{"id":1120572,"date":"2023-12-31T01:59:02","date_gmt":"2023-12-31T06:59:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/would-keeping-trump-off-the-ballot-hurt-or-help-democracy-the-new-york-times\/"},"modified":"2023-12-31T01:59:02","modified_gmt":"2023-12-31T06:59:02","slug":"would-keeping-trump-off-the-ballot-hurt-or-help-democracy-the-new-york-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/donald-trump\/would-keeping-trump-off-the-ballot-hurt-or-help-democracy-the-new-york-times\/","title":{"rendered":"Would Keeping Trump Off the Ballot Hurt or Help Democracy? &#8211; The New York Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      As the top elections official in Washington State, Steve      Hobbs says he is troubled by the threat former President      Donald J. Trump poses to democracy and fears the prospect of      his return to power. But he also worries that recent      decisions in Maine and Colorado to bar Mr. Trump from      presidential primary ballots there could backfire, further      eroding Americans fraying faith in U.S. elections.    <\/p>\n<p>      Removing him from the ballot would, on its face value, seem      very anti-democratic, said Mr. Hobbs, a Democrat who is in      his first term as secretary of state. Then he added a      critical caveat: But so is trying to overthrow your      country.    <\/p>\n<p>      Mr. Hobbss misgivings reflect deep divisions and unease      among elected officials, democracy experts and voters over      how to handle Mr. Trumps campaign to reclaim the presidency      four years after he went to extraordinary lengths in an      attempt to overturn the 2020 election. While some, like Mr.      Hobbs, think it best that voters settle the matter, others      say that Mr. Trumps efforts require accountability and      should be legally disqualifying.    <\/p>\n<p>      Challenges to Mr. Trumps candidacy have been filed in at      least 32 states, though many of those challenges have gained      little or no traction, and some have languished on court      dockets for months.    <\/p>\n<p>      The decisions happening right now come amid a collapse of      faith in the American electoral system, said Nate Persily, a      Stanford Law School professor who specializes in election law      and democracy.    <\/p>\n<p>      We are walking in new constitutional snow here to try and      figure out how to deal with these unprecedented      developments, he said.    <\/p>\n<p>      Professor Persily and other legal experts said they expected      the United States Supreme Court would ultimately overturn the      decisions in Colorado and Maine to keep Mr. Trump on the      ballot, perhaps sidestepping the question of whether Mr.      Trump engaged in an insurrection. Mr. Persily is hopeful that      whatever ruling the court issues will bring clarity  and      soon.    <\/p>\n<p>      This is not a political and electoral system that can deal      with ambiguity right now, he said.    <\/p>\n<p>      Mr. Trump and his supporters have called the      disqualifications in Maine and Colorado partisan ploys that      robbed voters of their right to choose candidates. They      accused Democrats of hypocrisy for trying to bar Mr. Trump      from the ballot after campaigning in the past two elections      as champions of democracy.    <\/p>\n<p>      After the Colorado Supreme Court ruled that Mr. Trump should      be removed from the states primary ballot, Senator J.D.      Vance, Republican of Ohio, said in a statement: Apparently      democracy is when judges tell people theyre not allowed to      vote for the candidate leading in the polls? This is      disgraceful. The Supreme Court must take the case and end      this assault on American voters.    <\/p>\n<p>      Chris Christie, the former governor of New Jersey and Mr.      Trumps most ardent critic in the Republican primary,      warned      that Maines decision would turn Mr. Trump into a martyr.    <\/p>\n<p>      But other prominent critics of Mr. Trump  many of them      anti-Trump Republicans  said the threat he posed to      democracy and his actions surrounding the Jan. 6 attack on      the Capitol now required an extraordinary intervention,      whatever the electoral consequences.    <\/p>\n<p>      The challenges are based on a Reconstruction Era provision of      the 14th Amendment that prohibits anyone who has engaged in      rebellion or insurrection from holding federal or state      office.    <\/p>\n<p>      J. Michael Luttig, a retired conservative federal appeals      court judge, hailed Colorados and Maines decisions as      unassailable interpretations of the Constitution. Officials      in Maine and Colorado who disqualified Mr. Trump from the      ballot have written that their decisions stemmed from      following the language of the Constitution.    <\/p>\n<p>      But on a recent sunny Friday afternoon in the Echo Park      neighborhood of Los Angeles, Deena Drewis, 37, a copy writer,      and Aaron Baggaley, 43, a contractor, both of whom have      consistently voted for Democrats, expressed a queasy      ambivalence over such an extraordinary step.    <\/p>\n<p>      Im really just conflicted, Mr. Baggaley said. Its hard      to imagine he didnt fully engage in insurrection. Everything      points to it. But the other half of the country is in a      position where they feel like it should be up to the      electorate.    <\/p>\n<p>      Officials in Democratic-controlled California have shown      little appetite for following Colorado and Maine.      Californias Democratic secretary of state, Shirley Weber,      announced on Thursday that Mr. Trump would remain on the      ballot, and Gov. Gavin Newsom dismissed calls by other      Democrats to remove him. We defeat candidates at the polls,      Mr. Newsom said in a statement. Everything else is a political      distraction.    <\/p>\n<p>      In interviews, some voters and experts said it was premature      to disqualify Mr. Trump because he had not been criminally      convicted of insurrection. They worried that red-state      officials could use the tactic to knock Democratic candidates      off future ballots, or that the disqualifications could      further poison the countrys political divisions while giving      Mr. Trump a new grievance to rail against.    <\/p>\n<p>      Attempts to disqualify demagogues with deep popular support      often backfire, said Yascha Mounk, a professor and political      scientist at Johns Hopkins University who has written about      threats to democracies. The only way to neutralize the      danger posed by authoritarian populists like Donald Trump is      to beat them at the ballot box, as decisively as possible and      as often as it takes.    <\/p>\n<p>      The decisions by Colorados highest court and Maines      secretary of state barring Mr. Trump from state primary      ballots are on hold for now and are likely to be decided by      the U.S. Supreme Court.    <\/p>\n<p>      While most of the challenges to Mr. Trumps candidacy have      been proceeding in federal or state courts, Maines      constitution required the voters seeking to disqualify Mr.      Trump to file a petition with the secretary of state, putting      the politically volatile and hugely consequential decision      into the hands of Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, a      Democrat.    <\/p>\n<p>      Her counterparts in other states said that they had spent      months discussing whether they could face a similar decision,      and that they had been talking with other elections officials      and their legal teams about the thickets of state laws      governing each states elections.    <\/p>\n<p>      In Washington State, Mr. Hobbs said he did not believe he had      the power as secretary of state to unilaterally remove Mr.      Trump from the ballot. He was relieved, he said, because he      did not think one person should have the power to decide who      qualifies to run for president.    <\/p>\n<p>      The stakes for the nation were enormous, Mr. Hobbs said,      because of the damage Mr. Trump had already done to faith in      the nations elections.    <\/p>\n<p>      Its hard to put the genie back in the bottle, he said.      This is going to be a long-term effort to try to regain      trust among those who have lost it.    <\/p>\n<p>      Jena Griswold, Colorados Democratic secretary of state, said      in an interview this week that she supported decisions by Ms.      Bellows and the Colorado Supreme Court to remove Mr. Trump      from the ballot.    <\/p>\n<p>      Election workers and secretaries of state have increasingly      become the targets of conspiracy theorists and violent      threats since Mr. Trumps refusal to accept his 2020 defeat;      Ms. Griswold said she had received 64 death threats since the      lawsuit seeking to remove Mr. Trump from the ballot was filed      by six Republican and unaffiliated voters in Colorado.    <\/p>\n<p>      All of us swear to uphold our state constitution and the      U.S. Constitution, Ms. Griswold said. Making these      decisions takes bravery and courage.    <\/p>\n<p>      Her office announced this week that, because Mr. Trumps      case had been appealed, his name would be included on      Colorados primary ballots unless the U.S. Supreme Court said      otherwise or declined to take up his case.    <\/p>\n<p>      In Arizona, placing Mr. Trump on the ballot was a more      cut-and-dry decision, said Adrian Fontes, the Democratic      secretary of state. He said that state law required him to      list any candidate who had been certified in two other      states.    <\/p>\n<p>      He called the blizzard of legal rulings, dissents and      contradictory opinions swirling around Mr. Trumps place on      the ballot a slow rolling civics lesson that demonstrated      the countrys democratic resilience.    <\/p>\n<p>      I kind of celebrate the notion its complicated, he said.      Were having this conversation because thats what democracy      is about.    <\/p>\n<p>      Mitch Smith and Michael Wines      contributed reporting.    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Continued here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/12\/30\/us\/trump-maine-democracy.html\" title=\"Would Keeping Trump Off the Ballot Hurt or Help Democracy? - The New York Times\">Would Keeping Trump Off the Ballot Hurt or Help Democracy? - The New York Times<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> As the top elections official in Washington State, Steve Hobbs says he is troubled by the threat former President Donald J. 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