{"id":1120750,"date":"2024-01-05T18:32:05","date_gmt":"2024-01-05T23:32:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/scientists-predict-dmt-trip-from-cardiac-activity-big-think\/"},"modified":"2024-01-05T18:32:05","modified_gmt":"2024-01-05T23:32:05","slug":"scientists-predict-dmt-trip-from-cardiac-activity-big-think","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/psychedelics\/scientists-predict-dmt-trip-from-cardiac-activity-big-think\/","title":{"rendered":"Scientists predict DMT trip from cardiac activity &#8211; Big Think"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    The heart is a fickle thing, but it may be best to keep it that    way. In a recent preprint     article, still awaiting peer review, Imperial College    London researchers Fernando Rosas and Pedro Mediano reveal how    the heart behaves under psychedelics, dynamically interacting    with the brain in unique ways that may promote well-being.    Drawing on multiple data sets for psilocybin, ketamine, DMT,    and LSD, the researchers analyzed correlations between brain    activity, subjective effects, and three measures of cardiac    activity in humans: heart rate, heart-rate variability, and    heart-rate entropy. Their findings suggest that by knowing the    heart, we can better know the mind.  <\/p>\n<p>    When it comes to modeling psychedelic brain effects,    neuroscientists tend to view heart rate and other peripheral    physiological changes as mere byproducts of the experience,    irrelevant to understanding how altered states of consciousness    are constructed, let alone how psychedelics might improve    mental health. After all, its common knowledge that many    psychoactive drugs, including psychedelics, can increase heart    rate (the number of beats per minute), so why should the line    of inquiry go any further?  <\/p>\n<p>    For good reason, as it turns out. Thanks to advances in    neuroscience, we now know that the heart can influence     cognition, including emotion, time perception, social    interaction, and sense of self. In fact,     selfhood itself may be grounded in the integration of    internal signals, especially heartbeats, into the brains    representation of the body. And when it comes to influencing    selfhood, not all beats are created equal.  <\/p>\n<p>    In order to support the body in balancing fight or flight    with rest and digest, one important thing the heart does    under normal conditions is behave erratically. Although it may    feel like your heart beats rather consistently, it actually    varies by a fraction each time, even when youre at rest. This    variation in time between beats is called heart rate    variability (HRV), and its important for adapting to change.    The pattern of HRV differs for each person, like a fingerprint,    and can shift depending on the time of day, season, and other    factors. Overall higher HRV has been firmly linked to greater        health, as it seems to reflect the ability of an organism    to flexibly adapt to complex environmental circumstances.    Meanwhile, lower variability has been linked to illness.    Good sleep, physical exercise, and positive social interaction    have been shown to increase HRV, while depression,    schizophrenia, and other conditions have been associated with    reduced HRV. The heart, it seems, is fundamental to conscious    experience.  <\/p>\n<p>    Still, most theories of how psychedelics work have focused on    the brain, broadly neglecting the rest of the body. Another    view, Rosas and Mediano write, is that autonomic changes (i.e.    changes in involuntary bodily functions) are part of the    experience itself, and therefore bearers of signal rather than    noise.  <\/p>\n<p>    It was on this basis that Rosas and his team  which includes    University College London neuroscientist and cardiac researcher    Sarah Garfinkel  sought to investigate the link between brain    and heart in psychedelic experience. They wanted to know: Do    psychedelics increase HRV as well as heart rate, or do    something else to the heart entirely? Even more intriguingly,    would these cardiac markers predict subjective experience? They    already had a few clues to work with. Since     previous research has shown that psychedelics increase    brain entropy, which is a measure of the variability of    conscious states (more diverse and less typical patterns of    activity), they wondered whether psychedelics might also    diversify patterns of heart activity. This variability of HRV     variability of variability, if you will  is called heart-rate    entropy (HRE).  <\/p>\n<p>    Entropy measures not the prevalence of specific patterns, but    the diversity of patterns in heart rate fluctuations, Rosas    told Big Think. I like thinking that entropy doesnt look for    patterns but looks for patterns of patterns.  <\/p>\n<p>    To measure HRV, you need to identify the shape of the    pattern. To measure HRE, you dont necessarily need to know    what the HRV pattern looks like exactly  just how diverse it    is.  <\/p>\n<p>    Two subjects may display entirely different shapes in their    patterns of fluctuation, but for the entropy this is not a    problem, as it just assesses how broad the repertoire of    patterns of each subject are.  <\/p>\n<p>    If psychedelics increased heart-rate entropy, the team    wondered, would these changes be correlated with increases in    brain entropy, and could that tell them something about the    therapeutic effects of psychedelics?  <\/p>\n<p>    First, the research team showed that, compared to placebo, all    psychedelic compounds  ketamine, psilocybin, LSD, and DMT     did, in fact, increase HR, HRV, and HRE.  <\/p>\n<p>    Next, to take a closer look at the dynamic relationship between    heart activity, brain activity, and subjective experience, they    pulled aside the DMT data set for analysis. They chose this    data set for two reasons. Because a DMT trip takes less than 20    minutes, the data set gave Rosas and his team a good glimpse of    what high variability over a relatively short time could look    like. This set also provided them with rich psychological    ratings associated with various subjective dimensions of the    experience, gathered from questionnaires. (As a side note, the    psilocybin and ketamine data sets were excluded from the    following analyses as they couldnt provide the same insight    into the dynamics of a trip, covering only a small portion of    what is a much longer trip.)  <\/p>\n<p>    The researchers found that heart-rate entropy predicted changes    in brain entropy much better than HR and HRV, with substantial    correlation 0 to 5 minutes (peak experience) and 9 to 12    minutes after injection. Although heart-rate entropy waxes and    wanes similarly to the mean heart rate, it has very distinctive    predictive properties, Rosas says. Even if their dynamics may    look similar, they seem to be capturing rather different    processes.  <\/p>\n<p>    In fact, each autonomic marker had very distinctive predictive    power over dimensions of the DMT experience as it unfolded,    explaining up to 70% of the variation between subjects. For    example, the intensity of experience was dominated by HR,    challenging experience by HR entropy, and complex imagery    alternating between HRV, HR, and entropy at different    times.  <\/p>\n<p>    That said, Rosas cautions against over-interpreting the    findings.  <\/p>\n<p>    This is an explorative analysis on a small sample size, which    we think should be taken as a proof of principle that this    works, he says. Larger studies should be carried out to find    out what autonomic feature is most associated with what    psychological dimension.  <\/p>\n<p>    Next, they examined the LSD data set, which was larger (20    subjects under drug and placebo in four different environmental    conditions), to see whether heart-rate entropy and brain    entropy were simply co-occurring phenomena, or whether they    each contributed in their own way to the subjective experience.    As the LSD dataset used MEG and structural MRI rather than the    low-density EEG of the DMT data set, they were also able to    extract spatial information to tell them which parts of the    brain showed this entropic link (as it turns out, the    precuneus, mid cingulate, and sensorimotor areas,    specifically).  <\/p>\n<p>    What they found is that different features of the LSD    experience  simple and complex imagery, positive mood,    intensity of the experience, ego dissolution, and emotional    arousal  correlated in distinct ways with different biomarkers    (heart and brain). For example, brain entropy was the strongest    predictor of simple and complex imagery, while HR entropy was    the strongest predictor of positive mood. But when taken    together, positive correlations between heart and brain    biomarkers were even more predictive of various states,    suggesting that knowing the state of the autonomic system    substantially increases predictive power over subjective    scores.  <\/p>\n<p>          Subscribe for counterintuitive, surprising, and impactful          stories delivered to your inbox every Thursday        <\/p>\n<p>    The predictive power of autonomic markers is not redundant    with the predictive power of brain entropy, Rosas says, but    seems to be synergistic. In other words, heart activity    doesnt just reflect brain activity  its an integral part of    the picture, contributing its own pieces to the puzzle of the    psychedelic state. Better predictions of the psychological    effects of LSD can be attained by considering models which    include both brain and heart signatures, and their    interactions.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, what could all this mean for mental health? For starters,    you might say hearts were behaving rather strangely in these    data sets, and thats a good thing.  <\/p>\n<p>    The patterns of heart activity we were seeing with    psychedelics was quite special, Dr. Garfinkel told Big Think.    To get such striking rises in both heart rate and heart rate    variability together is an unusual profile, typically only seen    under conditions of intense joy and euphoria.  <\/p>\n<p>    In most cases, if heart rate increases, HRV decreases. This    happens every time you exercise, for example. Whats more, in    schizophrenia and some cases of depression, brain entropy is    increased while HRV is reduced. To see simultaneous increases    in brain entropy, heart rate, and heart entropy was fairly    remarkable.  <\/p>\n<p>    As we are increasingly recognizing that cardiac signatures and    their interactions with the brain are potentially pivotal for    guiding emotional states, Garfinkel said, this relatively    unique signature may be integral in helping us understand the    body-brain dynamics underscoring the therapeutic and beneficial    effects of psychedelics.  <\/p>\n<p>    The next obvious step would be to disentangle the relationship    between brain effects and HRV  for example, by determining    whether the heart itself could be driving, not just responding    to, psychedelic states. Motivated by this possibility, Rosas    said, I dont like the simplistic view that the heart is    nothing more than a blood pump, but Id like to be able to    support counter-arguments on empirical evidence.  <\/p>\n<p>    In future studies, Rosas believes causality could first be    investigated without psychedelics by employing animal models    to perform pharmacological or other interventions, altering one    system or the other to see what happens with the coupling.    Whats most exciting to him, for now, is that focusing on the    heart could change the way psychedelic scientists work:    Collecting large samples of ECG data related to psychedelics    is far easier, less invasive, and more cost-effective than    brain imaging.  <\/p>\n<p>    While the team acknowledges that the uniqueness of this    entropic heart effect could be partly due to its difficulty    to elicit in a laboratory setting (thus making it relatively    absent from the research literature), they also offer another     more heartening  possibility: This peculiar autonomic    signature may be associated with the very special state of mind    often associated with psychedelic experiences, related to    expansion, connection, and meaning.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>The rest is here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/bigthink.com\/neuropsych\/psychedelic-heart\/\" title=\"Scientists predict DMT trip from cardiac activity - Big Think\">Scientists predict DMT trip from cardiac activity - Big Think<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> The heart is a fickle thing, but it may be best to keep it that way. In a recent preprint article, still awaiting peer review, Imperial College London researchers Fernando Rosas and Pedro Mediano reveal how the heart behaves under psychedelics, dynamically interacting with the brain in unique ways that may promote well-being. 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