{"id":1124248,"date":"2024-04-24T10:38:49","date_gmt":"2024-04-24T14:38:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/french-bank-to-close-dozens-of-britons-accounts-citing-brexit-the-connexion\/"},"modified":"2024-04-24T10:38:49","modified_gmt":"2024-04-24T14:38:49","slug":"french-bank-to-close-dozens-of-britons-accounts-citing-brexit-the-connexion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/brexit\/french-bank-to-close-dozens-of-britons-accounts-citing-brexit-the-connexion\/","title":{"rendered":"French bank to close dozens of Britons&#8217; accounts citing Brexit &#8211; The Connexion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    A leading French bank has sent letters to at least 60 British    clients in the last few months announcing out of the blue that    it is closing their accounts.  <\/p>\n<p>    Brexit makes the rules complicated, it says.  <\/p>\n<p>    The local Crdit Agricole accounts are those of UK residents    with second homes in west France.  <\/p>\n<p>    The letters, written in English, warn of closure with 60 days    notice.  <\/p>\n<p>    They demand that bank cards and cheque books are returned and    warn that any overdrafts must be paid off by the closure    deadline.  <\/p>\n<p>    The bank says this concerns accounts that are rarely used but    affected readers told us their accounts are in regular use, and    necessary, to pay bills relating to their French    properties.  <\/p>\n<p>    In one case a wifes account is being closed while her    husbands with a larger balance is not. Both are used for    paying utilities, taxes, and expenses such as repairs and    gardening.  <\/p>\n<p>    The letters are mainly coming from the headquarters of the    banks Nord Midi-Pyrnes caisse, which covers Lot, Tarn,    Aveyron and Tarn-et-Garonne, although a similar letter was    received last year in Pas-de-Calais.  <\/p>\n<p>    In that case, the reader complained and was able to remain a    client.  <\/p>\n<p>    Crdit Agricole Nord Midi-Pyrnes told The Connexion the    closures were partly due to complications linked to the UK    leaving the EU, and also strict anti-money laundering rules    which state that it must know each client, which is harder    when they are abroad.  <\/p>\n<p>    Read more:     Can you open a bank account in France without a local    address?  <\/p>\n<p>    The letters formal tone added upset.  <\/p>\n<p>    Retired headteacher Michel Taylor, 78, who has a home in    Aveyron, said his wife, 83, was devastated to receive a    letter of closure.  <\/p>\n<p>    It was a very legalistic letter. The account has been solvent    for 30 years, it is crazy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Maybe there are some dodgy accounts but not those of ageing    foreign couples like us paying our bills at the right time. We    have made transfers to keep it topped up regularly.  <\/p>\n<p>    An adviser at Britline, an online English-speaking service run    by the Normandy caisse, told him his account may have been    kept as its balance was higher than his wifes.  <\/p>\n<p>    A spokesman for the Crdit Agricole group said there is no    overall policy on UK residents.  <\/p>\n<p>    Retired lawyer Jeremy Strachan, 79, who has been a Crdit    Agricole client in the Lot for 25 years, said: I have been    told informally by the person I dealt with at the bank that    many people are in this position.  <\/p>\n<p>    The original email, in English, gave notice of termination    with no explanation and with threats that I must remove my    money quickly. It was unpleasant.  <\/p>\n<p>    In England, banks can only terminate an account without    justification if they suspect it is involved in money    laundering. For a major bank to behave this way is pretty poor.  <\/p>\n<p>    They suggested I move to Britline. One arm [of Crdit    Agricole] was implying I was a crook by terminating the account    inexplicably, while another arm welcomed me.  <\/p>\n<p>    The    Connexion has seen two of the letters, which state: Due    to the general conditions of our account agreement, we wish to    end our business relationship with you.  <\/p>\n<p>    Customers were asked to stop transactions on the account and    told to send a copy of their passport and a request for the    funds to be transferred to another bank account.  <\/p>\n<p>    Any overdraft would also have to be repaid by the deadline, or    legal action would ensue, the letters warned.  <\/p>\n<p>    Read more:     Seven ways to save on French bank charges  <\/p>\n<p>    David Sword, 69, who has had a second home and bank account in    Lot since 1994, said he was not given a specific reason despite    inquiries.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, he was sent a follow-up message saying the decision    does not call into question the quality of our interactions    (ie. it was not his fault).  <\/p>\n<p>    Mr Sword, a retired local government worker, said the original    letter was sent to his wife  it is a joint account.  <\/p>\n<p>    It seemed to imply it had been overdrawn. The wording was    blunt and made us think we had done something to break the    contract.  <\/p>\n<p>    He added: My local branch has always been fabulous. Our    contact says he has had a lot of Britons ringing him.  <\/p>\n<p>    He said Britline appeared quite attractive as he did not need    to be in France to open an account but its website said a    deposit of 3,000 was required, which made him hesitant.  <\/p>\n<p>    A spokesman for Crdit Nord Midi-Pyrnes said there had been    about 60 closures.  <\/p>\n<p>    They were linked to the complexities in dealing with UK-based    clients post-Brexit, plus regulations imposed about information    they must seek from clients to fight money laundering, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    This especially affects accounts that are dormant or    infrequently used, he said, and where it is hard to stay in    close contact with customers who are abroad.  <\/p>\n<p>    We are obliged to run checks on how the account is running and    when the client is abroad, it adds to the complications.  <\/p>\n<p>    There is a permanent, ongoing reinforcement of the    regulations. As fraudsters find new loopholes, new regulations    come out.  <\/p>\n<p>    The closure letters must respect a certain format, regardless    of the reason for the closure, he said. The regional head    office has now been phoning those concerned.  <\/p>\n<p>    Normally, we would aim to warn the customer before the letter    arrives.  <\/p>\n<p>    While the recent decisions affect French accounts of UK    residents with French second homes, French-resident Britons    with UK accounts have also faced Brexit-related closures.  <\/p>\n<p>    Barclays Bank, for example, announced last year it was closing    all such accounts.  <\/p>\n<p>    Read more:     Ex-Barclays customer in France struggles to transfer funds  <\/p>\n<p>    Britline said its service, with mostly British advisers, is    used to dealing with regulations that affect Britons so it does    not refuse clients linked to the complex rules.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is part of Crdit Agricole Normandie, covering Manche,    Calvados and Orne.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its head Eric Morvan said they have taken on a limited number    of people following account closures elsewhere.  <\/p>\n<p>    Last year, UK-resident account holders in Normandy, other than    French expatriates, were moved automatically to Britline, with    several saying the decision came as a surprise. Britline said    this was not Brexit-related.  <\/p>\n<p>    Britline customers are satisfied with the quality of service,    so we thought it was better to ask our teams to look after    them, rather than having customers spread out across local    branches.  <\/p>\n<p>    He said there is no longer a systematic requirement for a set    sum to open an account but requirements vary case by case.  <\/p>\n<p>    While the service is online-only, customers can use day-to-day    services such as cash machines at high street banks and    everyone has a dedicated adviser.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the coming weeks, they will offer webcam consultations, Mr    Morvan said. If an issue is complex  for example, relating to    inheritance  we can do three-way consultations with experts at    our headquarters.  <\/p>\n<p>    Several members of The Connexions subscribers Facebook    group recently gave positive feedback on the service.  <\/p>\n<p>    Read more:     Telecom firms, utilities: which offer English language services    in France?  <\/p>\n<p>    French law allows banks to close accounts without giving a    reason, with 60 days notice.  <\/p>\n<p>    It requires them to check that movements of funds are not    related to money laundering or terrorism.  <\/p>\n<p>    Banks can ask the reasons for any transactions, as well as    general questions about customers financial resources and    wealth.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the latter case, they should say why this is being asked. If    clients refuse it can result in account closure.  <\/p>\n<p>    Patrick Sourdin, general secretary of banking consumer body    France Conso Banque, said: Banks dont communicate much on the    subject of closures, or sometimes give false reasons.  <\/p>\n<p>    It has been increasing since the 2015 terror attacks and even    more since the war in Ukraine.  <\/p>\n<p>    The banks dont say so clearly, but we think this is also to    some extent a way for them to sift out customers that arent    profitable enough.  <\/p>\n<p>    He added: We advise opening an account with another bank as    soon as possible, as account-closing banks rarely change their    mind.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Original post:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.connexionfrance.com\/news\/french-bank-to-close-dozens-of-britons-accounts-citing-brexit\/654164\" title=\"French bank to close dozens of Britons' accounts citing Brexit - The Connexion\">French bank to close dozens of Britons' accounts citing Brexit - The Connexion<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> A leading French bank has sent letters to at least 60 British clients in the last few months announcing out of the blue that it is closing their accounts. Brexit makes the rules complicated, it says. 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