{"id":1118799,"date":"2023-10-23T22:45:12","date_gmt":"2023-10-24T02:45:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/decadence-sickness-and-death-mourning-and-the-israel-hamas-religion-dispatches\/"},"modified":"2023-10-23T22:45:12","modified_gmt":"2023-10-24T02:45:12","slug":"decadence-sickness-and-death-mourning-and-the-israel-hamas-religion-dispatches","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/survivalism\/decadence-sickness-and-death-mourning-and-the-israel-hamas-religion-dispatches\/","title":{"rendered":"Decadence, Sickness, and Death: Mourning and the Israel-Hamas &#8230; &#8211; Religion Dispatches"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Irving (Yitz) Greenberg once said about talking or    writing about the Holocaust, Dont say anything that you    wouldnt say in front of burning children. Its an ominous    comment, emotionally charged, and deeply felt. But as Michael    Wyschogrod once said to me, referring to this comment, Yitz    then wrote hundreds of pages about the Holocaust. Yitz did so,    I assume, because he couldnt stay silent, even as he advocated    silence. I say this not to compare the Holocaust in any way to    the atrocity of October 7th, for which there is no comparison,    but only to express the anguish and pain of what one cannot do,    and at the same time, in that same moment, what one    cannot not do. I now    understand Yitzs choice.  <\/p>\n<p>    Words of comfort    (nechama) are permitted, even    welcomed. But any attempt at reflection or analysis; any    attempt to insert contextanything    suggesting that, as horrible as October 7th was, it didnt    begin on October 7th; that, like    every human atrocity, it too has a    historyis met with raging    accusations of justification. But of course, October 7th is not    the beginning, nor the end, but as with most things, somewhere    in the horrifying middle. Maybe the accusation of justification    is inevitable and thus any writing that moves outside pure    comfort can only be written against the forceful tide of    condemnation.  <\/p>\n<p>    I will not justify a massacre, in any form. But I will    not justify viewing a massacre as if it happened in a vacuum,    either. I am no martyr, nor do I aspire to be one. I am a Jew,    a Jew in pain and mourning with my people and for my people,    but I cannot step away, I cannot be silent, and I cannot offer    only comfort, even as the riptide of collective emotion compels    me to do so. Or perhaps, I choose not to.  <\/p>\n<p>    October 7th was an atrocity of unspeakable magnitude and    brutality for which there is no justification. But it was even    more than that, if something can even be more than that. It    jolted two peoples, Israelis and Palestinians, already both in    states of internal crisis, into a new state of crisis.    Atrocities of this magnitude, and the retribution that has and    will follow, are not limited to the human pain they produce,    but can also break a societyboth the    perpetrators and the victimsinto    pieces.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hamas and its supporters think the attack was justified.    I think they are wrong. Many in Israel and its supporters think    that the attack was sui generis    and thus any response, however brutal, however bloody and    rooted in vengeance, is not only justified, but necessary. I    think they are wrong. But I prefer to focus on the brokenness    of both sides; not only broken by one another, but broken to    themselves.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its well-known within the Jewish tradition that one    should not rebuke the Jewish people at a time when they are in    danger. Rather, say the sources, the only thing one can do is    pray for their safety and protect ones life and property. I    agree. But today, praying for the Jewish people also requires    praying for innocent Palestinian people. Not only because its    the right thing to do, but also because, in the intricate web    that is the state of Israel, or Palestine, the well-being of    one is dependent on the well-being of the other.  <\/p>\n<p>    I stand in solidarity with my people. But I do not    condemn the Palestinian people. I only ask that we view this    tragedy as an event that has broken both sides, all sides, in    unprecedented waysnot because the act has any equivalence, but    because the long-standing deteriorated relationship that    precedes it has left both sides weakened, vulnerable, and    susceptible to a tragedy that has no justification. But that,    of course, doesnt mean that it has no    explanation.  <\/p>\n<p>    Responsibility isnt guiltbut neither is it    innocence  <\/p>\n<p>    The great poet and politician Aim Csaire begins his    short but powerful work Discourse on    Colonialism with the following lines:  <\/p>\n<p>      A civilization that proves incapable of solving the      problems it creates is a decadent civilization.    <\/p>\n<p>      A civilization that chooses to close its eyes to its      most crucial problems is a sick civilization.    <\/p>\n<p>      A civilization that plays fast and loose with its      principles is a dying civilization.    <\/p>\n<p>    Decadent, sick, and dying. We are witnessing all three in    real time. It is not a comparison to say, nor a moral    equivalence to suggest (nor is it blasphemous to imply), that    in different ways, very different ways, this is true of both    sides of the conflict.  <\/p>\n<p>    The head of the IDF     stated that Gaza will never be the    same. What they did not state, but which is equally true, is    that Israel will never be the same. I do not argue that both    are in crisis in order to draw equivalence where there is none,    but to try to interrogate some of the contours of both sides    under the rubric of Csaires framing of    civilization.  <\/p>\n<p>    The horrific brutality and unjustifiable butchery of    Hamason any    termsis unquestionable and    irrefutable. I have no idea how one can dehumanize the other to    the extent that they can slaughter them in their homes. Yes, we    human beings have done this before, many times, but it is still    unfathomable.  <\/p>\n<p>    Having said that, nothing exists in a vacuum, all human    endeavors have context, and to deny that is itself an act of    dehumanization. The problem here is that there is almost no    space between explanation and    justificationon either side. One is    thus being forced to choose sides and express empathy only for    one. Any gesture of empathy for innocents on the other    side quickly evokes the accusation of moral equivalency at the    very leastself-hatred and treason at    most.  <\/p>\n<p>    So it must be said, decades of humiliation, domination,    and the deaths of many men, women and children, must be part of    the equation of mourning. Because innocents die at the hands of    terrorists does not by extension mean that we are all innocent.    As Abraham Joshua Heschel said regarding Vietnam, in a free    society, some are guilty but all are responsible.    Responsibility isnt guilt. But neither is it innocence.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the aftermath of the events of October 7, both Israeli    and Palestinian societies were thrown into a new state of    crisis. Israel was already in a state of internal crisis around    questions of democracy, as the unprecedented protests have    shown. And Palestinians were also in a state of crisis over        their unwillingness, or inability, to recognize that armed    resistance will not achieve the goals they justifiably seek:    the right of national determination. But on October 7    things were put into an entirely different register.    Hamas brutal attack demonstrated that, although the    organization may have formally amended its call for Israels    destruction, it continues to assert that Israel    has no right to exist in this region. And in    doing so, it sows the seeds of its own destruction.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the other side, on October 7 the last vestige of    Israels myth of invincibility was shattered as a result of its    failed intelligence and tragically slow response, resulting in    many more deaths than there otherwise might have been. And many    Israelis felt that they were no longer safe within the borders    of their own countryprecisely what    Zionism sought to address. No doubt Israel will continue to    respond with terrifying force. But that force will not    reinstate Israels invincibility. That, Im afraid, has been    lost. Theres no moral equivalency here: Hamas attacked Israel.    But the result of that attack changed    both.A civilization that proves incapable    of solving the problems it creates is a decadent    civilization.  <\/p>\n<p>    We can see this in the Hamas incursion. There was no    human mechanism to contain the violence that exploded there. It    was human beings at their most carnal selves. How does someone    dehumanize the other enough to slaughter them with no guilt?    Perhaps its only possible if one is in a state where all    external constraints vanish. When life becomes a video game.    And while the barbarism we witnessed is unimaginable, the    killing of civilians by Israels stealth weapons is still    barbaric and dehumanizing, just as the lesser of two evils is    still evil. Yes, Hamass hatred existed before, no doubt, and I    dont mean to take away agency (and therefore responsibility)    from the actors. But still. There was something unleashed in    those who acted as they did, something collapsed in the very    core of humanity, and some dangerous part of the human    condition emerged unchecked by anything that could restrain    it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its no accident that this happened in the midst of    probably the largest internal crisis in Israels history.    