{"id":1118899,"date":"2023-10-27T07:30:13","date_gmt":"2023-10-27T11:30:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/the-supreme-court-is-seriously-considering-whether-domestic-vox-com\/"},"modified":"2023-10-27T07:30:13","modified_gmt":"2023-10-27T11:30:13","slug":"the-supreme-court-is-seriously-considering-whether-domestic-vox-com","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/second-amendment\/the-supreme-court-is-seriously-considering-whether-domestic-vox-com\/","title":{"rendered":"The Supreme Court is seriously considering whether domestic &#8230; &#8211; Vox.com"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    The next gun rights case before the Supreme    Court,     United States v. Rahimi, involves an individual    that no sensible society would allow to have a gun.  <\/p>\n<p>    Three years ago, according to the Justice Department, Zackey    Rahimi and his girlfriend had an argument in a parking lot    where Rahimi threatened to take away their mutual child. He    then allegedly grabbed her wrist, knocked her to the ground,    dragged her to the car, and hit her head on the dashboard.    After he realized that a witness had seen this fight, Rahimi    allegedly     pulled a gun and fired at this bystander.  <\/p>\n<p>    He later called his girlfriend and allegedly threatened to    shoot her if she told anyone that hed assaulted her.  <\/p>\n<p>    This is one of a series of gun crimes allegedly committed by    Rahimi. In 2020, he allegedly threatened another woman with a    gun. According to the Justice Department, Rahimi also    participated in a series of five shootings in December 2020 and    January 2021. In one alleged incident, he fired into the    mans house with an AR-15 rifle. In another, he allegedly    followed a truck and fired multiple shots at another car that    had been traveling behind the truck after the trucks driver    flashed their headlights at Rahimi.  <\/p>\n<p>    Although Rahimis lawyers     claim that these allegations are disputed, they do not    deny any of the DOJs specific claims. Nor do they offer an    alternative version of these events.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet last February, a federal appeals court held that Rahimi and    other domestic abusers     have a constitutional right to own a gun. The Supreme Court    will consider whether this decision was correct at a November 7    oral argument.  <\/p>\n<p>    The federal law at issue in Rahimi allows someone to    be disarmed before they are actually convicted of a violent    crime. But the law also     provides several due process safeguards.  <\/p>\n<p>    Before anyone can be disarmed under this law, a court must have    issued a restraining order against them, in a proceeding where    the defendant was given an opportunity to appear and make their    case. Federal law does not disarm anyone unless a court has    either explicitly determined that they are a violent threat to    their partner or to a child, or implicitly made such a    determination by prohibiting them from engaging in violence    against that partner or child.  <\/p>\n<p>    Nevertheless, the Fifth Circuit didnt just strike down this    law. It ruled that the law is unconstitutional on its face.    That means that, if the Fifth Circuits decision is upheld by    the Supreme Court, this federal ban on firearm possession by    domestic abusers may never be applied to any individual, no    matter how violent that individual may be and no matter how    careful the court that issued a restraining order against such    an individual was in ensuring that they received due process.  <\/p>\n<p>    And that brings us to the single worst aspect of the Fifth    Circuits decision in United    States v. Rahimi: It was correctly decided. Or, at    least, it was correctly decided under the Supreme Courts    incompetently drafted decision in     New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen    (2022), which places an     extraordinarily high burden on any government lawyer tasked    with defending any gun law in court.  <\/p>\n<p>    Bruen was supposed to be the crown jewel of    originalism  the belief, now     ascendant among Republican lawyers and judges, that the    only legitimate way to read the Constitution is to determine    how it was understood when it was ratified. The Bruen    opinion was the six GOP-appointed justices attempt to build an    originalist framework from the ground up, one that forced    judges to rely almost entirely on historical sources when    deciding Second Amendment cases.  <\/p>\n<p>    A little more than a year after Bruen, it is clear    that this approach is an unworkable failure that produces    deeply immoral outcomes and that has fostered mass confusion    within the federal judiciary.  <\/p>\n<p>    The core question in Rahimi, in other words, is    whether the Court will back away from its decision in    Bruen, which has led to all kinds of disastrous    results, including the Fifth Circuits decision holding that    abusive husbands have a right to keep a weapon they could use    to murder their wives.  <\/p>\n<p>    Bruen held that, in order to justify nearly any law    regulating firearms, the government must demonstrate that the    regulation is consistent    with this Nations historical tradition of firearm    regulation. This means that lawyers defending even the    most widely accepted gun laws, such as the federal ban on gun    possession by domestic abusers, must show that analogous    regulations also existed and were accepted when the    Constitution was framed  particularly if the law addresses a    general societal problem that has persisted since the 18th    century. If they cannot, the challenged gun law must be struck    down.  <\/p>\n<p>    This places an extraordinarily high burden on any lawyer    defending a gun law. When the     historical record is ambiguous or indeterminate, the    government loses, and a gun law is effectively repealed by the    courts. And lawyers defending gun laws face an especially heavy    burden when they defend laws that seek to address a problem,    like domestic abuse, that has existed for centuries.  <\/p>\n<p>    Almost immediately, the Bruen decision     sparked mass confusion in the federal courts. Judges have    reached     contradictory results in a multitude of post-Bruen    challenges to gun laws. Courts applying Bruen have    struck laws     prohibiting guns in places of worship,     requiring guns to have serial numbers that allow them to be    tracked by law enforcement, and prohibiting     underage ownership of guns  all claiming that these laws    are inconsistent with historical tradition.  <\/p>\n<p>    And if Bruen is legitimate, Zackey Rahimi must have a    constitutional right to own a gun.  <\/p>\n<p>    Until    1871, when the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that     a husband and wife may be indicted for assault and battery    upon each other, it was legal in every state for married    partners to beat their spouses. There is historical evidence    that abused women, in at least some parts of the country, were    able to    obtain court orders requiring their abusers to temporarily    turn over money, which would be forfeited if the abuse    continued. But there is no founding-era analog to the federal    law disarming domestic abusers.  <\/p>\n<p>    And so the question the Supreme Court must confront in    Rahimi is whether a decision like Bruen, with    its unworkable legal standard and catastrophic consequences,    can be tolerated any longer.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the day Bruen was decided, Justice Stephen Breyer warned in a    dissenting opinion that, by requiring judges to dive into    often-vague and indeterminate historical records,    Bruen imposes    a task on the lower courts that judges cannot easily    accomplish. Courts are, after all, staffed by lawyers,    not historians, Breyer continued. And legal experts typically    have little experience answering contested historical questions    or applying those answers to resolve contemporary problems.  <\/p>\n<p>    Indeed, Bruen has proved so unworkable  and has led    so many judges to such upsetting conclusions  that many of    those judges complain openly about it in their opinions. By    announcing an inconsistent and amorphous standard, complained    Judge Holly Brady, a Trump appointee to a federal court in    Indiana, the Supreme Court has created mountains of work for    district courts that must now deal with Bruen-related    arguments in nearly every criminal case in which a firearm    is found. Another judge slammed the Supreme Courts Second    Amendment cases as filled with methodological flaws that    invite judges with an axe to grind to     selectively find historical evidence that supports the    outcome they want to reach anyway, and then use it to justify    that result.  <\/p>\n<p>    Judge Robert Miller, a Reagan appointee, was even more blunt in    his assessment of Bruen. After holding that a federal    law that prohibits    individuals from receiving a firearm while they are under a    felony indictment must be struck down under Bruen,    Miller concludes his opinion by admitting it was drafted with    an earnest hope that its author has misunderstood New York    State Rifle v. Bruen. Bruen, Judge Miller    continues,     insults the framers by assuming they were so    short-sighted as to forbid the people, through their elected    representatives, from regulating guns in new ways.  <\/p>\n<p>    Needless to say, sitting federal judges do not typically hurl    these kinds of insults at the Supreme Court, as the high Court    has more or less unlimited power to sabotage lower court    judges work.  <\/p>\n<p>    One fundamental problem with Bruen, as Judge Millers    critique of the decision emphasizes, is that the six    Republican-appointed justices who joined it appear to have no    understanding of why changes in American society over the past    250 years make it difficult or impossible to draw meaningful    analogies between modern gun laws and those that existed when    the Constitution was written.  <\/p>\n<p>    Recall that Justice Clarence Thomass majority opinion in    Bruen announced that gun laws that address a general    societal problem that has persisted since the 18th century    are presumptively unconstitutional unless there is a    distinctly similar historical regulation from the 1700s.    Applying this newly announced rule, Thomas argued that a    citywide handgun ban is unconstitutional because firearm    violence in densely populated communities was a problem that    existed at the time of the founding, but 18th-century lawmakers    did not address it with a handgun ban.  <\/p>\n<p>    But the kind of urban communities that exist in modern-day    America did not exist in the early American Republic. According    to the 1790 census,     New York City had only 33,131 residents around the time    when the Second Amendment was ratified. The second-largest    city, Philadelphia, had     fewer than 29,000 residents.  <\/p>\n<p>    Eighteenth-century lawmakers, in other words, simply did not    confront the problem of firearm violence in densely populated    communities because densely populated communities of the kind    that struggle with gun violence in modern-day America did not exist    in the 18th century. At the time of the founding, Americas    largest city had     more or less the same population as modern-day Meridian,    Mississippi  the eighth-largest city in the poorest state    in the Union.  <\/p>\n<p>    And yet, because the Supreme Court declared in a majority    opinion that urban policymaking in 1790 was closely analogous    to governing modern-day New York City, every judge in the    country is now bound to follow this absurd conclusion.  <\/p>\n<p>    Meanwhile, there are countless other ways that America in the    21st century would be unrecognizable to the framers.  <\/p>\n<p>    For one thing, early America did not have police forces  or,    at least, the kind of organized police forces that could    enforce modern-day gun laws. While early US communities    sometimes relied on citizen watchmen to keep the peace and    used     patrols to track down escaped enslaved people, publicly    funded and organized police forces did not emerge until the    middle of the 19th century. Many sources claim that the first    such police force in the United States was formed in    Boston in 1838. New York City     formed its police force just a few years later.  <\/p>\n<p>    When the Second Amendment was added to the Constitution in    1791, in other words, neither the United States nor any state    or municipality had the capacity to enforce a law seeking to    disarm domestic abusers. But that doesnt mean that such laws    should be declared unconstitutional, any more than modern-day    laws regulating the internet are unconstitutional because the    framers lacked the ability to send electronic communications.  <\/p>\n<p>    We simply have no idea how people in 1791 would have regulated    guns  or what sort of regulations they would have deemed    permissible  if early Americans actually had the state    infrastructure necessary to do modern-day law enforcement.    Bruens inquiry into which kinds of laws existed in a    pre-police society tells us nothing about which sort of laws    the framers would have deemed constitutional.  <\/p>\n<p>    Similarly, we have no idea how early American lawmakers would    have regulated the kind of advanced weapons that are widely    available today, but that did not exist at all  or that were    at least very uncommon  when the Second Amendment was    ratified.  <\/p>\n<p>    Indeed, the sorts of firearms that were widely available in the    18th century are not the sort of weapons that were typically    used to commit acts of violence against family members or    romantic partners. As Ohio State University historian Randolph    Roth explained in a     2019 book chapter, fewer than 10 percent of household    homicides in colonial and revolutionary New England or    Maryland were committed with a gun.  <\/p>\n<p>    The most likely reason why 18th-century firearms were not often    used in family violence is that the kind of muzzle-loading guns    that were available at the time could not be used impulsively    unless they were already loaded for some other purpose. These    guns could not be kept loaded because the black powder used by    these guns would corrode the weapons inner workings and would    become moist, losing its ability to ignite. Loading such a gun    took at least a minute, as the user had to pour powder down    the barrel, hold it in place with wadding, and drop or ram the    shot or ball onto the charge.  <\/p>\n<p>    So one other likely reason why 18th-century Americans did not    enact many of the sort of gun laws that exist today is that    guns were fundamentally less dangerous in the early Republic.    