{"id":1119260,"date":"2023-11-13T04:33:54","date_gmt":"2023-11-13T09:33:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/trump-appeals-gag-to-protect-first-amendment-right-to-intimidate-above-the-law\/"},"modified":"2023-11-13T04:33:54","modified_gmt":"2023-11-13T09:33:54","slug":"trump-appeals-gag-to-protect-first-amendment-right-to-intimidate-above-the-law","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/trump-appeals-gag-to-protect-first-amendment-right-to-intimidate-above-the-law\/","title":{"rendered":"Trump Appeals Gag To Protect First Amendment Right To Intimidate &#8230; &#8211; Above the Law"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      (Photo by Brendan McDermid-Pool\/Getty Images)    <\/p>\n<p>    In 1991, the Supreme Court ruled that it is a legitimate    exercise of state power to ban trial participants from speech    which poses a substantial likelihood of materially    prejudicing a judicial proceeding. That case,Gentile    v. State Bar of Nevada, involved a ban on attorneys    commenting on pending trials. But for 30    years,Gentile has been understood to set the    standard for imposing gag orders on all parties to a    case, not just the attorneys.  <\/p>\n<p>    What Donald Trumps appeal of his gag order in    the election interference prosecution presupposes is     maybe it didnt?  <\/p>\n<p>    MaybeGentile only applies to lawyers. Maybe the    proper test is theBrandenberg incitement    standard. Maybe under Supreme Court decisions from 1976 and1978, Trump has the same rights as    any member of the press to discuss a pending case. Maybe his    status as a presidential candidate allows him to intimidate    witnesses at will.  <\/p>\n<p>    Or maybe not.  <\/p>\n<p>    These are arguments which Trumps lawyers made at the trial    level with Judge Tanya Chutkan. Quite frankly, they sucked    then, and they continue to suck now. The only difference is    that Trump has became even more brazen in his insistence that    prosecutors did not include any evidence that any witness,    prosecutor, or court staff had experienced any threats or    harassment from third parties after President Trumps    statements.  <\/p>\n<p>    Trump repeats this claim several times, carefully stepping    around the fact that a woman named Abigail Shry is under    indictment after leaving a    voicemail for Judge Chutkan saying Hey you stupid slave n     You are in our sights, we want to kill you.    Yes,technically, thats not a threat to any    witness, prosecutor, or court staff. But its not    speculative, as Trump argues repeatedly.  <\/p>\n<p>    In fact, prosecutors and the trial court both noted that    Trumps social media posts provoked waves of harassment for    election officials and poll workers in the wake of the 2020    election as he sought to sow the claims of vote fraud which    formed the basis of the election interference charged in this    case. Trumps lawyers scoff that this was almost three years    ago, and long before this case was brought, which is basically    like a sealed juvenile record, if you think about it. (But not    too hard.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Trump continues to mischaracterize the hecklers veto,    claiming that his free speech rights cannot be abridged just    because his goons might hear him say that Gen. Mark Milley    ought to be executed and then take it upon themselves to make    it happen. Which is wildly offensive, but perhaps less so than    Trump likening himself to civil rights protestors wrongly    arrested for disturbing the peace by exercising their First    Amendment rights. After all, this is a case which charges Trump    with violating a Reconstruction Era statute by seeking to toss    out 20 million votes on an inchoate theory that there must    have been vote fraud in majority-Black cities.  <\/p>\n<p>    Trump also argues that Judge Chutkans order violates the    sacred right of 100 million Americans to hear Trump call Bill    Barr a sluggish loser:  <\/p>\n<p>      The Gag Order violates President Trumps most fundamental      First Amendment rights. Even worse, it gives no consideration      to the First Amendment rights of President Trumps audience,      the American public, to receive and listen to his speech.    <\/p>\n<p>    Never mind that that statistic includes the 94 million bots and    actual users from platforms Trump got booted off of in January    of 2021.  <\/p>\n<p>    These are profoundly unserious arguments, all of which failed    at the trial court. Although, to be fair to Lauro, once your    client has forced you to defend his right to attack the    prosecutors wife on social media, youre a little bit boxed in    when you try to argue that he has a fundamental First Amendment    right to call Special Counsel Jack Smith Deranged.  <\/p>\n<p>    Theres also the bad fact that the second Judge Chutkan    administratively stayed the gag order, Trump took to Truth    Social to complain that cooperative    witnesses are weaklings and cowards, and so bad for the future    our Failing Nation. I dont think that Mark Meadows is one of    them, but who really knows?  <\/p>\n<p>    And Trumps vicious attacks on Michael Cohen, who testified    against him in New York, are a pretty fair indicator of how    hell behave in this case if allowed to persist unmuzzled.  <\/p>\n<p>    The gag order remains stayed through oral argument on November    20. Whether Judges Millet, Pillard, and Garcia will be swayed    by the same arguments which failed to convince Judge Chutkan is    unclear. But perhaps this brief is aimed a little further down    First Street after all.  <\/p>\n<p>    US v. Trump[Circuit    Docket via Court Listener]  <\/p>\n<p>    Liz Dye lives in    Baltimore where she writes about law and    politics.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the original post here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2023\/11\/trump-appeals-gag-to-protect-first-amendment-right-to-intimidate-witnesses\/\" title=\"Trump Appeals Gag To Protect First Amendment Right To Intimidate ... - Above the Law\" rel=\"noopener\">Trump Appeals Gag To Protect First Amendment Right To Intimidate ... - Above the Law<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> (Photo by Brendan McDermid-Pool\/Getty Images) In 1991, the Supreme Court ruled that it is a legitimate exercise of state power to ban trial participants from speech which poses a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing a judicial proceeding. That case,Gentile v.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/trump-appeals-gag-to-protect-first-amendment-right-to-intimidate-above-the-law\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94877],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1119260","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-first-amendment-2"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1119260"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1119260"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1119260\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1119260"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1119260"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1119260"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}