Something in the elections and resulting protest movement    opened a fissure in Israeli culture and society that previously    existed largely underground. In some way, I think the entire    Zionist project was on trial. Jewish and democratic, labels    only attached to Israel in the 1980s, were always fragile and    precarious. What is Jewish? And democratic for everyone,    equallyreally? And so it went. But    the dam mostly held. Until earlier this year when a newly    energized far-right government decided to fortify its power by    weakening its great liberal challenge, the Supreme Court. And    the country exploded.  <\/p>\n<p>    The breach of the populations trust in its government,    the settler narrative becoming the narrative of the country,    and many Israelis simply getting sick and tired of the    occupation (to say nothing of the secular\/religious divide),    put Israel in a place where various sets of interlocking    problems threatened to paralyze the country, all the while    believing Hamas was not an imminent threat. And then the    problem that Israel didnt even think was such a problem    suddenly burst into the world and stuck a dagger in its    heart.A civilization that proves    incapable of solving the problems it creates is a decadent    civilization.  <\/p>\n<p>    Theres often talk of Hamas as being in a death spiral.    I dont think thats true. I think Hamas has a different    definition of what it is to win and to lose. In a 2012    documentary called The    Gatekeepers, former head of Shin Bet Ami    Ayalon tells a great    story about talking with a Palestinian    acquaintance at a meeting in London in 2002, right in the    middle of the Second Intifada:  <\/p>\n<p>      At some point, I was making myself a cup of coffee      and I was approached by a Palestinian acquaintance named wad      Satay, a Doctor of Psychiatry. He said, Ami, we finally      defeated you.    <\/p>\n<p>      I said to him, Are you mad? What do you mean,      defeated us? Hundreds of youare      getting killed. At this rate thousands of you will get      killed. Youre about to lose whatever tiny bit of a state you      have and youll lose your dream of statehood. What kind of      victory is that?    <\/p>\n<p>      He said to me, Ami, I dont understand you. You      still dontunderstand us. For us,      victory is seeing you suffer. Thats all we want. The more we      suffer, the more youll      suffer.    <\/p>\n<p>    Ayalon understood something about the Palestinian    resistance that he hadnt before. Israel is entering a stage    where its remaining founders are few. A second and third    generation Israeli society is living in a first world country.    It has accomplished an enormous amount in a short time. But the    Arab Question or the Palestinian Problem as it used to be    called, remains. And given Israels political inclinations,    its becoming less relevant because the Right has essentially    crushed Palestinian aspirations, or pushed them to a breaking    point. It wrongly thinks the Palestinians will be wrestled into    submission. That they will give up. But zero-sum games are    rarely successful as long as people remain alive (which may be    why many observers,     Israeli scholars among them, believe the    government is threatening genocide).  <\/p>\n<p>    Yad Vashem with an air force  <\/p>\n<p>    And thats not all. Theres something that continues to    haunt Israels collective psyche, so to speak; its    unwillingness to abandon the position of victimhood, despite    its tremendous power and years of sovereignty. This is    certainly understandable in this moment of crisis. I ask,    however, echoing Hannah Arendts skepticism over the potential    for a state founded in the shadow of the Holocaust, whether    its constructive toward a productive Jewish future. This comes    to the fore most alarmingly in the use of Holocaust analogies.    The swiftness with which the Holocaust was invoked to describe    the atrocities was both shocking and totally predictable. It    was also wrong.  <\/p>\n<p>    Nazi Germany was a country with an army, a police, and an    economy. Hamas is a violent terrorist organization born in    occupation with no formal military and relatively few    resources. Israel is a first-world country with a high-powered    military and nuclear weapons. Even if they were brutally    victimized, Israelis in Tel Aviv are not the Jews in the Warsaw    Ghetto and theyre not living in concentration camps. Holocaust    parallels only illustrate the extent to which Zionism is in a    deep crisis of identity.