{"id":1120049,"date":"2023-12-16T14:05:20","date_gmt":"2023-12-16T19:05:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/universalism-and-nonresistant-nonbelief-word-on-fire\/"},"modified":"2023-12-16T14:05:20","modified_gmt":"2023-12-16T19:05:20","slug":"universalism-and-nonresistant-nonbelief-word-on-fire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/atheist\/universalism-and-nonresistant-nonbelief-word-on-fire\/","title":{"rendered":"Universalism and Nonresistant Nonbelief &#8211; Word on Fire"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    While the problem of evil is undoubtedly the most famous    argument for atheism, a related argument from divine hiddenness    has, in recent years, also been quite prominent. The argument    from divine hiddenness has been articulated by the    philosopher J.L. Schellenberg, and a number of prominent    atheist YouTubers such as Alex OConnor, Justin Schieber, and others have    appealed to his argument to argue against the existence of God.    Schellenbergs argument hinges on the notion of so-called    nonresistant nonbelieversi.e., people who are open to belief    in God but yet do not believe in him. I will outline the    argument in one of its popular forms and examine it in light of    the question of universal salvation.  <\/p>\n<p>    Alex OConnor, in a recent debate, put the argument like this:  <\/p>\n<p>    Clearly, premises (2) and (3) are the key ones in this    argument. For the sake of this discussion, we can grant the    truth of (3) and focus on some reasons why (2) might be false.    That is, why an all-loving God who wants relationships with his    creatures would allow nonresistant nonbelievers to exist. We    will examine this in light of the question of    universalismi.e., the belief that all human persons will    ultimately be saved by God. By looking at both a positive and    negative answer to the question of universalism, we can see    some plausible reasons God would allow for nonresistant    nonbelief.  <\/p>\n<p>        The true force of the argument comes by means of the        eternal significance of having a relationship with God.      <\/p>\n<p>    Suppose for the sake of argument that universalism is truethat    is, all human persons will ultimately come to share eternal    life with God and enjoy the beatific    vision. If universalism is true, then ultimately, all    people do come to know God and come to be in a loving    relationship with him. Thus, ultimately, there will be no    nonresistant nonbelievers even though, per our concession, some    exist at present. In this case, what is the force of the    argument from divine hiddenness? It seems to me that the only    way the argument can succeed is if the atheist insists that,    for any person who is open to belief in God, God must, at    that very instant, bring it about that the person believes    in God. If God waited even five seconds to make the person a    believer, it would somehow contradict his loving nature.  <\/p>\n<p>    This suggestion seems altogether implausible to me. Surely in    his infinite wisdom, God has reasons for allowing someone to    remain in unbelief for a short time. And since we are    considering universalism, all of our temporal lives are, in    comparison with eternity, very short. We can plausibly    hold that God has reasons for allowing someone to persist in    unbelief. It requires little effort to come up with at least a    few reasons.  <\/p>\n<p>    Here is just one possible set of reasons:  <\/p>\n<p>    Virtually everyone would agree that it is good for people to go    through trials and struggles in life and in relationships in    particular. Perhaps by allowing us to remain in ignorance of    his existence for some time, we are forced to reflect more    deeply on our lives and the world more broadly and to seek God    more closely than we would have if his existence were more    obvious to us. Such a search might develop certain virtues in    us like perseverance. It may also make us better evangelists to    others who themselves struggle with doubts and disbelief. Even    our belief in God might be stronger than it would have been    otherwise, since we would have gone through a more rigorous    search for him. If even one of these is plausible, the argument    from hiddenness has problems.  <\/p>\n<p>    In summary, if universalism is true, there are ultimately no    nonresistant nonbelievers. Even if such people exist for a    period of time in their mortal lives or even all of their    mortal lives, this short period where they struggle in the dark    can be a means to goods they would not otherwise have    experienced. Thus, it seems, if universalism is true, the    argument from nonresistant nonbelief has little to no force.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the contrary, suppose that universalism is not true and that    at least some or all nonbelievers fail to be saved and spend    eternity separated from God. I believe this is an implicit    premise in arguments from hiddenness, which transforms the    argument from divine hiddenness into a specific case of the    argument from evil: Why would God allow the seeming injustice    of allowing nonresistant nonbelievers to be separated from him    for all eternity?  <\/p>\n<p>    Obviously, much could be said about the Catholic Churchs    teaching on salvation regarding non-Catholics, but we can put    that aside for this discussion. Let us just assume for the sake    of argument that nonresistant nonbelievers cannot be saved and    that their nonresistant nonbelief is sufficient for separating    them from God for eternity. In this case, the stakes for the    unbeliever are much higher than in the case of universalism    since their ultimate destiny depends upon putting their faith    in God. In this case, surely, the atheist might argue, God    would instill belief in these nonresistant nonbelievers.  <\/p>\n<p>          The Word on Fire Bible Vol. III: The Pentateuch        <\/p>\n<p>    But even here, I think the atheist is plausibly wrong. Let us    consider John, a nonbeliever who is open to belief in God but    nevertheless lives a life far from Gods law and thus receives    his just reward at the end of his life. Wouldnt it have been    better if John had believed in God? Perhaps . . . but perhaps    not.  <\/p>\n<p>    Suppose that God chose to give John greater evidence for his    existence such that John came to believe that God existed.    Suppose further that John, despite knowledge of God and perhaps    basic knowledge of Gods commandments, lived the same kind of    life as I described above. In this case, Gods judgment on the    believer John would be more severe than on the nonbeliever John    per the principle that God judges those in accord with the    revelation they have received. God then might know the    following possibilities:  <\/p>\n<p>    Since in neither scenario does John come into a loving    relationship with God, option (1) would seem to be the better    since the judgment in (1) is less severe than the judgment in    (2). Thus, if God is all merciful as Christians hold, God would    plausibly prefer (1) to (2). Thus, on account of Gods mercy,    plausibly, there are nonresistant nonbelievers.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is helpful to examine the argument from divine hiddenness in    terms of salvation because it seems that the true force of the    argument comes by means of the eternal significance of having a    relationship with God. However, when looking at the argument    either under a universalist framework    or under a non-universalist framework, the argument from divine    hiddenness has plausible defeaters. If universalism is true,    the arguments force is significantly reduced because in the    end, there are no nonresistant nonbelievers. If universalism is    false, then God might plausibly want a person to not come to    believe that he exists, if such belief would not lead to    further conversion. In this case, such belief would merely    increase the persons culpability for their sins and thus merit    more punishment from God. If God is merciful, as the defender    of the argument holds, then the existence of nonresistant    nonbelievers is not surprising or contradictory with Gods    nature. Much more could be said about the argument.  <\/p>\n<p>    What is presented here briefly are just two possible answers to    this question of which there are many more. Some prominent    historical Christian writers who have wrestled with this    problem are Blaise Pascal and Sren Kierkegaard, whose insights    are invaluable.  <\/p>\n<p>    More recently, many other Christian writers such as     Travis Dumsday have written extensively on this topic    responding directly to J.L. Schellenberg. A very recent and    much longer video discussion on this topic was recently done by    the Protestant thinker Gavin Ortlund, which I would recommend:  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to read the rest:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wordonfire.org\/articles\/universalism-and-non-resistant-non-belief\/\" title=\"Universalism and Nonresistant Nonbelief - Word on Fire\">Universalism and Nonresistant Nonbelief - Word on Fire<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> While the problem of evil is undoubtedly the most famous argument for atheism, a related argument from divine hiddenness has, in recent years, also been quite prominent.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/atheist\/universalism-and-nonresistant-nonbelief-word-on-fire\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[487843],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1120049","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheist"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1120049"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1120049"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1120049\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1120049"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1120049"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1120049"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}