{"id":1118119,"date":"2023-09-28T05:18:39","date_gmt":"2023-09-28T09:18:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/at-2nd-debate-rivals-laud-reagan-trump-dances-on-his-grave-time\/"},"modified":"2023-09-28T05:18:39","modified_gmt":"2023-09-28T09:18:39","slug":"at-2nd-debate-rivals-laud-reagan-trump-dances-on-his-grave-time","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/hedonism\/at-2nd-debate-rivals-laud-reagan-trump-dances-on-his-grave-time\/","title":{"rendered":"At 2nd Debate, Rivals Laud Reagan, Trump Dances on His Grave &#8211; TIME"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    This article is part of The D.C. Brief, TIMEs politics    newsletter. Sign up     here to get stories like this sent to your    inbox.  <\/p>\n<p>    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis took incoming fire from all sides as    he stood at center stage Wednesday night at the Reagan Library    in Simi Valley, Calif. So, too, did tech    investor Vivek Ramaswamy, who again doubled-down on his        belief that transgender kids were mentally ill; former Vice    President Mike Pence followed-up with a proposed federal ban on    gender-affirming care for students and almost     insta-executions for guilty mass shooters. Andhooboydid    no one see Sen. Tim Scott launching a     rocket alleging Ramaswamy was in business with the Chinese    Communist Party and the same people that funded Hunter Biden.  <\/p>\n<p>    Messy? Of course. And yet, despite the drama and shade,    borderline slander and sinister sneering, Wednesdays second    GOP debate among White House hopefuls may still have mattered    less than the man who didnt show: former President Donald    Trump, the frontrunner in polls, money, and self-confidence who    couldnt be bothered. Instead of joining his fellow Republicans    under Ronald Reagans Air Force One at The Gippers    presidential temple, Trump instead jetted to Michigan in the    midst of an autoworker strike to offer his version of    worker-based populism. Whereas Ronnie     fired 11,000 striking air traffic controllers during his    first year on the job and set back the labor movement in a huge    way, there was Trumpsome 2,300 miles awayrambling at a        nonunion factory, yet still seemingly contradicting a    half-century Republican orthodoxy once again.  <\/p>\n<p>    All of which explains why, with Trump leading his nearest    competitor, DeSantis, by a     42-point spread using a platform of grievance, gotcha, and    goblins, it might be worth asking if anyone is looking for    Reagans Morning in America any longer. At the first GOP    debate, staged in Milwaukee, Ramaswamy seemed to     mock that nostalgia: It is not Morning in America. We live    in a dark moment. Such sacrilege was unthinkable in a    pre-Trump era.  <\/p>\n<p>    After the first Republican debate, Trumps lead     widened, his hold on the party hardened, and his    challengers largely seemed to fade into the background. As much    as former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley made     gains with her defense of the neocon standards and    traditional Republican values, it still didnt move the needle    enough to give Trump reason to worry. Which begs this question:    Is Ronald Reagans place as a sacralized figure in the    Republican Party a thing of yesterday? Or has its crown been    replaced by one shaped like a baseball cap and stitched with    Make America Great Again? Has Reagan reached peak irrelevance    in a party seemingly hellbent on hewing to Trump's whims?  <\/p>\n<p>    Since Reagan first burst onto the national scene with an    ideology-resetting speech at CPAC in 1974, he was considered    the gold standard for the modern conservative movement, a new    true north for what it meant to cut taxes, provide    international security through an unbeatable American military,    and demonstrate an absolute indifference to most social-safety    nets in pursuit of bigger gains. Politicians still jockey to    emulate The Great Communicator, activists still wear replicas    of his campaign T-shirts, and donors still respond to the    Pavlovian ring of those 80s-era slogans that sometimes feel    like gospel. For years, the thinking was that if a candidate    could replicate Reagans magic, they could crack the code to    the modern Republican Party.  <\/p>\n<p>    Then, along came Trump. Where Reagan saw     a City on a Hill, Trump saw     American Carnage. Where Reagan promised     Morning in America, Trump promised to     Lock Her Up. As Reagan     negotiated amnesty for 3 million immigrants in the country    illegally, Trump sought to build a border wall, lock up    migrants, and gleefully discussed separating families. And    Trump came within striking distance of winning a second term in    the White House, winning more votes than any other incumbent    President in history.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now on his second contested run for the nomination, Trump may    be looking as much to get back into power as to tapdance on    Reagans grave, which is on the same hillside campus that    hosted the debate Wednesday evening. Everything that Reagan    stood forworthy of honor or abhorrenceseems deserving of    Trumps contempt. Reagan sought to win the Cold War with allies    and internationalism, while Trump preached isolationism and    deference to Moscow. So much so that Trump declined to return    to the scene of his second ever political debate in 2015, the    one where he     said hed get along with Putin,     wanted to put Ivanka Trump on the $10 bill, and refused to    apologize to Jeb Bushs Mexican-born wife.  <\/p>\n<p>    So as the candidates Wednesday night sparred about how to    secure the Southern border and combat Chinese influence, there    was an almost aggressive ahistorical appreciation for Reagans    record. Scott said The City on the Hill needs a brand new    leader. DeSantis invoked Reagans 1989 farewell message and    Ramaswamy sought to hide behind Reagans 11th    Commandment to never speak ill of another GOP figure. And,    as Ramaswamy broke a half-century of conservative foreign    policy normsmany made seemingly unbendable by Reagan    himselfPence roared the Reagan mantra that peace comes    through strength.  <\/p>\n<p>    But it may have all been in service of a legend that no one    longer moves the modern Republican Party, and the candidates at    times seemed all too aware of it. That much was clear when the    evening coasted toward a close with a pointed debate about how    much responsibility Haley bore for costly curtains    installed at her government-provided home where she lived while    serving as the U.N. Ambassador in New York. (The decision    actually     dates to the Obama administration.)  <\/p>\n<p>    For decades, Reagan was a must-kiss ring. Even after his    passing in 2004, candidates still made the     pilgrimage to meet with his widow. And after she passed in    2016, mainstream candidates and hopefuls still made the        trek to Simi Valley to offer their view of conservatism and    its future.  <\/p>\n<p>    For Trump? All of that seems beneath him. And his rivals hoped    voters would catch the snub.  <\/p>\n<p>    You know who else is missing in action? Donald Trump is    missing an action, DeSantis said. He should be on this stage    tonight. He owes it to you to defend his record. Christie    offered his own twist, testing a new nickname in the style of    his nemesis: If you keep doing that, no one up here is going    to call you Donald Trump anymore. They will call you Donald    Duck.  <\/p>\n<p>    Trump knows his ideology: whatever makes him feel popular and    powerful in the moment. He     seemed to know who Margaret Thatcher was, but he couldnt    contain his     giddinessor     hyperbolewhen he met the Queen of England. While MAGA is    his official slogan, Hedonism Over History might be more    accurate. And if that means tossing aside the long-held    deification of Reagan, thats just part of the deal. His    supporters get it, his party excuses it, and the country may    just reward it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Make sense of what matters in Washington.     Sign up for the D.C. Brief newsletter.  <\/p>\n<p>        More Must-Reads From TIME      <\/p>\n<p>    Write to Philip Elliott at <a href=\"mailto:philip.elliott@time.com\">philip.elliott@time.com<\/a>.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/time.com\/6318165\/second-republican-debate-analysis-winners-losers\/\" title=\"At 2nd Debate, Rivals Laud Reagan, Trump Dances on His Grave - TIME\">At 2nd Debate, Rivals Laud Reagan, Trump Dances on His Grave - TIME<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> This article is part of The D.C. 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