{"id":1118348,"date":"2023-10-07T07:07:37","date_gmt":"2023-10-07T11:07:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/old-gun-controls-that-were-constitutionally-repealed-are-not-precedents-for-modern-gun-control-reason\/"},"modified":"2023-10-07T07:07:37","modified_gmt":"2023-10-07T11:07:37","slug":"old-gun-controls-that-were-constitutionally-repealed-are-not-precedents-for-modern-gun-control-reason","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/second-amendment\/old-gun-controls-that-were-constitutionally-repealed-are-not-precedents-for-modern-gun-control-reason\/","title":{"rendered":"Old gun controls that were constitutionally repealed are not precedents for modern gun control &#8211; Reason"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    This week amicus briefs were filed in United States v.    Rahimi, the only Second Amendment merits case currently    before the Supreme Court. The docket page for the case is    here. I will be blogging    later about various briefs in the case. This post describes the    amicus brief that I filed, available here.  <\/p>\n<p>    The case involves the constitutionality of 18 U.S.C. sect.    922(g)(8), which imposes a federal prison sentence of up to 15    for persons who possess a firearm while subject to certain    state-issued restraining orders. The amici are several law    professors, including the VC's Randy Barnett, the Second    Amendment Law Center, and the Independence Institute, where    I am Research Director. My co-counsel on the brief was Konstandinos T. Moros, of the Michel &    Associates law firm, in Long Beach, California.  <\/p>\n<p>    The bottom line of the brief is that subsection 922(g)(8(C)(i)    does not infringe the Second Amendment; it restricts    the arms rights of individuals who have been found by a judge    to be a \"credible threat\" to others. In contrast, subsection    922(g)(8(C)(ii) does infringe the Second Amendment,    because it does not require any such judicial finding. The    brief addresses the question of \"who\" may be restricted in the    exercise of Second Amendment rights; the brief takes no    position on questions of \"how\"such as what due process is    required, or whether the severity of 922(g)(8) ban is    comparable to historic laws restricting the exercise of arms    rights.  <\/p>\n<p>    The main purpose of the brief is to describe what sorts of    historic laws can serve as precedents or analogues for modern    gun control laws. The brief agrees with the Solicitor General that    modern laws against persons who have been proven to be    dangerous are supported by the common law and by historic    statutes against persons who carried arms to terrorize the    public or threatening to breach the peace.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, several amici in support of the Solicitor General, as    well as the Department of Justice in cases in lower courts,    also rely on old laws based on invidious discriminationsuch as    against Catholics, slaves, free people of color, and so on. The    modern attorneys who cite old discriminatory statutes as    precedents in favor of gun control always make a disclaimer    that they don't agree with the old laws, but the attorneys then    claim that these laws still guide the current meaning of the    right to keep and bear arms.  <\/p>\n<p>    The amicus brief explains the error of such thinking. Arms    rights discrimination has been obliterated by constitutional    enactments. It is the constitutional enactments that define our    constitutional right to arms. The right is not defined by the    old abuses that the constitutional enactments were designed to    stop:  <\/p>\n<p>      As legal historian Sir Henry Maine observed, \"the movement of      the progressive societies has hitherto been a movement from      Status to Contract.\" Henry Maine, Ancient Law 182 (1861).      Similarly, the progress of the right to arms has been      constitutional enactments to repudiate unjust exclusions.    <\/p>\n<p>    Here is the Summary of Argument:  <\/p>\n<p>      This brief addresses \"who\" may be deprived of the right to      arms. Some lower courts have had difficulty discerning      lessons to draw from historical laws disarming various      groups.    <\/p>\n<p>      Constitutional enactments about the right to arms have added      specificity to the right. When a constitutional enactment      forbids depriving a particular group of the right to arms,      the prior laws targeting that group are repudiated as      legitimate precedents from which modern gun control analogies      may be drawn.    <\/p>\n<p>      The 1689 English Bill of Rights, which is part of the British      Constitution and was applicable in America, repudiated      deprivation of arms rights because of peaceful political      disagreement or because of adherence to a Protestant      denomination that was not the established Church of England.      The 1689 enactment allowed some restrictions based on      economic or social class, and did not protect      non-Protestants.    <\/p>\n<p>      The 1788 United States Constitution rejected arms      restrictions for persons whose religious scruples did not      allow them to \"swear\" an \"oath.\"    <\/p>\n<p>      The 1791 Second Amendment rejected arms rights limitations      based on religion or class\/income. Therefore, the short-lived      1756 anti-Catholic laws in two colonies have no validity as      post-1791 precedents for limitations on Second Amendment      rights.    <\/p>\n<p>      The 1865 Thirteenth Amendment abolished all the \"badges and      incidents\" of slavery. Being disarmed is an incident of being      enslaved. Hence, the Thirteenth Amendment obliterated the      precedential value of earlier statutes forbidding slaves to      have arms or allowing possession only with a discretionary      license.    <\/p>\n<p>      All four clauses of section one of the 1868 Fourteenth      Amendment finished the work. Prior statutes imposing arms      restrictions on free people of color were thereafter negated      as precedents for arms restrictions.    <\/p>\n<p>      During the American Revolution, some \"Loyalists\" still      considered themselves \"subjects of the King of Great      Britain,\" and not \"the people of the United States.\"      Textually, Second Amendment rights inhere only in \"the      people\" of the United States.    <\/p>\n<p>      Similarly, when the Constitution was ratified, Indians were      members of foreign nations. Their relations with the United      States were governed by treaties ratified by the Senate.      Later, Indians became citizens of the United States, with the      right to keep and bear arms. The colonial and Early Republic      arms laws about Indians who were members of other nations are      valid precedents today for arms laws applying to citizens of      foreign nations.    <\/p>\n<p>      The precedents about members of foreign nations are not      useful here, because Mr. Rahimi is a U.S. citizen, and hence      one of the people of the United States.    <\/p>\n<p>      However, as accurately catalogued in the Solicitor General's      brief, there is ample original meaning precedent for limiting      an individual's arms rights based on a judicial finding that      the person poses a danger to others. Therefore, state      statutes addressing the same subject as 18 U.S.C.      922(g)(8)(C)(i) can comply with the Second Amendment.    <\/p>\n<p>      While subsection (C)(i) requires finding of \"a credible      threat,\" subsection (C)(ii) does not, and therefore is an      infringement. The problem could be solved by changing a      single word between 922(g)(8)(C)(i) and (ii): \"or\" to \"and.\"      Making (C)(i) and (C)(ii) conjunctive instead of disjunctive      would remedy the infringement in (C)(ii).    <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/reason.com\/volokh\/2023\/10\/06\/old-gun-controls-that-were-constitutionally-repealed-are-not-precedents-for-modern-gun-control\" title=\"Old gun controls that were constitutionally repealed are not precedents for modern gun control - Reason\" rel=\"noopener\">Old gun controls that were constitutionally repealed are not precedents for modern gun control - Reason<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> This week amicus briefs were filed in United States v. Rahimi, the only Second Amendment merits case currently before the Supreme Court. The docket page for the case is here <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/second-amendment\/old-gun-controls-that-were-constitutionally-repealed-are-not-precedents-for-modern-gun-control-reason\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[193621],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1118348","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-second-amendment"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1118348"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1118348"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1118348\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1118348"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1118348"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1118348"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}