{"id":1119256,"date":"2023-11-13T04:33:47","date_gmt":"2023-11-13T09:33:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/prosecutors-mock-trump-attempt-to-get-election-case-dismissed-above-the-law\/"},"modified":"2023-11-13T04:33:47","modified_gmt":"2023-11-13T09:33:47","slug":"prosecutors-mock-trump-attempt-to-get-election-case-dismissed-above-the-law","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/prosecutors-mock-trump-attempt-to-get-election-case-dismissed-above-the-law\/","title":{"rendered":"Prosecutors Mock Trump Attempt To Get Election Case Dismissed &#8230; &#8211; Above the Law"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      (Photo by Win McNamee\/Getty)    <\/p>\n<p>    In the past six weeks, Trump has filed four motions to dismiss    his election interference case in DC, as well as throwing a    dozen other miscellaneous motion-shaped wrenches in the works    as part of a transparent attempt to get his March 4, 2024 trial    date postponed.  <\/p>\n<p>    Last week the government requested to combine its    response to Trumps motion to dismiss on statutory grounds and    his motion to dismiss on constitutional grounds into one    document to avoid the repetition and cross-referencing that    pervades the defendants separate motions. Prosecutors sought    leave to exceed the 45-page limit for a single reply brief,    promising that the combined document would come in well under    the 90 pages to which the Government would be entitled if it    filed separate opposition briefs.  <\/p>\n<p>    Trump opposed the motion, because    his lawyers are assholes. Ostensibly, he didnt want to allow    prosecutors to game the system by spending 60 pages attacking    his (idiotic!) constitutional arguments. Judge Tanya Chutkan    granted the governments request, sighing in a minute order    that the discussion of each Motion therein shall not exceed 45    pages.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the event, the governments reply is 79 pages, 15 of which    are taken up with the caption and tables of contents and    authorities. Because Trumps motions were gobbledygook, and no    one needed to spend 90 pages refuting them.  <\/p>\n<p>    The government first tackles the claim that the indictment    must be dismissed because it failed to allege that Trump    violated the statutes at issue. In the defendants telling, he    had a First Amendment right to try to overturn the election by    dint of fake electoral certificates. And anyway, all he did was    make words, which cant be a crime because have you    people even heard of the FIRST AMENDMENT?  <\/p>\n<p>    In response, the government points out that Trump was    not indicted for spewing lies about rampant election fraud. He    was indicted for conspiring to defraud the United States,    obstruct an official proceeding, and violate the right to vote    and have ones vote counted by substituting fake electoral    votes for real ones and stopping Congress certifying the winner    of the 2020 election.And the First Amendment protects the    right to shout ridiculous lies, but the fact that Im a broke    Nigerian prince, send me cash is just words wont save you    from a fraud charge.  <\/p>\n<p>    Trump also made a bizarre argument that he was just lobbying    Congress, in keeping with his God-given right to petition the    government.  <\/p>\n<p>    That argument fails because the indictment alleges not    lobbying or political advocacy, but instead that the defendant    engaged in a multifaceted conspiracy aimed at overturning the    results of the presidential election by targeting deceit at the    federal government function, the special counsel scoffed in    response.  <\/p>\n<p>    Trumps constitutional arguments come in for similar disdain     and clock in at considerably less than 45 pages. In chief, he    argued that he cant be arrested because he was already    impeached, and uh, you know DOUBLE JEOPARDY.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Impeachment Clause specifies that the party convicted    shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial,    judgment and punishment, according to law. But Trump argued    that hes not a party convicted, and adopting the obverse    assumption, he cannot now be tried in a court of law.  <\/p>\n<p>    But, as the government notes: impeachment is a civil remedy,    and has nothing to do with criminal jeopardy; Trump was    impeached for incitement, not conspiring to obstruct Congress,    and those things are not the same; Congress and the Justice    Department are separate sovereigns, and thus the charges are    parallel, not overlapping; and, Trumps own Republican allies    said that they were voting against impeachment because they    thought they lacked jurisdiction to impeach an ex-president,    not based on the validity of the charge.  <\/p>\n<p>    On top of which, thats not how anyone has ever understood the    Impeachment Clause to function, looking back to the days of the    Founding Fathers  although perhaps if theyd consumed a bucket    of paint thinner and spent 1,000 hours mainlining Steve    Bannons podcast, theyd have come to a different conclusion.  <\/p>\n<p>    The special counsel requests that Judge Chutkan designate the    double jeopardy claim frivolous, which would block Trump from    an immediate interlocutory appeal under DC Circuit precedent.  <\/p>\n<p>    The defendants wholly meritless double-jeopardy claim should    not, therefore, divest this Court of jurisdiction in a manner    that risks delaying the trial, the prosecutors concluded.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the plus side for Trump, he did win a partial victory on his    motion to extend discovery subpoena deadlines under Rule 17(c).    The original cutoff was tomorrow, November 9, 2023, but Trump    asked for an extension to February 9, 2024, just three weeks    before the scheduled start of this trial. That was never going    to happen, of course. But Judge Chutkan did give him two weeks    extra to get his homework done, extending the deadline to    November 27.  <\/p>\n<p>    And thats probably the biggest win hes going to get out of    this trial court.  <\/p>\n<p>    US v. Trump [DDC Docket via    Court Listener]  <\/p>\n<p>    Liz Dye lives in    Baltimore where she writes about law and    politics.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Continue reading here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2023\/11\/prosecutors-mock-trump-attempt-to-get-election-case-dismissed-by-shouting-first-amendment-and-double-jeopardy\/\" title=\"Prosecutors Mock Trump Attempt To Get Election Case Dismissed ... - Above the Law\" rel=\"noopener\">Prosecutors Mock Trump Attempt To Get Election Case Dismissed ... - Above the Law<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> (Photo by Win McNamee\/Getty) In the past six weeks, Trump has filed four motions to dismiss his election interference case in DC, as well as throwing a dozen other miscellaneous motion-shaped wrenches in the works as part of a transparent attempt to get his March 4, 2024 trial date postponed.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/prosecutors-mock-trump-attempt-to-get-election-case-dismissed-above-the-law\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94877],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1119256","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-first-amendment-2"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1119256"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1119256"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1119256\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1119256"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1119256"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1119256"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}