{"id":1119162,"date":"2023-11-08T21:16:19","date_gmt":"2023-11-09T02:16:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/james-obrien-on-post-brexit-britain-this-conflation-of-patriotism-the-irish-times\/"},"modified":"2023-11-08T21:16:19","modified_gmt":"2023-11-09T02:16:19","slug":"james-obrien-on-post-brexit-britain-this-conflation-of-patriotism-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/brexit\/james-obrien-on-post-brexit-britain-this-conflation-of-patriotism-the-irish-times\/","title":{"rendered":"James O&#8217;Brien on post-Brexit Britain: &#8216;This conflation of patriotism &#8230; &#8211; The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Every publisher seeks a theme, one that mirrors a countrys    soul or mood. This seasons publishing zeitgeist in Britain is    UKatastrophe  where politics and society in the country is    measured, often to be found wanting.  <\/p>\n<p>    The list of books is growing: former BBC    presenter Gavin Eslers often angry polemic Britain Is Better    than This; former Conservative minister Rory Stewarts Politics    on the Edge; and radio host James OBriens How They Broke    Britain.  <\/p>\n<p>    Born to a single Irish mother and adopted, OBrien, with nearly    1 million listeners a week to his British commercial station    LBC daily talkshow, has become the voice of those who hated    Brexit, Boris Johnson, and much else about where    power lies in todays UK.  <\/p>\n<p>    Speaking this week as former No 10 Downing Street chief of    staff Dominic Cummings laid bare the dysfunctionality inside    the building during the height of the Covid crisis, OBrien    says half-jokingly that the books alternative title was Why    Is Everything So Shit?  <\/p>\n<p>        Dominic Cummings leaves the UK's Covid-19 inquiry in        London on Tuesday. Photograph: James Manning\/PA Wire      <\/p>\n<p>    OBrien believes this even more now than I did when I started    writing the book, and more widely than I did when I finished    it, because ever since he submitted the manuscript, everyone    has been using the word.  <\/p>\n<p>    I guess theres an argument about whos to blame, but I dont    think theres much argument about how low weve been brought    and how unnecessary it was, says the presenter of the    three-hour-long The Whole Show.  <\/p>\n<p>    OBrien does not lack confidence, as illustrated, perhaps, by    the titles for his previous books, How to Be Right, and How Not    to Be Wrong, and he is liked and loathed in equal measure.  <\/p>\n<p>    As always, he is forthright. There are many to blame for the    UKs current woes, he argues. It is a tale of loss and    betrayal; of unbridled arrogance and unchallenged ignorance; of    personal impunity, warped ideology and political incompetence,    he writes.  <\/p>\n<p>      If youre losing 30 million a year on a commercial project,      youre probably not in it for the money    <\/p>\n<p>    And the British media, TV and newspapers in what was once known    as Fleet Street, is at the head of the queue, where politicians    get away with declaring the demonstrably untrue by supine or    sycophantic journalists.  <\/p>\n<p>    Equally, he blames a slew of privately, often secretly funded    think tanks that have over the last few decades largely    seized control of the debate inside the Conservative Party, and    won platforms to portray themselves as independent voices    across British broadcasting.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now the battle for hearts and minds has moved fully into TV,    with the creation of GB News, fronted by a slew of Conservative    MPs, including Jacob Rees-Mogg, and former Ukip leader Nigel    Farage. They are soon to be joined by Boris Johnson.  <\/p>\n<p>        James OBrien: 'I dont buy the idea that liberals        are out of touch. I think people who think immigration is        the source of their problems are the ones that are out of        touch'      <\/p>\n<p>    Curiously, OBrien argues that GB News can be both successful    and a failure at one and the same time; unable, he says, with    more than a touch of pride, to touch the kind of numbers that    weve been doing for years.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, he goes on, the real focus for those behind GB News,    including hedge-fund chairman Paul Marshall, is not the    ill-educated, the disgruntled or the impoverished, but rather    to win disproportionate influence over the current and future    path of the Conservatives.  <\/p>\n<p>    If youre losing 30 million a year on a commercial project,    youre probably not in it for the money, he says. Theyve    bought themselves a seat if not at top table then certainly at    a table where seats didnt used to be for sale.  <\/p>\n<p>      I dont buy the idea that liberals are out of touch. I think      people who think immigration is the source of their problems      are the ones that are out of touch    <\/p>\n<p>    The politically right-wing station has put on a cloak of    respectability, latterly in the last month or two by getting    rid of some particularly ridiculous characters but I suspect    that theyll just keep banging the same drum, says OBrien.  <\/p>\n<p>    Theyll be doing nativism. Theyll be going after refugees.    Aneurin Bevan [postwar Labour minister who founded the NHS] put    it best: the project has always been about persuading voters to    use their power to protect wealth. For people with no wealth to    protect those with wealth.  <\/p>\n<p>    Theyre there to distract from the real reasons for inequality    and unfairness and to focus peoples attention on well, in the    case of GB News, everything from Covid vaccines to foreigners,    that theyre the real reason why your life isnt going in the    way that you want it to go.  <\/p>\n<p>    Is all of this not just the typical argument one expects to    hear from a left-leaning, London-based liberal, one untouched    by issues that inflame debate?  <\/p>\n<p>    OBrien rejects the point. Most people holding anti-immigrant    feelings are not getting their ideas from interactions with    immigrants: theyre getting their ideas from people like Nigel    Farage telling them that immigrants are awful, he says.  <\/p>\n<p>    [A proper f***ing    lunch with Nigel Farage: I mustnt be sloshed this    evening]  <\/p>\n<p>    Opinion polling taken when British newspapers take their foot    off the gas about immigration supports his contention, he    argues, since the number of people citing immigration as their    number one concern during such times plummets.  <\/p>\n<p>    So no, I dont buy the idea that liberals are out of touch. I    think people who think immigration is the source of their    problems are the ones that are out of touch, but I have    enormous sympathy for them because of the effort and epic    expense put into convincing them of that.  <\/p>\n<p>    Demographics will change opinions, he says. I mean, if you, or    your mums care home is understaffed, you are going to have to    ask yourself some fairly tough questions about why you spent    the first two decades of this century calling for people to be    sent back where they came from.  <\/p>\n<p>        UK prime minister Rishi Sunak speaks to staff during        a visit to Milton Keynes University Hospital. Photograph:        Leon Neal\/Pool\/AFP via Getty      <\/p>\n<p>    The National Health Service in the UK has 110,000 unfillable    vacancies, while hospitality and other businesses are shy of    workers because Brexit, driven by insularity and xenophobia,    has created an environment into which a lot of people dont    want to come, he says,  <\/p>\n<p>    Despite the promises of Brexiteers, however, immigration into    the UK has not fallen. Rather, the source of immigration has    changed, with fewer people coming from eastern Europe and more    from southeast Asia.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, the UKs challenges on the issue of immigration could    get worse if the same people that managed to inflame baseless    racism against eastern Europeans decide to turn their attention    to people whove come here from India, or Bangladesh or    Pakistan to fill existing vacancies.  <\/p>\n<p>    If they turn their demagoguery in that direction, things could    get quite ugly again. Possibly uglier than weve seen in a    while, he says, because this time the immigration debate would    have the added ingredient of colour.  <\/p>\n<p>      You cant turn up in someones life like a hand grenade and      pull the pin out the back of your neck    <\/p>\n<p>    OBrien has faith in the coming generation, one that perhaps    has a greater understanding than earlier generations about the    sins of the British empire, including an understanding about    the countrys role in centuries of the slave trade.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think that runs deep in our society  deeper than I    appreciated as a younger man  that this belief, that this    conflation of patriotism with a sense of superiority, underpins    an awful lot of whats going on, he says.  <\/p>\n<p>    Such attitudes lead some British people to be convinced that    the reason why weve got stately homes is because we are a    superior breed, its not because we, you know, went around the    world robbing and pillaging, and then slaving, he says.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now a proud Irish passport holder, OBrien enjoys programmes    where people trace their family roots, but he has no desire to    do the same, even though he knows that his birth mother is    still alive, and where she is living.  <\/p>\n<p>    He easily found his birth mothers name from documents his    adopted parents had kept for him in the attic, unlike his    friend, comedian Dara  Briain, who was adopted in Ireland    under much tougher disclosure rules and found the bureaucracy    around his search unnecessarily hard.  <\/p>\n<p>    A lot of women in Ireland in their 60s and 70s have raised    families and married men who know nothing about the babies that    they gave up. You cant turn up in someones life like a hand    grenade and pull the pin out the back of your neck. Youve just    not got that right, he says.  <\/p>\n<p>    His Irish background, which he says he has always romanticised,    is important to him, because he often wonders how life for the    unadopted me growing up in a small town or village in Ireland    would have been like during the 1970s. Not easy, I would    suspect.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ive always had a consciousness of the other me, the unadopted    me, he says, saying that it affects his politics and his sense    of justice and equality and attitude to privilege: Ive always    been incredibly conscious of serendipity and good fortune in my    life.  <\/p>\n<p>    Would he, not because of anyones fault, have grown up less    loved, or less privileged in Ireland, he wonders. So the    question is not one of nationality, but rather of opportunity    lost, or found? Yeah, I think so, its got more to do with    the unadopted lad.  <\/p>\n<p>    How They Broke Britain by James OBrien is published by    Ebury  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>View post: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/books\/2023\/11\/04\/james-obrien-on-post-brexit-britain-this-conflation-of-patriotism-with-a-sense-of-superiority\/\" title=\"James O'Brien on post-Brexit Britain: 'This conflation of patriotism ... - The Irish Times\">James O'Brien on post-Brexit Britain: 'This conflation of patriotism ... - The Irish Times<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Every publisher seeks a theme, one that mirrors a countrys soul or mood. This seasons publishing zeitgeist in Britain is UKatastrophe where politics and society in the country is measured, often to be found wanting. 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