{"id":1118170,"date":"2023-09-29T19:10:41","date_gmt":"2023-09-29T23:10:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/freedom-caucus-the-fight-club-of-congress-the-christian-science-monitor\/"},"modified":"2023-09-29T19:10:41","modified_gmt":"2023-09-29T23:10:41","slug":"freedom-caucus-the-fight-club-of-congress-the-christian-science-monitor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fiscal-freedom\/freedom-caucus-the-fight-club-of-congress-the-christian-science-monitor\/","title":{"rendered":"Freedom Caucus: The Fight Club of Congress &#8211; The Christian Science Monitor"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    If the federal government shuts down at midnight Saturday,    nearly everyone on Capitol Hill is ready to blame the House    Freedom Caucus.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet hardly anyone here can articulate what, exactly, the    right-wing group wants  or how it plans to get there.  <\/p>\n<p>      The group designed to be a thorn in the side of GOP      leadership has become too fragmented to agree on specific      demands, reducing its influence as a bloc. But key      individuals have more leverage than ever.    <\/p>\n<p>    The group has no website, no official roster, and definitely no    cameras in the room where it happens.  <\/p>\n<p>    You can only join if youre vetted and invited. Its all part    of the mystique surrounding the ultraconservative group that    often seems like Capitol Hills version of Fight Club. (First    rule of Fight Club: You dont talk about Fight Club.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Founded to rein in spending and decentralize power in the    House, it has longbeena thorn in the side of GOP    leaders. It has shut down government operations and careers    before  and has made clear it isnt afraid to do so again.  <\/p>\n<p>    Today, the blocs members have more clout than ever, even as    members are divided over tactics.  <\/p>\n<p>    But some say it has departed from its founding ideals.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its like, Guys, you used to have actually a fiscal heart and    soul, and now youre just playing political games, says    Freedom Caucus co-founder Matt Salmon, who left Congress in    2017.  <\/p>\n<p>    If the federal government shuts down at midnight Saturday,    nearly everyone on Capitol Hill is ready to blame the House    Freedom Caucus.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet hardly anyone here can articulate what, exactly, the    right-wing group wants  or how it plans to get there.  <\/p>\n<p>    There isnt even complete clarity on whos in it.The    group has no website, no official roster, and definitely no    cameras in the room where it happens.  <\/p>\n<p>      The group designed to be a thorn in the side of GOP      leadership has become too fragmented to agree on specific      demands, reducing its influence as a bloc. But key      individuals have more leverage than ever.    <\/p>\n<p>    Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, a key player in the shutdown drama,    often appears with the Freedom Caucus. But he says hes    technically just an admirer. Georgia firebrand Marjorie    Taylor Greene was a member, and now isnt, under circumstances    that remain unclear.  <\/p>\n<p>    You can only join if youre vetted and invited, says Arizona    Rep. Andy Biggs, strolling back from the House last week after    casting one of six GOP votes that blocked leadership from    bringing the defense appropriations bill to a vote.  <\/p>\n<p>    Andy Biggs, my hero! says Rep. Lauren Boebertof    Colorado,a fellow Freedom Caucus    member,sidling up to him at the edge of the    crosswalk leading back to House office buildings.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hey, whats up, he says, before turning back and declining to    elaborate further on the caucuss internal workings.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its all part of the mystique surrounding the ultraconservative    group that often seems like Capitol Hills version of Fight    Club. (First rule of Fight Club: You dont talk about Fight    Club.) Founded to rein in spending and decentralize power in    the House, it has beena thorn in the side of GOP    speakersfrom John Boehner to Paul Ryan and now Kevin    McCarthy. It has shut down government operations and careers    before  and has made clear it isnt afraid to do so again.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet while Freedom Caucus members have more clout than ever,    including key seats on committees and subcommittees, this    latest standoff has also exposed cracks within the group    itself. Members have been publicly divided over tactics, the    desirability of a shutdown, and whether to accept a short-term    fix.  <\/p>\n<p>          Evelyn Hockstein\/Reuters        <\/p>\n<p>          GOP Reps. Andy Biggs of Arizona and Matt Gaetz of Florida          confer during a House Judiciary Committee hearing on          Capitol Hill in Washington, Sept. 20, 2023.        <\/p>\n<p>    One reason for the chaos is simple math.Republicans hold    only a four-seat majority,which means that just a handful    of lawmakers can gum up the works.That gives any holdouts    outsize leverage,which disincentivizes banding    togetheror compromising. As the government edges closer    to the brink of running out of money, Speaker McCarthy isnt    negotiating just with the Freedom Caucus, but with a rotating    cast of individuals, both inside and outside the group  all    with seemingly disparate demands.  <\/p>\n<p>    Didnt we sing kumbaya the other night? jokesRep. Ken    Buck of Colorado, a Freedom Caucus member, when asked about the    groups internal divisions. Mr. Buck himself has publicly    criticized Mr. McCarthys decision to launch    animpeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden,    calling it a transparent attempt by the speaker to distract    from the spending fight.  <\/p>\n<p>    We all held hands, quips Representative Biggs, walking    alongside him.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its a big group. And its a group thats going to disagree,    says Mr. Buck, more seriously. People look at that and say,    Thats disorganized. I look at that and I say, Im learning    a lot.  <\/p>\n<p>    What, specifically, has he been learning?  <\/p>\n<p>    Theres a lot of conservatives that will vote for more    spending.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Freedom Caucus was born during a secret January 2015    meeting of nine GOP members of Congress in Hershey,    Pennsylvania.  <\/p>\n<p>    During the Obama years, Republicans had retaken the House with    the tea party wave of 2010, but many were frustrated that they    hadnt made much progress in exacting fiscal discipline. A    16-day shutdown in late 2013 over the presidents Affordable    Care Act failed to extract anychanges to the    health care policy, and the GOP saw its approval numbers    plunge.  <\/p>\n<p>    Conservatives felt like they were constantly getting rolled,    saysMattSalmon,a veteran representative from    Arizona who was recruited to join the Hershey meeting.He    and his co-founders saw a need for a new group that could    harness the collective clout of right-wing members.Their    goal:pressure Republican leaders to restore fiscal    sanity and constitutional principles,and allow    legislators to actually legislate  instead of making big    spending decisions behind closed doors.  <\/p>\n<p>    Many today insist the groups mission remains    unchanged.Freedom Caucus leaders say they are trying to    draw a line in the sand, to get a bankrupt and broken    Washington back on track before its too late.  <\/p>\n<p>    Our members are united on one thing, and that is to make sure    that we cut spending in this government and that we fund things    that the government should be doing  no more and no less,    says Rep. Byron Donalds of Florida.  <\/p>\n<p>    Mr. Salmon, however, is dismayed over the groups current    state. He says the caucus abandoned its core principles to    become a cheering squad for President Donald Trump, staying    mum as the Trump administrationran up big    deficits.(What members say in their defense: They werent    in Congress yet, or the economy was much better    then.)That, he says, created a credibility deficit    that has undermined its power.  <\/p>\n<p>    Where were you during those four years when we were spending    like drunken sailors on shore leave? asks Mr. Salmon, who left    Congress just before Mr. Trump took office in January    2017.Its like, Guys, you used to have actually a    fiscal heart and soul, and now youre just playing political    games.  <\/p>\n<p>    Others on the right are less critical but agree the caucus is    struggling to exert the influence it once had.  <\/p>\n<p>    A more unified Freedom Caucus would actually be helpful in the    current situation, argues Rep. Thomas Massie,a Kentucky    libertarian who is not in the group but is a fiscal    conservative. If they were functioning as they were founded,    where they consolidate ideas and plans among the most    conservative portion of the party, they could win some    meaningful concessions, he says.  <\/p>\n<p>    The problem we have right now is that the Freedom Caucus is    not leading the dissent, Mr. Massie adds. A lot of times when    you find five or 10 dissenters, theres no common    objection.So its hard to get past that impasse.  <\/p>\n<p>    Anybody seen a bald guy with a goatee? asks someone in the    bowels of the Capitol where journalists are milling around to    get the latest scuttlebutt after a GOP meeting breaks up.  <\/p>\n<p>          J. Scott Applewhite\/AP        <\/p>\n<p>          Texas Rep. Chip Roy and members of the House Freedom          Caucus hold a news event outside the Capitol in          Washington, Sept. 12, 2023, calling for Congress to rein          in \"out of control\" spending.        <\/p>\n<p>    Its a tongue-in-cheek reference to Rep. Chip Roy, an    ideological heavyweight within the Freedom Caucus and one of    the most prominent members pushing Speaker McCarthy to hold the    line on government spending.  <\/p>\n<p>    Mr. Roy knows all about government shutdowns, and the political    risks they carry: He was serving as chief of staff for GOP Sen.    Ted Cruz when the senator championed the 2013 shutdown over the    Affordable Care Act.He doesnt want another one now, and    hes chastised some of his more hard-line colleagues for    flirting with danger.  <\/p>\n<p>    But hes also insistent that Congress needs to rein in out of    control spending.  <\/p>\n<p>    The federal government will spend $2 trillion more than it    takes in this year, Representative Roy said at a Freedom    Caucus press conference earlier this month, noting that the    government had already added $1.5 trillion in debt since the    so-called debt deal in June. Were now spending more on    interest on the debt than we are on defending the United States    of America.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thank God for the Freedom Caucus, chimed in Florida Sen. Rick    Scott at the same presser. Weve gotta stop this insanity.  <\/p>\n<p>    Still unclear is how they plan to do that.  <\/p>\n<p>    With Democrats currently in control of the Senate, and    President Biden in the White House, nothing can pass without    bipartisan support, which means, in the end, that some form of    compromise will be required. The question for conservatives is    how much pain they want to try to inflict in advance of that    eventual compromise  and whether those efforts will actually    help or hurt their cause.  <\/p>\n<p>    Many are still irate over the debt ceiling deal Mr. McCarthy    brokered with the president back in June. Others concede that    the speakers hands were essentially tied.Some critics    question whether the current holdouts can be placated by any    concessions, or simply want to fight for the sake of    fighting.  <\/p>\n<p>    Rep. Ralph Norman of South Carolina, who withheld his vote for    Mr. McCarthy to become speaker until the 11th of    15rounds, sayshes fine with being one of    only a handful of GOP membersstanding apart from the rest    of the Freedom Caucus if thats what it takes to achieve    economic security.   <\/p>\n<p>    Were going to fight for the country, says Representative    Norman. I dont care whether weve got four [members], or    weve got more.  <\/p>\n<p>          J. Scott Applewhite\/AP        <\/p>\n<p>          Rep. Ralph Norman of South Carolina looks over notes as          the House Rules Committee meets to prepare an          appropriations bill for a floor vote, at the Capitol in          Washington, Sept. 29, 2023. He says he doesn't mind being          one of the few Republican holdouts.        <\/p>\n<p>    Hanging over the negotiations is the threat that at any moment,    a single disgruntled member could bring a motion to vacate    the speakers chair in other words, a vote on whether to    kick Mr. McCarthy out of his job.  <\/p>\n<p>    In a Sept. 12 phone call with reporters, Mr. Gaetz accused Mr.    McCarthy of backtracking on promises he made to conservatives    when trying to win the speakership  and threatened to bring    such a motion every single day for as long as it takes.  <\/p>\n<p>    Democrats have been watching this drama unfold with a mixture    of frustration, schadenfreude, and even a touch of sympathy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Weve all had friends in relationships where we say to them,    Theyre not good for you, and theyre not that into you,    says Democratic Rep. Derek Kilmer of Washington. And this    feels like that dynamic.  <\/p>\n<p>    The majority party has always had to deal with disgruntled    factions, notes former House historian Ray Smock. But its    unusual for a handful of people to wield such outsize    power.Previous Speaker Nancy Pelosi managed to    largelymaintain discipline in the last Congress with an    11-seat Democratic majority.  <\/p>\n<p>    The fact that the leadership on the Republican side has not    found a way to deal with their own hotheads, as Im prone to    call them, is kind of a mystery, says Mr. Smock. At some    point they will have to be called to account.  <\/p>\n<p>    Over the pastweek, Mr. McCarthy began bending to    someof the renegades demands. Mr. Gaetz and    others have been insisting on 12 separate spending bills rather    than one big omnibus, which has become the default for    Congress and makes it difficult to influence funding levels in    specific areas.  <\/p>\n<p>    Earlier in the summer, however, some of those same members    stalled that 12-bill process by bringing the House floor to a    complete standstill inretaliation for Speaker McCarthys    compromise on the debt ceiling. Conservatives said Mr. McCarthy    had reneged on promises he made in January to win their backing    for the speakership.  <\/p>\n<p>    What we ended up doing was sort of re-litigating January ...    in July, says Representative Massie. It was sort of like,    OK, Kevin, you didnt hold your end of the bargain, so were    going to stop you from doing anything.  <\/p>\n<p>    The speaker heldvotes Thursday on four of those 12 bills,    and got three of them passed in addition to one that passed    this summer. But he got little in return.On Friday, 21    Republicans torpedoed a GOP stopgap spending measure    known as a continuing resolution, or CR  that would    have kept the government running in the short term.  <\/p>\n<p>    The measure, which Representatives Roy and Donalds, along with    Freedom Caucus chair Scott Perry, hashed out with other    Republicans, provides for lower overall spending levels and    provisions toimprove border security. But more than 10 of    their own Freedom Caucus colleagues, including Mr. Biggs, Mr.    Buck, and Ms. Boebert, helped kill it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Rep. Garrett Graves, who was the chief negotiator between the    caucus and Mr. McCarthy during the debt ceiling standoff, said    last week that walking away from the CR was a big mistake.    The measure wouldnt have passed the Senate as written, but it    would have given Mr. McCarthy some leverage in his negotiations    with Democrats. Now, they may be heading for a politically    damaging shutdown that eventually forces Republicans to cave    entirely.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think the closer we get to shutdown, the more and more    leverage you lose, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    When asked whether the stalemate reflects a breakdown in    ideological cohesion, personalities, or just general    dysfunction, he gave a tired smile.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ive got a whole lot of reasons as to why thats happening,    he said. Tapping his head, he added, But Im just going to    keep them right there for right now.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more from the original source:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.csmonitor.com\/USA\/Politics\/2023\/0929\/Freedom-Caucus-The-Fight-Club-of-Congress\" title=\"Freedom Caucus: The Fight Club of Congress - The Christian Science Monitor\">Freedom Caucus: The Fight Club of Congress - The Christian Science Monitor<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> If the federal government shuts down at midnight Saturday, nearly everyone on Capitol Hill is ready to blame the House Freedom Caucus. 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