{"id":1118599,"date":"2023-10-16T06:41:46","date_gmt":"2023-10-16T10:41:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/freedom-of-speech-or-lack-of-civility-resident-perturbed-by-others-berating-killeen-city-council-and-mayor-the-killeen-daily-herald\/"},"modified":"2023-10-16T06:41:46","modified_gmt":"2023-10-16T10:41:46","slug":"freedom-of-speech-or-lack-of-civility-resident-perturbed-by-others-berating-killeen-city-council-and-mayor-the-killeen-daily-herald","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/freedom-of-speech\/freedom-of-speech-or-lack-of-civility-resident-perturbed-by-others-berating-killeen-city-council-and-mayor-the-killeen-daily-herald\/","title":{"rendered":"Freedom of speech or lack of civility? Resident perturbed by others berating Killeen City Council and mayor &#8211; The Killeen Daily Herald"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      Bill Paquette is a staple at the Killeen City Council      meetings. Nearly every Tuesday, he sits in the front row      before the dais and listens to what happens in the council      meeting. He said he has been doing this for 7 years.    <\/p>\n<p>      Last week, the Killeen resident wrote a letter to the editor      in the Herald praising the City Council and Mayor Debbie      Nash-King for the job they were doing.    <\/p>\n<p>      As far as Im concerned, our current City Council is the      best Ive seen in the years that Ive attended meetings,      wrote Paquette, at 65-year-old retiree.    <\/p>\n<p>      But Paquette also decried some of what he perceived as      individuals berating the council and mayor during the      meetings.    <\/p>\n<p>      Some national organizations, and the Killeen mayor, say      harassment toward local government officials has increased in      recent years.    <\/p>\n<p>      Many local officials indicated an uptick in harassment,      threats and violence over the course of their time in office,      but this behavior has dramatically worsened since the start      of the pandemic, according to a report from the National      League of Cities. City officials find themselves having to      walk a balance between freedom of speech and harassment.    <\/p>\n<p>      Paquette said he has signed up to talk about this issue at      Tuesdays council meeting, specifically mentioned Michael      Fornino and former Councilwoman Mellisa Brown as being people      who disrupt the council meeting.    <\/p>\n<p>      But Brown and Fornino both believe they are simply exercising      their freedom of speech and some council members appear to      agree with them.    <\/p>\n<p>      Paquette said he witnessed Fornino shouting at City Manager      Kent Cagle from across the parking lot after a meeting a      couple of weeks ago.    <\/p>\n<p>      Totally uncalled for, Paquette said. If he was in school,      he would be a school bully and thats what he was.    <\/p>\n<p>      Fornino, who has sarcastically referred to council members as      kings and queens, often verbally attacks Cagle during      meetings. He has sent emails to the Herald saying he asked      Cagle to meet with him and accusing the city manager of      making a false accusation that he threatened his family.    <\/p>\n<p>      Paquette said he had conversations with Fornino about his      conduct during the meeting.    <\/p>\n<p>      I told him when youre calm and collected and you address      the council, you actually make a lot of sense, Paquette      said.    <\/p>\n<p>      He said Fornino told him that nobody would listen unless he      talks like that.    <\/p>\n<p>      Fornino played a big part in an incident involving former      Councilman Ken Wilkerson in April after he connected the      councilman to a shooting at Fort Cavazos. Moments later,      during the meeting, Wilkerson left the dais and followed      Fornino to the back of the legislative chamber and confronted      him while police and others tried to keep them separated.    <\/p>\n<p>      Wilkerson resigned weeks later for different reasons, he      said,    <\/p>\n<p>      Fornino, contacted last week, said it isnt wrong for him to      get riled up during public comments.    <\/p>\n<p>      Why shouldnt I get riled up? Its suddenly a crime or a      sin to challenge government when they are clearly ...      blatantly in the wrong? he said in an email Friday.  Ive      tried polite. Gets nowhere. Present information and      evidence on things, and our Council does nothing. The fact      that I dont simply comply and genuflect seems to upset the      desired status quo.    <\/p>\n<p>      He confirmed that he did yell things at Cagle a few weeks      ago. He claims Cagle wont engage with him in an official      context because of an alleged threat against his family      members by Fornino  something which Fornino strongly denies.    <\/p>\n<p>      He said if the threat actually happened, the Killeen Police      Department wouldve been involved.    <\/p>\n<p>      He also mentioned an incident last month where he said      Nash-King called over police to stand in front of the dais      after Fornino started shouting at Councilman Jose Segarra,      the mayor and Cagle.    <\/p>\n<p>          Resident Michael Fornino          is blocked by Killeen police after berating several          council members, the mayor and the city manager at a          recent meeting.        <\/p>\n<p>      That same night, Fornino cursed at the council in Italian      during a public comment portion of the meeting.    <\/p>\n<p>      Fornino is adamant he has never crossed a line, and said all      of his words to Killeen leaders have been within his free      speech rights. However, there are limits, he said.    <\/p>\n<p>      There are limits to free speech. If anyone got up at the      podium calling for violence, destruction, etc.  absolutely      not allowed or covered by 1st Amendment. Everything else is      protected under the 1st Amendment, which supersedes any      little ordinance, rule, or memo hung on the fridge in the      break room at City Hall, Fornino said.    <\/p>\n<p>      Paquette also criticized Brown, who speaks during public      comments at almost every council meeting.    <\/p>\n<p>      Brown doesnt typically name call and is generally more      reserved, but Paquette said she likes to hear the sound of      her own voice and has no regard for anyone else.    <\/p>\n<p>      And shes been removed not once but twice. She would say the      last one doesnt count because shes allowed back in,      Paquette said. They need to stay removed otherwise theyre      not going to learn from their experience.    <\/p>\n<p>      Brown was removed in May for shouting during the meeting.      However, she was later allowed to return. She was arrested in      2018 for allegedly disrupting a meeting.    <\/p>\n<p>      Brown, in an email to the Herald Thursday, acknowledged that      she was arrested once and asked to leave a meeting another      time. When she was arrested, she said the charges were      dropped due to lack of evidence that she was disrupting the      meeting.    <\/p>\n<p>      In both cases I was questioning freedom of speech and      special treatment toward some individuals and hostility      toward others, Brown said.    <\/p>\n<p>      Civil discourse is a part of the legislative process and is      protected speech. Negative comments should be welcomed. If we      only hear the positive, how do we improve? Brown said.      People wouldnt be hostile if they didnt feel as though      they were being silenced. When the government refuses to      listen to the engaged, they end up getting the voices of the      enraged.    <\/p>\n<p>      She also said disruptive comments are a matter of      perception, arguing that it could also be disruptive to hit      the gavel and interrupt people while speaking.    <\/p>\n<p>      If people are intimidated by words, perhaps they dont need      to be in a public position where they should expect to be      presented with criticism, opposing views, and negativity,      Brown said. I dont think theres a current balance in      freedom of speech and harassment. I think freedom of speech      is being stifled, and any attempted intimidation is coming      from the dais.    <\/p>\n<p>      Gary Bubba Purser has been at the forefront of some      exchanges during City Council meetings, especially ones that      affect local developers, as he is one himself.    <\/p>\n<p>      Purser has made negative comments toward the city staff and      made perceived attempts to bully them regarding developer      fees.    <\/p>\n<p>          Gary \"Bubba\" Purser talks          building inspection fees at Tuesday's council          meeting.        <\/p>\n<p>      We never paid these, Purser said at one meeting. And they      couldnt tell me (what they were), and these are your      engineering people along with your consultant.    <\/p>\n<p>      But Paquette said he thinks Purser was mellow about it.    <\/p>\n<p>      He said he believes Councilman Jose Segarra dispelled the      notion of having a bias because of his real estate background      when he refused, once, to allow Purser to have additional      time at the podium.    <\/p>\n<p>      Other times, however, Purser was allowed to continue to      speak.    <\/p>\n<p>      Purser, whose family has been building homes in Killeen for      generations and has been closely linked to local government      for decades, made it a point in at least one recent meeting      that hes never contributed to the election campaigns of the      current council.    <\/p>\n<p>      During a public comment period of one meeting, he pointed at      each council member, saying hes never given them money.    <\/p>\n<p>      At another meeting, he left the podium laughing after the      council failed to give me more than the allotted four minutes      to speak on a subject.    <\/p>\n<p>      Purser could not be reached for comment.    <\/p>\n<p>      According to a 2021 report from the National League of      Cities, 87% of surveyed local officials have seen increased      harassment against local officials in the past few years      while 81% of officials have themselves been targeted for      harassment, threats or violence.    <\/p>\n<p>      Personal attacks. Physical assaults. Cyberbullying directed      at themselves their children and families  all while having      to manage multiple crises in their communities  this is what      it means to be a public servant in 2021, Clarence E.      Anthony, NLC CEO and executive director, said in a news      release. Its too easy to forget that our local leaders are      also human. Along with their titles of mayor,      councilmember, or commissioner  they are also parent,      friend, neighbor, and so much more.    <\/p>\n<p>      Much of that harassment is occurring on social media, NLC      said.    <\/p>\n<p>      The Herald sent the following questions to the council and      mayor to get their take on the behavior of Fornino, Brown and      Purser at meetings:    <\/p>\n<p>      Do you believe that some people speaking before the council      are creating an intimidating environment?    <\/p>\n<p>      Specifically, do you think the public comments during council      meetings from Michael Fornino, Gary Purser Jr. and Mellisa      Brown hurt or help local government in Killeen? Please      explain.    <\/p>\n<p>      Fornino and Purser have both been in public comment periods      where they appeared to attack peoples character, either      directly or indirectly. Do you see the same thing and what,      if anything, can be done about it?    <\/p>\n<p>      Do Forninos, Pursers and Browns constant conflicts with      the council affect the image of Killeen? How so?    <\/p>\n<p>      What is the balance between freedom of speech and harassment,      bigotry etc.? When do you think the City Council should put      its foot down?    <\/p>\n<p>      Do you think Fornino, Purser and Brown  with their actions,      words and behavior at council meetings  discourage others      from participating in local government?    <\/p>\n<p>      Here is how Killeens elected leaders answered:    <\/p>\n<p>      Mayor Nash-King said in an email to the Herald that freedom      of speech did not give citizens the right to harass,      intimidate or create a threatening atmosphere during council      meetings.    <\/p>\n<p>      I can understand if a resident questions a council members      voting record, the staff presentation, or the budget, but      creating a toxic environment for residents attending the      meeting by yelling, screaming, and disobeying the protocol to      be escorted out of a council meeting for a political stunt is      an embarrassment to the city, Nash-King said. This behavior      also deters residents from attending council meetings and      partnerships with potential businesses.    <\/p>\n<p>      She said she and two council members have spoken with the      city manager, legal and Police Chief Pedro Lopez on how to      create a safer environment for individuals attending meetings      because the attacks have escalated from the council chamber      to social media outlets, emails, phone calls, and      voicemails.    <\/p>\n<p>      Councilman Riakos Adams acknowledged in an email that there      were emotionally charged comments during council meetings      that people might find intimidating.    <\/p>\n<p>      However, its essential to remember the importance of      preserving the democratic process and allowing all voices to      be heard, Adams said.  While I may not always agree with      every comment made, I believe in the fundamental right of all      our citizens to voice their opinions. The health of our local      government in Killeen and everywhere else relies on diverse      viewpoints and robust discussions. That said, a collaborative      and respectful environment benefits the decision-making      process and is supposed to foster trust among the community.    <\/p>\n<p>      He said if there are comments that amount to personal      attacks, they should be approached with an open-minded      response and corrective measures if necessary.    <\/p>\n<p>      Local government thrives on the participation of its      residents. I would like to see more involvement, Adams said.      It is a concern if any actions or words discourage people      from engaging. We should always strive to ensure that council      meetings are seen as inclusive and open to everyone,      irrespective of their views. We should not allow anyone to      monopolize discussions and make others feel their opinions      are of no consequence or not heard.    <\/p>\n<p>      Segarra said in an email that he does not believe that people      speaking before the council necessarily brings about an      intimidating environment.    <\/p>\n<p>      This is because individuals often bring their unique      interpretations and observations to the issues being      discussed, and their level of passion for expressing their      opinions may vary, Segarra said. This diversity in      perspectives is actually a valuable aspect of council      meetings, as it can lead to the emergence of different      viewpoints and robust discussions.    <\/p>\n<p>      He said depending on the types of comments, speakers can      either have beneficial or detrimental effects on local      government.    <\/p>\n<p>       Its crucial to know that people can get very emotional      when talking about certain topics. This understanding is      important for keeping things open and democratic, Segarra      said. To make sure theres a balance between free speech and      respectful discussions, the city council lets people speak      about agenda items. But they have to stick to the topic and      not attack council members personally. If someone goes      off-topic or breaks the rules, the mayor will give them a      warning. If they keep doing it after the warning, they might      be asked to leave the podium.    <\/p>\n<p>      He said even though conflicts with speakers do have a      negative effect on Killeens image, the important thing is      how the city council responds.    <\/p>\n<p>      The council is being observed by the same stakeholders      looking to invest in our city, to see whether the council      demonstrates the resilience to withstand the influence of      individuals for the good of the city, Segarra said. The      councils response and its ability to maintain a constructive      and informed approach play a pivotal role in shaping the      citys perception and, by extension, its attractiveness to      those interested in its growth and development.    <\/p>\n<p>      Councilman Joseph Solomon said in these instances, civility      is important.    <\/p>\n<p>      It involves treating each other with respect, even when we      hold differing opinions or positions, he said. While      disagreements are a natural part of the political process, it      is important to express these differences in a respectful      manner. No one in our meeting shouldnt be engaging in      personal attacks. We must stay on the issues that are on the      agenda. Respect is a two-way street. We must agree that we      can disagree respectfully.    <\/p>\n<p>      Other members of the council, including Michael Boyd, Nina      Cobb, Jessica Gonzalez and Ramon Alvarez did not respond to      the questions by deadline.    <\/p>\n<p>      Paquette doesnt often speak during council meetings, but      this week he will on this very topic.    <\/p>\n<p>      The people who always expect the worst, if the tables would      turn, would be doing the inappropriate things, he said.    <\/p>\n<p>      He had a message for people speaking before the city council.    <\/p>\n<p>      Enough is enough, you know. I know the council likes to hear      feedback from the residents, but do it in a constructive      manner. 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