The fact that early Americans did not forbid impulsive men     the sort of men who might murder their wives  from owning a    muzzle-loading musket tells us nothing about how the framers    might have regulated a weapon that can be stored while loaded,    that can be hidden in someones pocket or waistband, and that    can rapidly discharge more than a dozen bullets.  <\/p>\n<p>    In fairness, Bruen does acknowledge that cases    involving dramatic technological changes may require a more    nuanced approach, and it does include language indicating    that, say, machine gun bans remain viable, even though machine    guns were not invented until 1884. Bruen says that    the Second Amendment protects the possession and use of    weapons that are in    common use at the time. So machine guns will remain    illegal so long as they remain uncommon.  <\/p>\n<p>    But the fact that the drafters and ratifiers of the Second    Amendment were comfortable living in a world where    muzzle-loaded muskets were commonplace tells us nothing about    whether they would have also wanted the Constitution to protect    weapons that can be carried while loaded and that can turn a    mere argument into a murder in less than a second.  <\/p>\n<p>    At this point, you might be wondering how six Supreme Court    justices  all of them legally trained and well-credentialed     could have embraced a legal framework with such obvious flaws    that has been so harshly criticized by judges across the    political spectrum. The short answer to this question is one    word: originalism.  <\/p>\n<p>    Originalism, in     Justice Amy Coney Barretts words, is the belief that    constitutional text means what it did at the time it was    ratified and that this original public meaning is    authoritative. All reasonable judges believe that it is    sometimes useful to inquire into how the Constitution was    originally understood in order to decide cases, but    originalism, at least in its strongest form, claims that this    is the only legitimate way to interpret the Constitution.  <\/p>\n<p>    Many Republican lawyers, including Thomas, Justice Neil    Gorsuch, and Barrett,     view originalism as an important part of their identity.  <\/p>\n<p>    Barrett, at least, also acknowledges two serious problems with    the originalist methodology: It sometimes leads to terrible or    ridiculous results, and it sometimes produces no result at all.    As Barrett wrote in a 2016 article co-authored with scholar    John Copeland Nagle, adherence to originalism arguably    requires, for example,     the dismantling of the administrative state, the invalidation    of paper money, and the reversal of Brown v. Board of    Education  results that, Barrett admits, would    wreak havoc.  <\/p>\n<p>    Similarly, Barrett has also acknowledged that originalist    methods dont always produce a clear result, although her    answer to how originalists should approach this problem is    unsatisfying: For an originalist, the meaning of the text is    fixed     so long as it is discoverable.  <\/p>\n<p>    Justice Thomass biggest innovation in his Bruen    opinion is that he figured out a way for originalists to    resolve Second Amendment cases even when it is not clear how    that amendment would have been understood at the time it was    ratified  simply apply a presumption that all gun laws are    unconstitutional, and strike down the law unless the government    produces sufficient historical evidence to rebut this    presumption.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thomass innovation makes a lot of sense if you are an    originalist judge who wants to solve the problem of not knowing    how to rule on a case if the historical record is indeterminate     provided, of course, that you dont care one bit what happens    to the people of the United States after countless gun laws are    struck down. But Bruen does nothing to solve the other    problem acknowledged by Barretts scholarship: What should an    originalist do if their methodology leads to a truly awful and    destabilizing result?  <\/p>\n<p>    A responsible Court would confess that it erred in    Bruen and come up with a new framework that can be    applied in a sensible and predictable way by lower court    judges. (As it happens, in the decade before Bruen,    lower court judges came up with a     two-step framework for deciding Second Amendment cases that    was accepted by every federal appeals court that considered it.    The Supreme Court could simply bring that framework back.)  <\/p>\n<p>    And there is a precedent for the Court swiftly abandoning a    disastrous legal framework after a majority of the justices    realized it led to disaster.  <\/p>\n<p>    In Minersville    School District v. Gobitis (1940), the Supreme Court    upheld a public school districts decision to expel two    students who refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance in class     the students were Jehovahs Witnesses, and they objected to    saying the pledge on religious grounds. Almost immediately    after it was handed down, the Gobitis decision    triggered a wave of hate crimes against Witnesses, with one    Southern sheriff dismissing the violence because theyre    traitors  the Supreme Court says so, aint you heard?  <\/p>\n<p>    Three years later, in West    Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943),    a humbled Court reversed course, holding that the First    Amendment forbids the government from forcing anyone to say    something they do not want to say.  <\/p>\n<p>    Will todays justices show the same humility their predecessors    showed in Barnette? Unlikely. But there is a way out    of the Bruen dilemma that will allow the six justices    who joined that benighted decision to save face, while    affirming that the government may enact reasonable gun    regulations such as a ban on gun possession by domestic    abusers.  <\/p>\n<p>    Although Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh    both joined Thomass opinion in Bruen, they also    joined a separate concurring opinion by Kavanaugh, which    enumerated several categorical    exceptions to the right to bear arms:  <\/p>\n<p>      [N]othing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on      longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by      felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying      of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and      government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and      qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. ...    <\/p>\n<p>      We also recognize another important limitation on the right      to keep and carry arms. Miller said, as we have      explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those in      common use at the time. We think that limitation is fairly      supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the      carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.    <\/p>\n<p>    Kavanaugh added, moreover, that this list does not purport to    be exhaustive, which implies that he would also endorse other    categorical exceptions  perhaps one for domestic abusers, or    for people that the legislature has determined are too    dangerous to be armed.  <\/p>\n<p>    This list of Second Amendment carve-outs, moreover, appeared in    the Supreme Courts decision in District    of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Courts first    decision holding that the Constitution protects an individual    right to bear arms. And these carve-outs were not added to the    Heller opinion because the Court determined that they    fit into some kind of originalist framework.  <\/p>\n<p>    Rather, as Justice John Paul Stevens revealed less than a year    before his death in 2019, Justice Antonin Scalia, the author of    Heller, added this language after relatively moderate        Justice Anthony Kennedy asked for some important changes    to the original draft of the Heller opinion.  <\/p>\n<p>    Kennedy is no longer on the Court, but Kavanaugh, his    successor, appears to have appointed himself as the keeper of    this compromise that Kennedy struck with Scalia. Add on    Robertss decision to join Kavanaughs Bruen opinion,    plus the Courts three liberals, and thats five votes that are    willing to create categorical carve-outs to the right to bear    arms which exist outside of Thomass originalist framework.  <\/p>\n<p>    Moreover, while Thomass framework supports the Fifth Circuits    unconscionable decision in Rahimi, Kavanaughs    framework offers the Court a way to rule that domestic abusers    do not have a constitutional right to own a gun. As the Justice    Department argues in its brief, the Court can add a new    carve-out to Kavanaughs list, holding that the Second    Amendment permits lawmakers to disarm people who are not    law-abiding, responsible citizens.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thats not a particularly satisfying answer to the legal    questions presented by Rahimi because it places the    Court in the role of an arbitrary policymaker, striking down    some gun laws and upholding others because five or more    justices think that a new carve-out should apply. But its a    much more sensible outcome than affirming the Fifth Circuit and    allowing abusers to have guns.  <\/p>\n<p>    The most responsible course the Supreme Court could take, given    Bruens many flaws, would be to overrule that decision    in its entirety and announce a different, more workable    framework that courts can apply in future Second Amendment    cases  such as the     two-step framework that was used by the courts of appeals    before the Supreme Court made them abandon that framework in    Bruen.  <\/p>\n<p>    But, since this Supreme Court is unlikely to admit that it    erred, Kavanaughs willingness to create categorical exceptions    to the right to bear arms offers the Court a way to save face    while also reversing the Fifth Circuits terrible    Rahimi decision.  <\/p>\n<p>                Will you support Voxs explanatory journalism?      <\/p>\n<p>        Most news outlets make their money through advertising or        subscriptions. 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