{"id":1123423,"date":"2024-03-29T02:45:35","date_gmt":"2024-03-29T06:45:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/more-on-coercion-social-media-and-freedom-of-speech-rejoinder-to-philip-hamburger-reason\/"},"modified":"2024-03-29T02:45:35","modified_gmt":"2024-03-29T06:45:35","slug":"more-on-coercion-social-media-and-freedom-of-speech-rejoinder-to-philip-hamburger-reason","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/free-speech\/more-on-coercion-social-media-and-freedom-of-speech-rejoinder-to-philip-hamburger-reason\/","title":{"rendered":"More on Coercion, Social Media, and Freedom of Speech: Rejoinder to Philip Hamburger &#8211; Reason"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Professor Philip Hamburger has posted     a response to     my critique of     his post on the social media free speech cases currently    before the Supreme Court. The latter, in turn, responded to        my earlier argument that courts should focus on coercion in    Murthy v. Missouri. For those keeping track, this is    now the fifth post in this series.  <\/p>\n<p>    In his     latest post, Prof. Hamburger accuses me of repeating my    \"errors.\" But I remain unrepentant. It is in fact Hamburger    himself who has doubled down on his mistakes.  <\/p>\n<p>    Most notably, he continues to neglect the significance of the    fact that the First Amendment protects \"freedom of    speech.\" By its very nature, freedom is voluntary choice.    Therefore, it cannot be restricted in the absence of some kind    of coercion. That's true even if Prof. Hamburger is right (as    he surely is) to describe the Free Speech Clause of the First    Amendment as a \"limit on government.\" The limit it imposes on    government is preventing it from using compulsion to restrict    speech. By contrast, it does not prevent the government from    using persuasion to influence private speech, or from engaging    in coordination with private speakers.  <\/p>\n<p>    Prof. Hamburger continues to emphasize the fact that the First    Amendment bans \"abridging\" of freedom of speech, as opposed to    the ban on \"prohibiting\" freedom of religion. I agree this    means free speech gets somewhat greater protection than    religious freedom does. But the thing that it is protected    against must still be some form of compulsion. Absent    compulsion, there can be no restriction of freedom. the    distinction in wording just means that relatively mild forms of    coercion that may not rise to the level of \"prohibition\" might    still qualify as \"abridgement.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Hamburger claims my view would allow the government to \"buy    off\" its critics. But conditioning government benefits on the    exercise of constitutional rights (or refraining from    exercising them) raises other constitutional problems. Among    other things, it implicates the doctrine of     \"unconstitutional conditions,\" which prevents the    government (at least in many instances) from discriminating on    the basis of speech with respect to the distribution of    government benefits. Thus, for example, the government cannot    adopt a law restricting Social Security benefits to people who    express support for the Democratic Party, or at least    refraining from criticizing it. Activities like persuasion or    \"jawboning\" do not qualify as such discrimination.  <\/p>\n<p>    Prof. Hamburger also doubles down on the dubious claim that    social media platforms don't have free speech rights over the    material they post on their websites. But, as discussed in        my previous post, platforms do in fact exercise editorial    control over what speech they allow on their sites, through    their terms of service. In that respect, they are similar to    media entities like Reason or the New York    Times.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hamburger responds that the platforms sometimes took down    speech even without changing their terms of service. But he is    missing the point. The existence of terms of service with    substantive limitations on the types of speech platforms allow    on the site shows that it is not the case that they are \"public    squares\" where anyone can say whatever they want. Rather, they    are private property where the owners exercise editorial    control over speech. They can do that through terms of service.    But, unless prohibited by freely undertaken contractual    obligations, they can also do that in other ways.  <\/p>\n<p>    In his latest post, Prof. Hamburger continues to promote a    double standard under which he has an extremely broad view of    what is prohibited by the First Amendment when it comes to    non-coercive government persuasion to bar social media posts,    but a very narrow one with respect to     Texas's and Florida's attempts to force social media firms    to host speech they disapprove of. He now tries to justify this    by claiming that social media platforms are \"common carriers.\"    This analogy is badly flawed for reasons I outlined     here.  <\/p>\n<p>    Social media firms have never been legally considered common    carriers in the past. And state governments cannot make them so    just by legislative fiat. If they could, the same strategy    could be used to force other private entities to publish speech    they disapprove of, by passing laws declaring them to be    \"common carriers,\" as well. Thus, they could force Fox News to    air more left-wing views, compel the New York Times to    publish more right-wing ones, and so on.  <\/p>\n<p>    Prof. Hamburger accuses me of departing from libertarian    principles, due to my focus on coercion. But the distinction    between coercion and voluntary action is actually fundamental    to libertarianismand, indeed, to most other forms of    liberalism. It is, in fact, usually opponents of    libertarianismparticularly left-wing onesthat seek to efface    the distinction between the two, thereby justifying government    intervention to protect people against supposedly oppressive    voluntary relationships. Such arguments are a standard    justification for restrictive labor regulation, for example,    where it is said that voluntary agreements to work more than    certain amount of hours or for pay below the minimum wage are    actually \"exploitative\" coercive.  <\/p>\n<p>    Finally, Prof. Hamburger complains about my pointing out that    speech can be a \"public bad,\" and worries that it is somehow a    justification for suppression. I think it is pretty obvious    that at least some speech is a public bad, in so far    as it can lead to horrific government policies. That was true    of Nazi and Communist speech, for instance.  <\/p>\n<p>    It doesn't follow that the government is justified in    suppressing such speech. Even speech advocating awful ideas is    still an exercise of an important individual liberty. And there    isto make an obvious pointgood reason to distrust    government judgments about which speech is harmful and which is    not. Thus, there should be at least a strong presumption    against allowing the government to deal with this public bad    through coercive censorship.  <\/p>\n<p>    By contrast, the use of non-coercive suasionwhether by the    government or private partiesdoesn't pose anything like the    same risks. Private entities who differ with the government's    position will remain free to publish opposing views. And so    long as there is a market demand for such views, there will be    incentives to publish them. If the government persuades,    say, Twitter or Facebook, to take them down, that just creates    a market incentive for others to publish them.  <\/p>\n<p>    In sum, there is good reason to worry about government use of    coercion to either suppress speech (as the Biden Administration    may well have done in Murthy v. Missouri), or to    compel it (as Texas and Florida are trying to do). 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