{"id":1124369,"date":"2024-04-27T12:10:28","date_gmt":"2024-04-27T16:10:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/is-a-330000-liberal-arts-education-still-worth-it-los-angeles-loyolan\/"},"modified":"2024-04-27T12:10:28","modified_gmt":"2024-04-27T16:10:28","slug":"is-a-330000-liberal-arts-education-still-worth-it-los-angeles-loyolan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/liberal\/is-a-330000-liberal-arts-education-still-worth-it-los-angeles-loyolan\/","title":{"rendered":"Is a $330000 liberal arts education still &#8216;worth it?&#8217; &#8211; Los Angeles Loyolan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Considering the rising cost of tuition at LMU and other universities nationwide  coupled    with the relatively low wages that students pursuing a degree    in the liberal arts receive post-graduation  begs the    question: is pursuing a degree in the liberal arts \"worth it?\"  <\/p>\n<p>    The short answer: its complicated.  <\/p>\n<p>    The 2023-24 cost of undergraduate on-campus attendance was    $84,132, according to    previous Loyolan reporting on the estimated cost of attendance.    Based on this figure, four years of undergraduate education at    LMU  without any financial aid or scholarships  will be    approximately $336,528.  <\/p>\n<p>    The 2,127 students currently pursuing a degree    in the liberal arts at LMU are on track to make less money than    that of their peers pursuing a career in STEM fields, according    to LMU's page on College    Scorecard, a U.S. Department of Education platform that    allows people to compare university outcomes.  <\/p>\n<p>    According to College Scorecard, a student at LMU pursuing a    bachelors degree in accounting and related services  which    is a major in the College of Business Administration (CBA)     is estimated to make a median annual income of $91,902 within    four years of graduating. On the other hand, students who    receive a bachelors degree in political science and    government  which is a major in the Bellarmine    College of Liberal Arts (BCLA)  are estimated to make a    median annual income of $57,686 within four years of graduating    from LMU.  <\/p>\n<p>    A study done by the Public Policy Institute of California in    2023 found that someone with a bachelors degree earned 62%    more than someone with a high school level of education.  <\/p>\n<p>    We know that if you have a college degree, and if you apply    yourself in college and have a few internship experiences,    regardless of your major  you will substantially have a higher    income in life, said incoming BCLA Dean Richard Fox Ph.D., associate    chair of political science.  <\/p>\n<p>    Some advocates of the liberal arts say the beauty of a liberal    arts education is that it doesnt prepare you for one specific    thing,specified Graham Beattie, Ph.D.,    associate professor and associate chair of economics. In some    ways that can be advantageous. Why do you get a liberal arts    degree? It's because you're prepared for anything.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Having a degree in a liberal arts field could offer career    flexibility that is not always available to someone pursuing a    degree in a specific field despite those people making more    money post-graduation.  <\/p>\n<p>    People from liberal arts degrees work pretty evenly across the    economy, said Beattie. I can steer myself over time into    wherever is good for what I'm interested in  in my    geographical area [and at a] particular time. Whereas someone    with a very specific qualification-oriented degree wouldn't    have that ability.  <\/p>\n<p>    Arik Greenberg, Ph.D., professor in    interreligious dialogue, believes that while an education is    highly valuable in todays world, he doubts if the cost of    education is justified.  <\/p>\n<p>    Education is always a good thing, but is the cost justifying    the education? asked Greenberg. [If it costs $336,528] for an    undergraduate higher education, is that worth what you're going    to [make] when you get out of this degree program? I would say    it's highly questionable.  <\/p>\n<p>    Greenberg recalls his time in graduate school and working in    construction, maintenance and janitorial services to foot the    bill of his education. He says if he had pursued a career in    plumbing or electrical he would be making a better living    than he is right now, as a non-tenured professor at    LMU.  <\/p>\n<p>    I know I would not be happy doing that because I'm an    activist; I'm a public intellectual; I want to have an impact    on society and on young minds. That's my life's dream; that's    my life's goal. I would not be happy just turning a wrench or    swinging a hammer, said Greenberg.  <\/p>\n<p>    Mia Gutierrez, a sophomore political science major, says she    feels like she needs to stay on a career path that will make    her money, despite having interest in exploring other areas of    political science that may pay less.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think that the tuition is getting out of hand [given] the    workforce, especially because of how difficult it is to get a    job, said Gutierrez. I feel like I have to stick to the path    where I make the most money  I need a job where I can pay off    my college loans.  <\/p>\n<p>    Despite projected low post-graduation wages for students    pursuing a liberal arts degree, the demand for college has not    decreased dramatically,    meaning colleges can continue to raise prices without fear    oflower enrollment.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, why can colleges continue to charge as much as    theydo?  <\/p>\n<p>    College, particularly at a private institution like LMU, is    expensive for a number of reasons. College is a    labor-intensive production process, according to Beattie.    Particularly at a school like LMU where class sizes are small,    the amount of faculty that need to be hired in order to offer    the education that LMU offers is quite high.  <\/p>\n<p>    According to previous Loyolan reporting, $261 million of    LMUs total expenses was dedicated to salaries,    othercompensation [and] employee benefits in the 2022    fiscal year.  <\/p>\n<p>          A 2023 studydone by the          Public Policy Institute of Californiafound that          someone with a bachelors degree earned 62% more than          someone with a high school level of education.        <\/p>\n<p>    Beattie also highlights that there is a competition between    universities to offer a quality experience to their students,    through a nice campus and facilities.  <\/p>\n<p>    If you think of what you are buying with your tuition, you're    buying a bundle of things. You're buying a lot of faculty hours     which are expensive  staff hours, which are generally not as    expensive but still a lot of labor, and then you're buying    access to this campus, which is [the] fanciest place in a high    real estate cost area, said Beattie.  <\/p>\n<p>    Both Beattie and Greenberg agree that students pursuing a    degree at a liberal arts institution should be aware of the    potential economic trade-offs that come with pursuing a liberal    arts degree, but it should not deter anyone from that path.  <\/p>\n<p>    If you want to do a liberal arts degree, go ahead and do a    liberal arts degree, as long as you are not going into it    misinformed about economics, said Beattie. If you go into it    saying, 'Yes, I know this isn't the highest return, but this is    still what I want to do,' then who is anyone to tell you that's    not something you should do?  <\/p>\n<p>    When Greenbergs students approach him about going into a    career in academia, he wants them to consider if it is the only    thing they could possibly be happy doing as a career, due to    the low salaries many non-tenured professors receive.  <\/p>\n<p>    I don't want to dissuade students from going into higher    education, but I want them to go into it with their eyes fully    open to the risks and the fact that they may take a decade    before they ever even get gainful employment, said Greenberg.  <\/p>\n<p>    Greenberg and Fox believe that education  particularly a    liberal arts education  creates critical thinkers that bring    immense value to not only their careers but to the world around    them.  <\/p>\n<p>    We see all these studies increasing saying they are looking    for people who can think. I can teach anyone to code, but I    need someone who can think creatively and critically, said    Fox. I still firmly believe that students should pursue what    excites them to do, and if they do that ... it will work out    for them.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think all education is valuable, said Greenberg. I'd do it    all over again, because I think education makes a more    well-rounded, educated and involved [population].  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original post: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.laloyolan.com\/news\/is-a-330-000-liberal-arts-education-still-worth-it\/article_a5ec50ee-ac89-5a87-b3ff-129e8d3619dc.html\" title=\"Is a $330000 liberal arts education still 'worth it?' - Los Angeles Loyolan\">Is a $330000 liberal arts education still 'worth it?' - Los Angeles Loyolan<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Considering the rising cost of tuition at LMU and other universities nationwide coupled with the relatively low wages that students pursuing a degree in the liberal arts receive post-graduation begs the question: is pursuing a degree in the liberal arts \"worth it?\" The short answer: its complicated. 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