{"id":1118387,"date":"2023-10-09T00:25:20","date_gmt":"2023-10-09T04:25:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/massie-mccarthy-speakership-showdown-a-referendum-on-reason\/"},"modified":"2023-10-09T00:25:20","modified_gmt":"2023-10-09T04:25:20","slug":"massie-mccarthy-speakership-showdown-a-referendum-on-reason","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/libertarian\/massie-mccarthy-speakership-showdown-a-referendum-on-reason\/","title":{"rendered":"Massie: McCarthy Speakership Showdown a &#8216;Referendum&#8217; on &#8230; &#8211; Reason"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    (UPDATE:The House of Representatives    voted 216-206 on Tuesday afternoon to remove Rep. Kevin    McCarthy (RCalif.) as speaker of the House, with eight    Republicans voting in favor of his dismissal. It is the first    time in U.S. history that a sitting speaker has been ousted in    this manner. The position will remain vacant until a majority    of the House votes to appoint a new speaker.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Ahead of what could be a dramatic afternoon in the House of    Representatives, Rep. Thomas Massie (RKy.) occupies an unusual    and possibly unique position.  <\/p>\n<p>    Massie is the closest thing to a libertarian that you'll find    in the House and a frequent ally of the right-wing Freedom    Caucussome members of which are aiming to topple Speaker of    the House Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) in a vote that could come    this afternoon. But in an interview with Reason on    Tuesday morning, Massie offered a defense of McCarthy's    speakership, and he warned that the Republican rebels might not    understand the damage they would do by firing him.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"In many ways, this is a referendum on whether the House is    going to try regular order or not, because the next speakerif    Kevin is deposed todayis not going to say 'oh, if only we had    tried more regular order, this could have worked out,'\" Massie    toldReason. \"The next speaker is going to go    back to the Old Testamentand we're going to devolve to the    former method, which was an omnibus bill every year and gang    warfare to try and get your thing in the omnibus bill.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    For Massieand for anyone who wants to see Congress budget more    responsibly     regular order is a big deal. Effectively, that means that    Congress should bring each of its 12    annual spending bills to the floor via the process that    everyone learns in civics class: with committees voting on what    to include in each, then amendments, and debate on the House    floor before a final vote. Congress hasn't correctly completed    that process on time since 1996.  <\/p>\n<p>    As part of the     compromise McCarthy reached with the House Freedom Caucus    in January, he agreed to go back to that system.  <\/p>\n<p>    He's been criticized    for failing to follow through. While there are certainly    personal issues involved in Rep. Matt Gaetz's (RFla.) attempt    to dump McCarthy from the speakership, some of Gaetz's    criticism is focused on McCarthy's unwillingness to send    single-subject bills to the House floor.  <\/p>\n<p>    Gaetz     filed the motion to vacatea rarely used procedural tool    that allows the full House to vote to remove a speakerafter    McCarthy suspended the rules to bring a continuing resolution    to the House floor on Sunday to prevent    the government from shutting down. The bill passed with    support from Democrats and against the objections of the    Freedom Caucus.  <\/p>\n<p>    Massie voted against the continuing resolution but said Tuesday    it was \"the least worst of a bunch of bad options.\" If the    House bill hadn't passed, he said, it's likely that a    Senate-drafted continuing resolution including a higher level    of spendingmostly because of added military and humanitarian    aid to Ukraine, which was left out of the House measurewould    have become law.  <\/p>\n<p>    McCarthy's     defenders argue that he's working to reform the budget    process and needs more time to see it through.  <\/p>\n<p>    Massie points out that McCarthy has allowed two Freedom Caucus    membersReps. Chip Roy (RTexas) and Ralph Norman (RS.C.)onto    the Rules Committee. Together with Massie, that's a voting    block that can effectively control what bills reach the House    floor, something that Massie says would have been unthinkable    under previous Republican speakers.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"They have been listening to us and we have been guiding the    process,\" he says.  <\/p>\n<p>    Norman has also voiced support for keeping McCarthy in charge    of the House. \"I have been profoundly disappointed in several    elements of Speaker McCarthy's leadership, but now is not the    time to pursue a Motion to Vacate,\" he     wrote on X (formerly known as Twitter) on Tuesday morning.  <\/p>\n<p>    If McCarthy survives today's vote, does that mean regular order    will prevail and Congress will pass all 12 budget bills before    the new continuing resolution expires in mid-November? Massie    says there's \"a good chance\" that will happen.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the other hand, \"ifKevin fails today, we're going to    get the Schumer-McConnell special,\" he says, referring to    Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (DN.Y.) and Senate    Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (RKy.), who Massie believes    will have the upper hand in any dealings with a leaderless    House GOP caucus.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"And it's going to be an omnibus,\" Massie added, \"and it's not    going to be pretty.\"  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Originally posted here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/reason.com\/2023\/10\/03\/thomas-massie-the-next-speaker-is-going-to-go-back-to-the-old-testament\/\" title=\"Massie: McCarthy Speakership Showdown a 'Referendum' on ... - Reason\">Massie: McCarthy Speakership Showdown a 'Referendum' on ... - Reason<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> (UPDATE:The House of Representatives voted 216-206 on Tuesday afternoon to remove Rep. Kevin McCarthy (RCalif.) as speaker of the House, with eight Republicans voting in favor of his dismissal. It is the first time in U.S.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/libertarian\/massie-mccarthy-speakership-showdown-a-referendum-on-reason\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187826],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1118387","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-libertarian"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1118387"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1118387"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1118387\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1118387"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1118387"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1118387"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}