Presidencyand Donald Trump &#8211; The New Yorker"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    At a quarter to ten on Thursday morning at the Supreme Court of    the United States, the current and several former U.S.    Solicitors General milled about in the well between the    counsels tables and the front rows, shaking hands with    attorneys who were about to make oral arguments and chatting    with veteran reporters who have covered the Court for decades.    Special Counsel Jack Smith came in and took his seat. A U.S.    marshal sternly shushed some prominent figures, and they went    silent.  <\/p>\n<p>    It was the third argument before the Court in three months    related to Donald Trumps attempt to overturn his loss of the    2020 Presidential election. This one (Trump v. U.S.) was about    his claim that Smiths prosecution of him for election    interference (U.S. v. Trump) must be dismissed because a former    President is immune from criminal liability for any official    acts he undertook in office. When the Justices took the bench    at 10 A.M. and looked out at the    not-quite-full courtroom, their grumpy countenances seemed to    reflect the Trump fatigue that many Americans are feeling.  <\/p>\n<p>    As the Justices ground through nearly three hours of arguments,    my mind went into split-screen mode: the gray decorum of    constitutional debate over executive power in Washington, D.C.,    and the sordid vividness of Trumps criminal trial about hush    money happening at the same time in New York City. Trump    himself was not at the Supreme Court hearing, because he had to    be present as a defendant in a gritty lower Manhattan criminal    courtroom, where David Pecker, the former publisher of the    National Enquirer, was testifying that, in order to    aid Trumps 2016 campaign, he paid a hundred and fifty thousand    dollars for a Playboy models story about having sex    with Trump, with no intent to publish it, and sought    reimbursement from Trump. The contrast between the two    proceedings could not have better underscored the distinction    that the Justices were puzzling through that day: between the    person who is President and the institution of the Presidency.  <\/p>\n<p>    Without Presidential immunity from criminal prosecution, there    can be no Presidency as we know it, Trumps lawyer John Sauer    began. His brief argued that a denial of criminal immunity    would incapacitate every future President with de    facto blackmail and extortion while in office, and condemn    him to years of post-office trauma at the hands of political    opponents. The rhetoric was histrionic, but every Justice    seemed to take seriously the concern that a sitting Presidents    worry about future personal liability would impair his ability    to fulfill his constitutional duties. This concern led the    Supreme Court, in 1982, to hold that a President is forever and    absolutely immune from civil-damages lawsuits for any official    act he undertakes as President. The Department of Justice has    also long taken the view that the President cannot be    criminally prosecuted for federal crimes while he is in office,    though it has assumed that he is not entirely immune from    prosecution once he leaves office.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the current case, Trump asserts that the same concerns that    warrant a Presidents absolute immunity from civil-damages    lawsuits for his official acts also warrant absolute criminal    immunity for his official acts. The government points out that,    though the likelihood of a former President being attacked with    myriad civil lawsuits justifies blanket immunity, the risk of    unjustified criminal prosecutions by the Department of Justice    is not so worrisome, because federal prosecutors are regulated    by legal and ethical norms that serve as sufficient safeguards.    Justice Alito, who noted that he served in the Justice    Department for a long time, was skeptical that it was enough    to protect former Presidents.  <\/p>\n<p>    Michael Dreeben, arguing for the government, said, The Framers    knew too well the dangers of a king who could do no wrong. To    that point, Justice Elena Kagan asked Sauer whether a President    who ordered the military to stage a coup would be immune from    prosecution. After an uncomfortable beat of silence, he    answered, I think it would depend on the circumstances whether    it was an official act. When Kagan flatly asked, Is it an    official act? he said that it could well be, but that it    would depend on the specific facts and context.  <\/p>\n<p>    Although at first blush there appeared to be an enormous gulf    between Trumps position and that of the Justice Department, it    turned out to be not as wide as all that. Both sides clearly    agree that a former President can be prosecuted for his    unofficial or personal acts. Trump even admits that some of the    conduct that Smith alleged in the indictment, such as    conspiring with private attorneys to create fraudulent slates    of electors, are unofficial actsmeaning that if Smith decided    to pursue only those allegations, Trump would claim no    immunity. Moreover, the government agrees with Trump that some    official acts are in the core of power that the Constitution    exclusively assigns to the President, such as the pardon    power, the power to recognize foreign nations, the power to    veto legislation, the power to make appointments, and that    Congress cannot regulate them at allmeaning that it would be    unconstitutional to prosecute the President under federal    criminal statutes that interfere with that power.  <\/p>\n<p>    The dispute that remains concerns the Presidents official acts    that fall outside that core of exclusive Presidential power;    Trump argues that those acts are criminally immune; the    government, that they are not. Given the concerns the Justices    displayed in their questioning, and the Justice Departments    own moderate position, the Justices are likely to put some    limits on the ability to prosecute a former President. The    Courts ruling will make little practical difference for    Smiths prosecution of Trump, because the chances of a trial    being completed by the November election even in the most    expedited scenarios are slim. Smiths best hope, though, may be    to move forward quickly with allegations that both sides agree    involve Trumps unofficial acts.  <\/p>\n<p>    One clue that the Justices are going to take their time and    resist the pressure of the election schedule was that, during    the hours of oral argument, none of them uttered the name    Trump. His name was mentioned exactly once by Sauer, and by    Dreeben only in reference to a case called Trump v. Hawaii.    Sauers opening statement named George W. Bush, Barack Obama,    and Joe Biden, but not Trump. And discussions of the President    tended to default to a President in the abstract, a    hypothetical President, or multiple former Presidents other    than Trump. It was as if there were an unspoken understanding    about He who must not be named.  <\/p>\n<p>    A further clue that the Court will not coperate with any plans    to get this prosecution resolved before November was the    conservative Justices insistence that Trump (again, not named)    was not their concern. Justice Alito: I want to talk about    this in the abstract because what is before us, of course, does    involve this particular case, which is immensely important, but    whatever we decide is going to apply to all future Presidents.    Justice Gorsuch: Im not concerned about this case, but I am    concerned about future uses of the criminal law to target    political opponents. Justice Kavanaugh: Like Justice Gorsuch,    Im not focussed on the here and now of this case. Im very    concerned about the future.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/news\/our-columnists\/the-supreme-court-appears-poised-to-protect-the-presidency-and-donald-trump\" title=\"The Supreme Court Appears Poised to Protect the Presidencyand Donald Trump - The New Yorker\">The Supreme Court Appears Poised to Protect the Presidencyand Donald Trump - The New Yorker<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> At a quarter to ten on Thursday morning at the Supreme Court of the United States, the current and several former U.S. Solicitors General milled about in the well between the counsels tables and the front rows, shaking hands with attorneys who were about to make oral arguments and chatting with veteran reporters who have covered the Court for decades. Special Counsel Jack Smith came in and took his seat.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/donald-trump\/the-supreme-court-appears-poised-to-protect-the-presidencyand-donald-trump-the-new-yorker\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[257675],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1124510","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-donald-trump"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1124510"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1124510"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1124510\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1124510"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1124510"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1124510"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}