{"id":1122602,"date":"2024-03-02T14:25:35","date_gmt":"2024-03-02T19:25:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/judge-skeptical-of-lawsuit-brought-by-elon-musks-x-over-hate-speech-research-npr\/"},"modified":"2024-03-02T14:25:35","modified_gmt":"2024-03-02T19:25:35","slug":"judge-skeptical-of-lawsuit-brought-by-elon-musks-x-over-hate-speech-research-npr","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/free-speech\/judge-skeptical-of-lawsuit-brought-by-elon-musks-x-over-hate-speech-research-npr\/","title":{"rendered":"Judge skeptical of lawsuit brought by Elon Musk&#8217;s X over hate speech research &#8211; NPR"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>            Elon Musk departs the Phillip Burton Federal Building            and United States Court House in San Francisco, on            Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2023. Benjamin Fanjoy\/AP hide caption          <\/p>\n<p>          Elon Musk departs the Phillip Burton Federal Building and          United States Court House in San Francisco, on Tuesday,          Jan. 24, 2023.        <\/p>\n<p>    A federal judge in San Francisco appears poised to toss a    lawsuit brought by Elon's Musk's X against a nonprofit that    found the platform allowed hate speech to spread on the site    once known as Twitter.  <\/p>\n<p>    Last year, lawyers for X sued the Center for Countering Digital    Hate, claiming the group improperly scraped X to prepare    damning reports about the proliferation of hate speech on the    site.  <\/p>\n<p>    But in a hearing over Zoom on Thursday, U.S. District Judge    Charles Breyer appeared highly skeptical of the case, devoting    the majority of the proceeding to grilling Musk's lawyer over    why the lawsuit was brought at all.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jon Hawk, X's lawyer, said at core the suit is about honoring    data security agreements to protect the platform's users.  <\/p>\n<p>    Breyer was unconvinced.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"You put that in terms of safety, and I've got to tell you, I    guess you can use that word, but I can't think of anything    basically more antithetical to the First Amendment than this    process of silencing people from publicly disseminated    information once it's been published,\" Breyer said.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"You're trying to shoehorn this theory by using these words    into a viable breach of contract claim,\" the judge added.  <\/p>\n<p>    X contends that the CCDH violated the platform's terms of    service by using a third-party tool called Brandwatch to    analyze posts on the site to prepare reports critical of X.  <\/p>\n<p>    The social media company argued that, in the process, CCDH    gained unauthorized access to nonpublic data.  <\/p>\n<p>    Much of Thursday's hearing turned on what exactly constitutes    scraping and whether the center did indeed violate X's terms of    service by collecting data for its reports.  <\/p>\n<p>    X is seeking damages from the center, arguing that the platform    lost tens of millions of dollars from advertisers fleeing the    site in the wake of the nonprofit's findings.  <\/p>\n<p>    But in order to make this case, X had to show the group knew    the financial loss was \"foreseeable\" when it started its    account and began abiding by Twitter's terms of service, in    2019, before Musk acquired the site.  <\/p>\n<p>    X lawyer Hawk argued that the platform's terms of service state    that the rules for the site could change at any time, including    that suspended users whom the group says spread hate speech    could be reinstated.  <\/p>\n<p>    And so, Hawk said, if changes to the rules were foreseeable,    then the financial loss from its reports on users spreading    hate should have also been foreseeable.  <\/p>\n<p>    This logic confused and frustrated the judge.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"That, of course, reduces foreseeability to one of the most    vapid extensions of law I've ever heard,\" Breyer said.  <\/p>\n<p>    John Quinn, an attorney for CCDH, said the researchers' use of    the third-party search tool never accessed non-public posts  <\/p>\n<p>    \"This idea that this is about data security, this is about user    data, there was something to investigate, is implausible,\"    Quinn said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Among CCDH's reports was one highlighting how X took no action    against 99 out of 100 users it flagged for posting hate,    including racism, homophobia and Neo-Nazism.  <\/p>\n<p>    Research into the uptick of hate speech on X has in part fueled    an exodus among advertisers on the platform that has so    kneecapped the company that Musk himself has repeatedly floated    the possibility of bankruptcy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Late late year, major advertisers like Walmart, Apple, Disney    and IBM stopped advertising on X after Musk endorsed an    antisemitic post that claimed Jewish communities push hatred of    white people.  <\/p>\n<p>    In response, Musk     lashed out. He told companies: \"Don't advertise\" and used    the F-word on the stage of a public event to curse out firms    that distanced themselves from the platform.  <\/p>\n<p>    CCDH, through its spokespeople and staff, has tied its legal    battle with Musk to last year's boycott.  <\/p>\n<p>    The group has portrayed X's lawsuit as Musk's attempt to    silence criticism, and in Thursday's hearing, the group cited    California's so-called anti-SLAPP laws  which protect    people and groups from frivolous lawsuits aimed at suppressing    free speech.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Everything in that statute recognizes that very often the    litigation itself is the punishment,\" Quinn told the judge. \"We    are representing a non-profit organization here being sued by    the world's richest man.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Near the end of the hearing, the judge asked why X didn't bring    a defamation suit if the company believes its reputation has    been harmed by the nonprofit organization.  <\/p>\n<p>    But one cannot win a defamation suit, he noted, if the    statements being challenged are true.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"You could've brought a defamation case, you didn't bring a    defamation case,\" Breyer said. \"And that's significant.\"  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2024\/02\/29\/1234901186\/judge-skeptical-of-lawsuit-brought-by-elon-musks-x-over-hate-speech-research\" title=\"Judge skeptical of lawsuit brought by Elon Musk's X over hate speech research - NPR\" rel=\"noopener\">Judge skeptical of lawsuit brought by Elon Musk's X over hate speech research - NPR<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Elon Musk departs the Phillip Burton Federal Building and United States Court House in San Francisco, on Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2023. 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