{"id":1123265,"date":"2024-03-22T09:15:41","date_gmt":"2024-03-22T13:15:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/the-first-amendment-the-fourth-amendment-and-substantial-encouragement-reason\/"},"modified":"2024-03-22T09:15:41","modified_gmt":"2024-03-22T13:15:41","slug":"the-first-amendment-the-fourth-amendment-and-substantial-encouragement-reason","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/the-first-amendment-the-fourth-amendment-and-substantial-encouragement-reason\/","title":{"rendered":"The First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, and Substantial Encouragement &#8211; Reason"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Part of the Murthy v. Missourichallengers' claim    is that the First Amendment bans the government from even    \"substantially encouraging\" private entities to block user    speech. And as I noted     in the post below, I appreciate the difficulties with this    claim (though I also appreciate its appeal).  <\/p>\n<p>    Here, though, I wanted to repeat one narrow observation that I    had made some time ago. I'm not sure how far it goes, but it    struck me as worth noting.  <\/p>\n<p>    Consider this passage from     the oral argument by the federal government lawyer:  <\/p>\n<p>      I'm saying that when the government persuades a private party      not to distribute or promote someone else's speech, that's      not censorship; that's persuading a private party to do      something that they're lawfully entitled to do, and there are      lots of contexts where government officials can persuade      private parties to do things that the officials couldn't do      directly.    <\/p>\n<p>      So, for example, you know, recently after the October 7th      attacks in Israel, a number of public officials called on      colleges and universities to do more about anti-Semitic hate      speech on campus. I'm not sure and I doubt that the      government could mandate those sorts of changes in      enforcement or policy, but public officials can call for      those changes.    <\/p>\n<p>      The government can encourage parents to monitor their      children's cell phone usage or Internet companies to watch      out for child pornography on their platforms even if the      Fourth Amendment would prevent the government from doing that      directly.    <\/p>\n<p>      All of those are contexts where the government can persuade a      private party to do something that the private party's      lawfully entitled to do, and we think that's what the      government is doing when it's saying to these platforms, your      platforms and your algorithms and the way that you're      presenting information is causing harm and we think you      should stop .    <\/p>\n<p>    A forceful position, I think; and yet note that, when it comes    to many Fourth Amendment situations, the analysis may actually    be quite different.  <\/p>\n<p>    Say that you use your rights as a landlord, set forth in a    lease, to visit and inspect a tenant's apartment; see evidence    that he's committing a crime; and report it to the police. You    haven't violated the Fourth Amendment, because you're a private    actor. (That may be true even if you have committed some tort    or crime, see, e.g., United States v.    Phillips (9th Cir. 2022); Burdeau v. McDowell    (1921), but often your visit and your looking around may    actually be entirely legal.) And the police haven't violated    the Fourth Amendment, because they didn't perform the search.    The evidence from this \"private search\" can be used against the    tenant.  <\/p>\n<p>    But now say that the police ask you to do this. That inspection    may become a search governed by the Fourth Amendment. \"[I]f a    state officer requests a private person to search a particular    place or thing, and if that private person acts because of and    within the scope of the state officer's request,\" then the    search will be subject to the constitutional constraints    applicable to searches by the government. State v.    Tucker (Or. 2000) (applying the Oregon Constitution's    Fourth Amendment analogue) (police request to tow truck driver    to search items in car being towed), followed by State v.    Lien (Or. 2019) (police request to trash company to pick    up a person's trash in a particular way that would facilitate    its being searched); see also United States v. Gregory    (E.D. Ky. 2020) (similar fact pattern to Lien).    \"Police officers may not avoid the requirements of the Fourth    Amendment by inducing, coercing, promoting, or    encouraging private parties to perform searches they would    not otherwise perform.\" George v. Edholm (9th Cir.    2014) (police request to doctor to do a rectal search)    (emphasis added); see also United States v. Ziegler    (9th Cir. 2007) (police request to employer to search    employee's work computer).  <\/p>\n<p>    Likewise, \"In the Fifth Amendment context, courts have held    that the government might violate a defendant's rights by    coercing or encouraging a private party to extract a    confession from a criminal defendant.\" United States v.    Folad (6th Cir. 2017) (emphasis added); see also    United States v. Garlock (8th Cir. 1994). More broadlyand    here we come to precedents that were indeed raised in the    Murthy oral argumentthe Supreme Court held in    Blum v. Yaretsky (1982), a Due Process Clause case,    that \"a State normally can be held responsible for a private    decision only when it has exercised coercive power or has    provided such significant encouragement, either overt or    covert, that the choice must in law be deemed to be that of the    State.\" And in Norwood v. Harrison (1973), an Equal    Protection Clause case, it viewed it as \"axiomatic that a state    may not induce, encourage or promote private persons    to accomplish what it is constitutionally forbidden to    accomplish.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    To be sure, the inducement, and encouragement, and promotion in    Norwood involved the provision of tangible benefits    (there, textbooks given to racially segregated schools,    alongside other schools) and not just verbal encouragement. By    itself, the line in Norwood may thus not carry much    weight. But the Fourth Amendment cases in which    government-encouraged or government-requested private searches    became subject to the Fourth Amendment did involve just verbal    encouragement.  <\/p>\n<p>    Again, I'm not sure what to make all this. Perhaps the    government's trying to persuade private landlords to engage in    searches should indeed be viewed as government action that    potentially violates the Fourth Amendment, and the government's    trying to persuade private platforms to restrict user speech    should not be viewed as government action that potentially    violates the First Amendment. But since the Fourth Amendment    came up in the argument, I thought I'd note again this    potential analogy.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/reason.com\/volokh\/2024\/03\/19\/the-first-amendment-the-fourth-amendment-and-substantial-encouragement\/\" title=\"The First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, and Substantial Encouragement - Reason\" rel=\"noopener\">The First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, and Substantial Encouragement - Reason<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Part of the Murthy v. Missourichallengers' claim is that the First Amendment bans the government from even \"substantially encouraging\" private entities to block user speech.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/the-first-amendment-the-fourth-amendment-and-substantial-encouragement-reason\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94877],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1123265","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-first-amendment-2"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1123265"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1123265"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1123265\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1123265"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1123265"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1123265"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}