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thomas Friedman famously claimed Israel had become, or is    susceptible to become, Yad Vashem with an air force. He was    criticized, and the remark was overly provocative, but when one    hears Israels     president and prime    minister openly make Holocaust comparisons,    they simply affirm Friedmans remark. The problem with the    comparison is that it flattens everything down to survivalism;    and when you have a gun to your head you have no moral    obligations. None.  <\/p>\n<p>    So when Israels defense minister     declared I have released all the    restraints [on soldiers entering Gaza], I wondered    what that could mean. Executions?    Liquidation of civilian homes? No one yet knows    the full extent. But we will. Thats what survivalism produces.    So both sides claim theyre fighting for survival;    not victory, not deterrence, not even security,    but survival.A civilization that chooses    to close its eyes to its most crucial problems is a sick    civilization.  <\/p>\n<p>    Shooting and crying  <\/p>\n<p>    But what about dying? Arent all civilizations slowly    dying? Perhaps, but playing fast and loose with    ones principles just expedites the process.    And dont all societies play fast and loose with their    principles? Indeed, it was the Golda Meir character in    Munich who said, Every civilization    finds it necessary to negotiate compromises with its own    values.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hasan al-Banah founded the Muslim brotherhood in the    1920s as a protest against British colonialism with the saying    Islam is the answer. But what happened to Hamas early    commitment to fight corruption, to provide social services to    its people, like soup kitchens, medical care, etc.? It was    founded to undermine the corrupt PLO, which it very likely has    done, but its commitment to commit acts of terror threaten its    people, undermined its social vision. In that sense, it seems    to have largely abandoned its people who are now refugees from    their homes in an open-air prison. Doubly displaced. but it    seems to me something inside Hamas has died because its lost    contact with many of its principles and substituted    unadulterated hatred in its place. Destroying Israel, itself an    impossible task, became more important than feeding its people,    which is a more realizable goal, or even seeking a viable path    to liberation.  <\/p>\n<p>    Like many (maybe all) countries, Israel is accountable    for being fast and loose with its    principles too. A society founded on the    principles of solidarity and cooperation, a social safety net,    and the aspiration to be the most moral army in the world.    Remember the old IDF adage shooting and crying,    (yorim u bokim) to illustrate    the necessity of war and the moral conscience that remains. A    democracy, albeit flawed, but one that included a meaningful    movement with a sincere belief that coexistence was    possible.  <\/p>\n<p>    Peace Now, founded in 1978 to promote a genuine and just    peace between Israel and Palestine, was a real, forceful    movement in the 1980s, with some political power. No more. In    fact, its todays protest movement, a mostly centrist    movement, thats taught us that Israel has transformed into a    more ethnocentric, illiberal, even autocratic, right-wing    society. Many are against this, but the mere fact that they are    means that its real. As Alon Pinkus wrote     in his open letter to American rabbis    before Yom Yippur, The Israel you thought you knew is a relic    of the past.A civilization that plays    fast and loose with its principles is a dying    civilization.  <\/p>\n<p>    One can say this about many, maybe even all,    countriesthough each in a different    way. But viewing how it becomes manifest in a particular    situation, in context, in    situ, can be helpful. I ask those who    are in any way justifying Hamas actions: setting aside the    legality or morality of Israels methods, what country would    not be shocked and traumatized, and react with force, by such    barbarism perpetrated against its citizens? And I ask those who    refuse to see any culpability by Israel: Gaza is also a society    in trauma, where almost every single family has had a family    member killed or imprisoned by Israela territory under a    16-year siege. Decades of humiliation, domination, and    inequality. Not to justify, but to recognize.  <\/p>\n<p>    Israel is mourning the deaths of its loved ones, innocent    civilians brutally murdered thinking they were safe in their    homes in their own state. Palestinian civilians are also    mourning their loved ones, victims of retribution, trapped in a    world from which they cannot easily escape. No moral    equivalency here: people need to mourn their dead.  <\/p>\n<p>    And what about those of us who, like it or not, have to    find a way to live on this planet together? 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