{"id":1122361,"date":"2024-02-22T19:56:48","date_gmt":"2024-02-23T00:56:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/is-immortality-really-all-its-cracked-up-to-be-in-the-lord-of-the-rings-cbr-comic-book-resources\/"},"modified":"2024-02-22T19:56:48","modified_gmt":"2024-02-23T00:56:48","slug":"is-immortality-really-all-its-cracked-up-to-be-in-the-lord-of-the-rings-cbr-comic-book-resources","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/immortality\/is-immortality-really-all-its-cracked-up-to-be-in-the-lord-of-the-rings-cbr-comic-book-resources\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Immortality Really All Its Cracked Up to Be in The Lord of the Rings? &#8211; CBR &#8211; Comic Book Resources"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Summary                    <\/p>\n<p>    The    Lord Of The Rings set up tropes that would be used in    fantasy storytelling for decades. J.R.R. Tolkien didn't invent    Elves, Dwarves, Orcs, Goblins, or Dragons, but his conceptions    of them would become common. A great example of this is    Tolkien's Elves. In folklore, Elves were often tricksters,    creatures of magic and madness who loved to bewitch mortals.    Tolkien's Elves were quite different. While they were certainly    magical beings, they weren't tricksters, but divine. The Elves    were the first beings to awaken on Middle-earth and were known    as the \"favored Children of Ilvatar.\" The Elves were also    immortal and lived through some of the darkest moments in    Tolkien's entire saga.  <\/p>\n<p>    Elvish immortality in The Lord Of The Rings universe    is quite interesting because it's about more than just living    forever. The fate of Elves is bound up with the fate of    Middle-earth itself, and even the only death they can die - in    combat - isn't actually the end for them. The    Lord Of the Rings created modern fantasy, and the    changes it made to the Elves are unique. Elvish immortality is    something that is a bone of contention in Middle-earth between    Elves and Men, but it's as much of a curse as it is a blessing.  <\/p>\n<p>        The Valar are basically the gods of LOTR and they    were the servants of Eru Ilvatar. Ilvatar showed the Valar    the Music of the Ainur, a song that would become the universe    and Middle-earth. During this music, the Valar and the Maiar,    lesser divine spirits, saw the Children of Ilvatar, beings who    would live in the world but would be different from the Valar    and the Maiar. The Valar and the Maiar were given great power    by Ilvatar and could exist outside Middle-earth. The Children    were given different gifts and were to be the primary movers of    the Music of the Ainur, the unfolding creation of Ilvatar, as    time went on. The Valar and Maiar learned much about the Elves    from the music, as they were akin to each other in many ways.  <\/p>\n<p>    Middle-earth would exist for countless years before the Elves    awakened. The Elves lived on their own for a time before being    found by the Valar known as Orom, who would bring the three    chief Elves - Elw, Ingw, and Finw - to Valinor to see the    Valar. The Valar loved the three of them and invited the rest    of the Elves to Valinor as well. The three kindreds of Elves -    Teleri, Vanyar, and Noldor - would begin the journey to    Valinor. Some Elves would stop their journey, choosing instead    to stay in the lands they saw on the way.  <\/p>\n<p>    To understand the way death works on Middle-earth, it's crucial    to understand the fa and the hra. The    fa is the soul, for lack of a better term, and the    hra is the body. Elves and Men have both, but they    are not equal. The Elves's fa is more powerful than    that of a human, allowing them to perform greater feats of    magic, and it is bound to Middle-earth. The Elves'    hra is also different than Men's, as it's immune to    aging and disease and is stronger in general. All Elves go to    Valinor when they die and reside in the Hall of Mandos, the    home of the Valar Nmo. Nmo was known as the Doomsman of the    Valar, proclaiming the judgments of the Valar and helping to    judge the dead.  <\/p>\n<p>    When an Elf is killed, they wake up in the Hall of Mandos,    surrounded by other Elves that were also killed. They are only    fa at this point and have no body. This doesn't mean    that they're ghosts, however, wandering through Valinor. They    are consigned to the Halls of Mandos and cannot leave for a    time. Eventually, Elvish fa are given a new body and    allowed to live among their kindred in Valinor, enjoying all    the    fruits of the Blessed Realm.  <\/p>\n<p>    Death for an Elf is a waiting game. They are immediately    transported to the Halls of Mandos, spend an indeterminate    amount of time - probably contingent on if they were \"good\" or    \"bad\" in Nmo's estimation - and then are reincarnated into a    body that is basically their old body. Once Men awakened, they    would also learn of the fate of the Elves, which was quite    different from their own.  <\/p>\n<p>    Men in Middle-earth were weaker and dying of age, disease, and    hardships. Wounds that could kill a Man often didn't kill    Elves. When Men awoke, there was no Valar to guide them. It is    believed that Melkor and his servants found Men first and put    the fear of death into them. Men's deaths worked in a different    way than Elves did as well. The Elves's fa was bound    to Middle-earth, and they were meant to reside in it until the    end of time. Men's fa left Middle-earth and it is not    known what happened to them. The Elves and the Valar both    believe that the fa of Men goes to be with Ilvatar    directly, leaving behind Middle-earth.  <\/p>\n<p>    Men are jealous of Elves for their immortality, but Elves are    jealous of Men because they get to leave Middle-earth. This    isn't possible for the Elves, although many believe that after    the Dagor Dagorath, the last battle at the end of the world,    the Elves will finally get to join Ilvatar. Elves eventually    become weary of Middle-earth and desire to go beyond it, but    never can. Many fear that the destruction of Middle-earth will    be the end of them. Men think that Elves live forever, but for    the Elves, their longer lifespan still leaves behind    uncertainties over what comes next.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dwarves basically get the same treatment as Elves, with a few    key differences. Dwarves were created by Aul, the Valar of    smithcraft, and given life by Ilvatar. Dwarves get to live    longer than Men and are tougher physically, but they do die.    They have their own wing of the Halls of Mandos, but unlike the    Elves, they don't get reincarnated. They reside within the    Halls until the Dagor Dagorath when they join the rest of the    forces of the Valar in the last battle against Melkor. It is    thought among the Dwarves that they will help Aul build a new    world, but other than that, they have no idea what will    eventually happen to them either.  <\/p>\n<p>    The    Elvish life cycle in LOTR is well-known to every    Elf, but exceptions have been made several times. The first    example of this is the tale of Beren and Luthien. Beren was a    Man from the House of Barahir, one of the three houses of Men    that were known as the Elf-Friends. Luthien was the daughter of    Elu Thingol (formerly known as Elw, one of the first three    chiefs) and Melian, making her half-Elf and half-Maiar. Beren    and Luthien fell in love and Thingol told Beren that the only    way he would allow a Man to wed his daughter was if he was    brought Silmarill from Morgoth's crown.  <\/p>\n<p>    Beren, Luthien, and Finrod Felagund, a king of the Noldor, went    to steal one of the Silmarills, although Beren was mortally    wounded during the hunt and would have left the circles of the    world if it wasn't for Luthien. Elves can will themselves to    die, departing their bodies for the Halls of Mandos, and    Luthien did so. At the Halls, she sang a song of such sorrow to    Nmo that the Valar retrieved Beren's fa before it    could depart Middle-earth. Beren was sent back to his body and    Luthien came back as well, but she was no longer immortal.    Together, the two of them would eventually die of old age after    having a child named Dior.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dior was the first of the Half-Elven and the grandfather of    Elros and Elrond. They were given a choice at the end of the    First Age - they could have Elvish immortality or Mannish    mortality. Elrond chose to be an Elf and Elros chose to be a    Man. Tolkien never really explained if the Half-Elven were    given this choice because of their divine blood or through a    connection to the Silmarills but it seems like the only ones    who got to make the choice were those of the First Age. For    example, Aragorn and Arwen's child doesn't get the choice of    the Half-Elven, despite being of the blood Elves, Men, and    Maiar.  <\/p>\n<p>    Glorfindel is a LOTR character who has only appeared    in the books. Glorfindel stands among the    most powerful Elves in Middle-earth. In Fellowship Of    The Ring, Elrond sends Glorfindel instead of Arwen to find    Aragorn and the Hobbits when the Nazgl are chasing them. The    book establishes that Glorfindel is an Elf-lord of great power,    one feared by the Ringwraiths. The text describes white light    coming from Glorfindel when he first comes on the scene, and    Frodo sees him as a glowing figure at the Ford of Bruinen.    There's a good reason that Glorfindel had that much power,    though, as he was a Noldor of the First Age, one who returned    from the Halls of Mandos.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Silmarillion sets up the Elven    realms of Middle-earth like Gondolin, which is the last    Elvish kingdom to hold out against Morgoth's forces. Glorfindel    helped the survivors escape the city when they encountered a    powerful Balrog. Glorfindel jumped out to battle the demon even    though Elves usually lost against the Balrogs. However,    Glorfindel was able to not only save the refugees of Gondolin    from the Balrog but also kill it. He died in the attempt and    went to the Halls of Mandos where he was eventually    reincarnated. Glorfindel was sent back to Middle-earth in the    year 1600 of the Second Age by Manw, and given the power of a    Maiar.  <\/p>\n<p>    Glorfindel is the only example of a reincarnated Elf going back    to Middle-earth. However, in certain writings of Tolkien, there    were two Glorfindels. One was the Balrog killer of the First    Age and the other was named for him. Later on, Tolkien decided    to change the story of Glorfindel, as outlined in The Last    Writings, and Glorfindel of Gondolin and Glorfindel of    Rivendell became the same.  <\/p>\n<p>    Tolkien changed the way Elves were seen forever, taking them    from the tricksters of folklore into noble, semi-divine beings.    Their immortality was meant to be a part of this, but Tolkien    didn't want it to be as easy as \"Elves live forever.\" Instead,    Tolkien linked Elves to Middle-earth, much like the Valar and    Maiar who left Ilvatar.  <\/p>\n<p>    Tolkien dealt with the sadness of Elvish immortality in the    Akallabth. The King of Numenor asked a visitor from    Tol Eressa, the Elvish island outside of Valinor that was part    of the Blessed Realm, why the Numenoreans shouldn't be jealous    of Elvish immortality. The answer was that immortality wasn't a    reward for the Elves, it was just a part of their being. They    were bound to Middle-earth and had to deal with the reality of    never finding anything new; their lives were just an endless    repetition with no hope of an ending. To the Elves, the death    of Men was something special, as they got to leave Middle-earth    and journey into the mysteries of the universe.  <\/p>\n<p>    Looking at it from that perspective, Elvish immortality is as    much a curse as anything else. The best an Elf can hope for is    Valinor, but even then they will spend countless ages awaiting    the final battle of the world and what comes beyond it. Elves'    immortality is an illusion for mortals, as one day they will    face the same uncertainty that Men do. Throughout Tolkien's    Legendarium, there are multiple examples of it being more than    just immortality, showing it for what it is - another tragedy,    of endless separation with a mysterious endpoint.  <\/p>\n<p>        The Lord of the Rings is a series of epic fantasy adventure        films and television series based on J. R. R. Tolkien's        novels. The films follow the adventures of humans, elves,        dwarves, hobbits and more in Middle Earth.      <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the original post here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cbr.com\/lotr-elves-immortality-has-its-drawbacks\" title=\"Is Immortality Really All Its Cracked Up to Be in The Lord of the Rings? - CBR - Comic Book Resources\">Is Immortality Really All Its Cracked Up to Be in The Lord of the Rings? - CBR - Comic Book Resources<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Summary The Lord Of The Rings set up tropes that would be used in fantasy storytelling for decades. J.R.R. 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