{"id":1118973,"date":"2023-10-29T07:46:49","date_gmt":"2023-10-29T11:46:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/walking-the-poison-path-an-interview-with-coby-michael-the-wild-hunt\/"},"modified":"2023-10-29T07:46:49","modified_gmt":"2023-10-29T11:46:49","slug":"walking-the-poison-path-an-interview-with-coby-michael-the-wild-hunt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/entheogens\/walking-the-poison-path-an-interview-with-coby-michael-the-wild-hunt\/","title":{"rendered":"Walking the poison path: An interview with Coby Michael &#8211; The Wild Hunt"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    TAMPA, Fla.  Coby Michael is someone who isnt shy about    discussing the path that he walks. Even among witches, the    subject of baneful plants and maleficia can be a    touchy subject at best. But frequently, such taboo subjects    create their own liminality where youll find both the mature    at work and the foolhardy at play. Coby represents the former.  <\/p>\n<p>    One of the first things I noticed about Coby was the presence    he carried about himself. In spite of working with plant    spirits often associated with death and necromancy, he didnt    strike me as someone trying to put on spooky heirs. In fact, I    felt an immediate kinship when we met in person over the    summer. He is not someone who simply found himself on the path    of the witch one day but was born upon the crossroads and the    ensuing trials of life ensured that a witch he would be.  <\/p>\n<p>    What also stands out about Coby is how compassionate he is.    Rather than letting his life experiences embitter him, he    genuinely seems to care and pay attention when conversing with    people, whether theyre new and uninitiated or an old hand on    the poison path, he relates to each person where theyre at.  <\/p>\n<p>    When asked what his superhero origin story is, he was happy to    roll with it. Oh, it was a dark and stormy night that shaped    me I would say. Im a Witch, Im a magical practitioner, Pagan,    Heathen, all of those different things.  <\/p>\n<p>    He also said that growing up in the Midwest with a religious    family shaped him in ways that maybe his family wasnt    expecting. With family members who were pastors and churches of    various denominations, he found himself asking tough questions    and not getting satisfactory answers, including around the    deaths of loved ones.  <\/p>\n<p>    For as long as I can remember, things that I knew were wrong.    In a lot of ways, I would get answers that would stir up more    questions, more of a sense of fear and lack of control. I would    ask a lot of questions about what happened and never was given    an answer that really satisfied me and made me feel good, he    said.  <\/p>\n<p>    While he said that he felt like he had a great childhood and    was surrounded by a lot of loving family members, he also came    upon the limits that a religious community imposes on you,    especially as a gay person. Also at play were the effects of    toxic masculinity and an alcoholic family member.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think in a lot of ways, I kind of wrapped up like my, my dad    issues with my greater Dad issues  like issues with God  and    issues with this patriarchal sort of system, and witchcraft    kind of became my way of surviving and protecting myself for a    long time, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>      Coby Michael [Courtesy]    <\/p>\n<p>    While witchcraft provided him with a sense of protection, it    naturally came with a cost within his community. You start to    get this constant demonization of, you know, witchcraft is    evil. You shouldnt be interested in spirits, thats bad, or    youre a sinner, and youre going to hell because you fall in    love with with guys. And you take so much emotional, psychic,    battering, and being as sensitive as I am, that at a certain    point, all of that just gets turned outward, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    So when he came upon maleficia, or the darker side of    magick and witchcraft, it felt empowering. Coby describes that    making people uncomfortable by demanding recognition and,    especially, not apologizing for it was essential.  <\/p>\n<p>    He was doing it to protect himself and the people he loves.  <\/p>\n<p>    Eventually, Coby moved to Florida and found a budding interest    in working with plants and herbs. Initially, I was more    interested in the folkloric associations. So I was still a    plant practitioner, I was still a green witch, but I was    drawing a lot of herbal folklore from different hoodoo and root    work sources when it came to gathering plant magic    correspondences. I just found the applications in those    practices to be a little bit more practical, he said. Books at    the time that he found were written from a more Wiccan    perspective lacked not only the baneful herbs but also would    usually omit or gloss over any hexing work that he wanted to    learn more about.  <\/p>\n<p>    Coby said that most of his training has come from book learning    and personal work but that he has taken some classes with    different herbal schools and academies. But it was when he    discovered what he described as 18th- and 19th-century herbals    that he was able to take his work with poisonous plants and    especially the nightshades to the next level.    [They] actually have formulations and dosages and diving into    some of the available information in the herbal pharmacopeia I    was able to kind of reverse engineer my own formulas for    creating things not necessarily for medicinal purposes, but    more for creating those altered states of consciousness, but    using the therapeutic dosages as kind of a safety zone to work    with them, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Coby mentioned that, from when he was just beginning his    journey, he discovered that, while still potentially deadly,    the nightshade family was a little more forgiving to work with.    