{"id":1119656,"date":"2023-11-30T20:32:23","date_gmt":"2023-12-01T01:32:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/silent-hill-ascensions-terrible-jam-man-who-likes-to-make-jams-was-not-written-by-ai-says-genvid-ceo-every-word-pc-gamer\/"},"modified":"2023-11-30T20:32:23","modified_gmt":"2023-12-01T01:32:23","slug":"silent-hill-ascensions-terrible-jam-man-who-likes-to-make-jams-was-not-written-by-ai-says-genvid-ceo-every-word-pc-gamer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/ascension\/silent-hill-ascensions-terrible-jam-man-who-likes-to-make-jams-was-not-written-by-ai-says-genvid-ceo-every-word-pc-gamer\/","title":{"rendered":"Silent Hill: Ascension&#8217;s terrible Jam Man (who likes to make jams) was not written by AI, says Genvid CEO: &#8216;every word &#8230; &#8211; PC Gamer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Have you heard of the Jam Man of Silent Hill: Ascension? You're    about to. In the third episode of what started out as a        potentially interesting experiment and has quickly    snowballed into a complete disaster, Karl Johansen (a Norwegian    farmer) runs into the Jam Man.  <\/p>\n<p>    I'm just going to let this clip shared by VoidBurger on Twitter    play out (you can also watch the full episode here.    The Jam Man materialises at around 24:33).  <\/p>\n<p>    Silent Hill: Ascension has some stilted dialogue, but this is a    particularly egregious example. One which had the morbidly    curious wondering if the whole thing was AI-generated: \"This    random NPC pops in, declares he's berry hunting, says he's seen    weird shit and does not expound on it, provides no information,    leaves for more berries. Goodbye forever, BerryMan,\" writes    VoidBurger in a follow-up    quote Tweet with over 13,000 likes.  <\/p>\n<p>    The character's actual name is \"Forager\", or CrimsonRain722. If    you're wondering why a Silent Hill character has numbers next    to their name, that's because Forager\/Jam Man\/Berry Man is a    cameo, a side-character players can spend \"tickets\" on. This    gets their name plastered next to them, and uses their    customisable avatar as a model. Here's another fun example    courtesy of AnonyMooseXIV on    Twitter.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Nothing gets me in the mood for horror like seeing a    Twitch-style username and a subtitle telling me exactly what    the thing I'm looking at is, during a weird close-up of    someone's bland Silent Hill mii. Very immersive. Anyway,    Genvid's CEO, Jacob Navrok, has said that Jam Man is not the    product of a deep learning algorithm, as per a    statement    on his Twitter.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Every word in Ascension was written by real people  across    our 100,000+ words, zero are authored by LLMs or AI, and all    are from dedicated work of a talented team,\" says Navrok. I'm    sort of willing to believe him, only because I think we're all    getting a touch too comfortable with pointing at things that    are downright bad and saying 'Ah, this must be AI-generated!'  <\/p>\n<p>    But something is absolutely going wrong with Silent Hill:    Ascension's scripting in general. One hefty tick in the 'AI    shlock' column is how Jam Man says: \"Now that you mention it, I    have seen some strange things out in these woods. You?\" Before    immediately veering back into his latest hyperfixation, rowan    berries.  <\/p>\n<p>    I figure a couple of things could've happened here. One, this    scene was originally longer, but it was cut for time. From a    production standpoint, a lot of mistakes have been made, but in    the editing booth this is absolutely the right move. If you    need to snip something, Jam Man's waffling dialogue to justify    the price of a cameo should be the first thing on the cutting    room floor.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    This could also just be a case of poor direction given to the    voice actor. That \"You?\" could have intentionally been    something like 'I have seen strange things in these woods,    like you.' Which would make sense. A Norwegian farmer    in the woods with a gun is pretty strange. Maybe the Forager    was just getting defensive, he was just trying to make his    Jams.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jam Man also mentions a \"patch\" of rowan berries. Rowan berries    grow on trees, and while you could describe a group of trees as    a patch if you thought real hard about it, it's not really the    correct language, especially if berries are your passion. This    wouldn't be the first time a writer's fumbled phrasing or not    done the research, so under any other circumstance it'd be a    non-event.  <\/p>\n<p>    My point being, there are a thousand different things that    could go wrong before AI gets involved. The suspicion is    warranted, though, considering how vocal Navrok has been about    exploring AI in the past. He goes into this in a    separate    post: The team tested AI-directed scenes, but \"they don't    have a proper sense of timing for TV\", they tested using AI for    chase scenes, but \"they would just get stuck too often.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    \"We previously used AI to try to do chat moderation, but this    failed,\" which is why text chat is currently disabled, by the    way.     It was a trainwreck. \"We are using AI to detect offensive    names for account registration. This is working to an extent.    Still not perfect, but better than previous solutions  We are    actively working on a new chat moderation solution, though just    your standard models available for license.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Again, you are free to apply pinches of salt as much as you'd    like. I for one am happy to take Navrok at his word, though    that's not to say a rogue writer couldn't be using LLMs on the    sly. Still, sometimes a thing just isn't that good. Even if    everyone's trying their damndest to make it so. One thing's for    certain: I will never forget Jam Man. His jams will always have    a place in my heart.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Follow this link: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/silent-hill-ascensions-terrible-jam-man-who-likes-to-make-jams-was-not-written-by-ai-says-genvid-ceo-every-word-in-ascension-was-written-by-real-people\/\" title=\"Silent Hill: Ascension's terrible Jam Man (who likes to make jams) was not written by AI, says Genvid CEO: 'every word ... - PC Gamer\">Silent Hill: Ascension's terrible Jam Man (who likes to make jams) was not written by AI, says Genvid CEO: 'every word ... - PC Gamer<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Have you heard of the Jam Man of Silent Hill: Ascension?  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/ascension\/silent-hill-ascensions-terrible-jam-man-who-likes-to-make-jams-was-not-written-by-ai-says-genvid-ceo-every-word-pc-gamer\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187766],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1119656","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ascension"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1119656"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1119656"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1119656\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1119656"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1119656"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1119656"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}