{"id":1119817,"date":"2023-12-07T04:19:48","date_gmt":"2023-12-07T09:19:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/neal-milner-watch-that-swinging-door-liberals-lest-it-hit-you-on-the-way-out-honolulu-civil-beat\/"},"modified":"2023-12-07T04:19:48","modified_gmt":"2023-12-07T09:19:48","slug":"neal-milner-watch-that-swinging-door-liberals-lest-it-hit-you-on-the-way-out-honolulu-civil-beat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/liberal\/neal-milner-watch-that-swinging-door-liberals-lest-it-hit-you-on-the-way-out-honolulu-civil-beat\/","title":{"rendered":"Neal Milner: Watch That Swinging Door, Liberals, Lest It Hit You On The Way Out &#8211; Honolulu Civil Beat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      Liberals want to explain away the views of people in places      like Door County, Wisconsin. They do so at their peril.    <\/p>\n<p>    A short time after Donald Trump was elected president, the    political scientist Katherine Cramer, who had just published a    wonderful book about rural and small-town Wisconsin,     had this warning: The last thing many people want to do in    the near future, she said, is listen more closely to Trump    voters in the heartland of America. But it is clear that our    failure to do so has left us blindsided.  <\/p>\n<p>    Judging by their reactions to a recent Washington Post story    about politics in rural Wisconsin Door County, when it comes to    liberals and presidential elections,     warning ignored.  <\/p>\n<p>    It feels way too much like 2016 all over again.  <\/p>\n<p>    Liberals are doing many of the same old things that misled them    in the past by dismissing and diminishing the words of ordinary    people and substituting their own sophisticated explanations    instead because theirs is, well, right.  <\/p>\n<p>    But this is not about being right, really.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its really about, oh, maybe close to half of America thinking    liberals are wrong or not thinking about these things at all.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its the intelligent high-knowledge liberal flyers versus the    low information little people who dont really know whats    going on and are being deceived.  <\/p>\n<p>    Another interpretation is that many liberals are deceiving    themselves.  <\/p>\n<p>    Lay your right hand down palms up. Door County, Wisconsin is    the thumb. Its a small-town and rural place (population    slightly over 30,000), the kind of place that the media often    ignores or misunderstands.  <\/p>\n<p>    Heres the key. Its one of only nine counties in the U.S. that    have voted in favor of the winning presidential candidate in    every election since 2000.  <\/p>\n<p>    The article brings to life what many surveys show: that voters    are depressed by politics right now. They dont much like    either Trump or Biden (for different reasons.) They wish they    could escape from politics, make it all go away, because    politics feels so depressing, discouraging and intrusive.  <\/p>\n<p>    Most important of all, the reporters let the people they    interviewed speak for themselves  their words, their own    interpretations. So, most of it is plainspoken and specific,    ordinary language.  <\/p>\n<p>    If you dont like the message, blame the messenger. Thats what    some of the articles commentator-critics do. Why does the    Post continue to choose low information voters? one critic    asks. Try interviewing people who know the facts and    understand that we are sliding toward fascism with Trump. You    are doing a great disservice to this country with articles like    this.  <\/p>\n<p>    Disservice? Really? Doing what that commentator wants would    probably create a story closer to what liberals believe. But    considering what we know about voter psychology and more    significantly what we know about Trump support, a story    cleansed of low information voters, which by the way here    sounds like a stigmatizing term, would simply reinforce liberal    beliefs, and deceive them about the strengths of those who    believe something else.  <\/p>\n<p>    Simple reminders: (1) Voters dont have to take a civics test    to vote. (2) Calling someone stupid for having different    political beliefs is not going to make that person change her    mind.  <\/p>\n<p>    Another dismissal is about race. I visited Door County, a    reader commented. Its beautiful up there. The people are    nice. But its as white as Wonder Bread. Im not sure whats    revealed by interviewing people in places like this.  <\/p>\n<p>    Whats revealed is how people in a rare, swing county interpret    politics. The article is about how people in a swing county    think.  <\/p>\n<p>    The more    complex version of this criticism doesnt ask for a rewrite    but rather a reinterpretation. If you read the piece closely,        this argument goes, you can see all the bad things that    Republicans have done to make people think the way Door County    folks do.  <\/p>\n<p>    Useful under some circumstances but not relevant here because    the outside reader is connecting the dots in ways that people    in Door County dont think about.  <\/p>\n<p>      These liberal responses to the Door County article reinforce      a fantasy world.    <\/p>\n<p>    That broader story is one that I would likely agree with, but    not the point here. Its not about what Republicans do. Its    about how certain voters think.  <\/p>\n<p>    The broader analysis might add a layer to what the Door County    people themselves say, but it does not replace their views or    diminish their importance. Its pundit-splaining.  <\/p>\n<p>    These liberal responses to the Door County article reinforce a    fantasy world. It exaggerates the liberal critics rationality    and at the same time decreases their understanding. In other    words, the critics are in a bubble.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thats perfectly understandable. We are all in our own bubbles.    The people we trust, the sources of information we accept and    reject, and the values we believe in  they all constitute our    own bubbles of trust and information.  <\/p>\n<p>    That sustains us and at the same time limits us because there    are times people, in this case liberals, have to bust out of    the bubble in order to get the world they want. Like now.  <\/p>\n<p>    Cramer in her 2016 book The    Politics of Resentment, which remains the best book about    rural Trump voters, says: The conclusion that people vote the    way they do because they are stupid is itself pretty shallow.  <\/p>\n<p>    It overlooks that much of political understanding is not about    facts; it is about how we see those facts.  <\/p>\n<p>    Keep that in mind when you wonder why so many voters dont seem    impressed by Bidens economic policies.  <\/p>\n<p>    In a close election like 2024 is likely to be, changing    relatively few minds can make the difference. But even that is    tremendously hard. Its much easier and very tempting to write    the whole thing off, as in we are screwed. Who can do anything    about those crazy Trump supporters?  <\/p>\n<p>    I feel your pain, and I feel your polarization. But maybe    looking at Door and the rest of those few swing counties offers    some encouragement to us sophisticated big city liberals about    how minds and election results change.  <\/p>\n<p>                   Sign                  Up                <\/p>\n<p>                  Sorry. That's an invalid e-mail.                <\/p>\n<p>                  Thanks! 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