He said that in spite of the dark reputation many of the plants    hold, theyve been an ally to humans both medicinally and    ritually for thousands of years.  <\/p>\n<p>    Among the many products that he makes, he also has a line of    flower essences. Flower essences are basically where the flower    of a certain plant is allowed to sit in a simple water solution    and the energetic resonance of the flower is imbued into the    water and then cut with alcohol as a preservative. No plant    material is in the flower essence, just the energy signature of    the plant. Most of Cobys own work with nightshades, he admits,    is meant to create physiological responses but he has found    that in spite of that, flower essences have shown up for him in    powerful ways when he needed healing support.    Working with the spirits of plants regularly, Coby identifies    as an animist. His experience with them comes through as a sort    of wordless transmission of information, that he finds    happens whether youre growing a plant, working with a flower    essence or even making a charm bag.  <\/p>\n<p>    Most think that you have to be a green thumb or actively sit in    the presence of a living plant to commune with its spirit but    thats not always possible, or desirable. Not everybody wants    to be a plant grower. For me, personally, Im more of a wild    grower, like I would much rather plant the plants outside and    let them do their own thing, he said.    Often, he said, the best way to work with the spirits of    baneful plants is in the same way we work with deities. While    we may have a representation of a god or goddess, we invite the    spirit of that deity to imbue their energy into that    representation. We can do the same with plant spirits, he said.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    So what Im coming to recently is trying to connect people    with the idea that plants like wolfsbane, mandrake, deadly    nightshade, they are such historical figures, they have such a    prominent role in plant history in medicine, and religion and    magic and all of these things theyve got these mythological    associations that we can trace back to their origin myths. And    so in a lot of ways, these low dose or power plants or master    plant spirits, whatever you want to call the poisonous plants,    they are a lot like deities, and were able to call those    spirits in, he said. In this way, we can summon the plant    spirit into our ritual spaces without requiring the living    plant itself to be present.  <\/p>\n<p>    Working with plant spirits, or spirits in general, can be    treacherous work that can lead to harm for yourself but    something not often considered is the harm that you can do to    the spirit by having a relationship based around extraction or    exploitation rather than mutual respect. Coby said that he sees    dangerous trends around the current psychedelic revolution or    renaissance in magickal as well as non-magickal communities.    And while he understands the desire to connect with something    larger than yourself or the desire to heal and expand    consciousness, there are some clear negatives.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think that there is a darker side to it, just the issue of    profitability and whos making the money? Wheres the money    going? The sustainability of the plants, but also the    traditions, the indigenous people, where are the plants coming    from? How are they being harvested, and, you know, there are    people doing Ayahuasca ceremonies in places that are thousands    of miles away from its homeland. And thats a plant that has    been in the same part of the world for millions and millions of    years, and really hasnt moved into other places, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Beyond those very real issues, he questions how much true    healing is coming through the plant medicine, versus giving the    consumer an afterglow effect that theyre misinterpreting. He    said, You sort of get this spiritual bypassing symptom where    now were not were not going to work on any of the childhood    trauma or the abusive relationship or you know what led to the    addiction in the first place, and instead find a sort of    brief, chemical tune-up.  <\/p>\n<p>    These are issues that are not easily unraveled, either. While    the ethical questions grow around sourcing and monetization of    what amounts to alternative treatments for mental health, its    hard to argue with someone who is experiencing real relief from    symptoms associated with PTSD, anxiety, or depression.  <\/p>\n<p>    At the moment, Coby worries about whats being left out of the    conversation. I think that the whole spiritual side of it kind    of gets forgotten.  <\/p>\n<p>    Coby Michaels book with Ivo Dominguez, Jr. and a number of    contributors, Leo Witch was recently released by    Llewellyn Worldwide and his book The Poison Path Herbal:    Baneful Herbs, Medicinal Nightshades, and Ritual    Entheogens is published by Simon & Schuster and available    wherever books are sold. His annual online conference,    Botanica Obscura, will be March 8  10.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the article here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/wildhunt.org\/2023\/10\/walking-the-poison-path-an-interview-with-coby-michael.html\" title=\"Walking the poison path: An interview with Coby Michael - The Wild Hunt\">Walking the poison path: An interview with Coby Michael - The Wild Hunt<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> TAMPA, Fla. Coby Michael is someone who isnt shy about discussing the path that he walks. 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