{"id":1117809,"date":"2023-09-17T11:45:22","date_gmt":"2023-09-17T15:45:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/can-we-rely-on-our-moral-force-field-to-stop-cloning-going-too-far-the-national\/"},"modified":"2023-09-17T11:45:22","modified_gmt":"2023-09-17T15:45:22","slug":"can-we-rely-on-our-moral-force-field-to-stop-cloning-going-too-far-the-national","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/genetic-engineering\/can-we-rely-on-our-moral-force-field-to-stop-cloning-going-too-far-the-national\/","title":{"rendered":"Can we rely on our &#8216;moral force-field&#8217; to stop cloning going too far? &#8211; The National"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Ensuring the former, and eradicating the latter, is what the    current cutting edge of medical genetics promises. Yet we are    still as fearful of playing God with biology as we ever were.  <\/p>\n<p>    This week saw the passing of Ian Wilmut who, with his team at    Edinburgh University, created the first mammal cloned from an    adult cell (the infamous Dolly the Sheep) in 1996. It reminds    us of Scotlands key role in the advance  however tentative     of genetic engineering.  <\/p>\n<p>    Many of the scare stories raised by Dolly are often centred on    the potential for producing copycat embryos for test and    experiment. Pro-lifers (from George W Bush downwards) furiously    opposed it.  <\/p>\n<p>    READ MORE:Dolly    the Sheep scientists in coronavirus cell treatment    talks  <\/p>\n<p>    The scientists originally looked to extract stem cells from    these embryos. These stem cells could be triggered to grow into    transplantable organs, or unique medicines, perfectly tailored    to their original human sources. But must stem cells be taken    from cloned proto-babies? Cue stramash. Yet this specific scare    was eventually invented away.  <\/p>\n<p>    Shinya Yamanaka gained a Nobel Prize, in 2012, for discovering    induced pluripotent stem cells. This was material that could    be taken from biological adults  thus relieving the need to    make embryos.  <\/p>\n<p>    In 2016, speaking to Scientific American, Yamanaka gave full    credit to Wilmut for inspiration. Dolly the Sheep told me    reprogramming [of the cells nucleus] is possible even in    mammalian cells, and encouraged me to start my own project.  <\/p>\n<p>    Wilmut was genial, bearded and parka-wearing, described by his    biographer Roger Highfield as having the face of a bank    clerk. So he was a comforting front man for what remains, even    today, the most revolutionary possibility: shaping and    designing humans and animals at their genetic and cellular    level.  <\/p>\n<p>    These days, the leading genetics story in town is the    continuing activity of He Jiankui (or JK, as he likes to be    called), the Chinese researcher who enabled the first-ever    genetically-edited humans, with the births of the pseudonymous    twins Lulu and Nana in November 2018.  <\/p>\n<p>    JK was jailed for three years by the Chinese government in    2019, for breaking their national bio-regulations. He has been    rendered persona-non-grata by many of his fellow genetics    scientists.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    At the beginning of this month, as The New Yorkers Dana    Goodyear reports, JK is now released and setting up new labs at    the Wuchang University of Technology, his title director of    the Institute of Genetic Medicine. All this based in  believe    it or not  Wuhan.  <\/p>\n<p>    But Hes crime, as the New Yorker feature painstakingly shows,    was only to have been a few steps ahead of where many    scientists in the field want to be. Such reprogramming of    life is continuous with Wilmuts discovery  not some monstrous    break with it.  <\/p>\n<p>    The crucial biotech tool here is the CRISPR method, for which    Jennifer Doudna and Emmanuelle Charpentier won the Nobel Prize    for Biology in 2020. CRISPR is a viral DNA found in E.coli.    Often compared to a pair of scissors, CRISPR can snip away at    parts of a DNA sequence. Doudna and Charpentier created a    protein which could help target these blades with    considerable precision.  <\/p>\n<p>    What He did was to use CRISPR to cut out a gene called CCR5    from the DNA sequence of these human embryos. CCR5 is known to    increase human receptivity to HIV\/Aids (the parents were    HIV-positive, a badly-regarded disease in China, and wanted    their children to live a life free from that judgement).  <\/p>\n<p>    JKs own goal, given to him on notepaper by James Watson (the    original co-discoverer of DNA with Francis Crick) was posted to    the wall of his office. It read Make People Better. Hes    ambition was to edit humans genes so you can stop the heritable    germline of a condition.  <\/p>\n<p>    Youdont want to just fix it within someones unhealthy    body (or somatically, in the biologists jargon), you want to    entirely remove the condition from, and for, future    generations.  <\/p>\n<p>    But does this slide into Making Better People? That is, does    it raise the chilling prospect of eugenics, or a biological    overclass? It could all too easily, say many of the scientists    Goodyear interviews in her feature.  <\/p>\n<p>    A gene editing expert, Fyodor Urnov, provides the scariest    quote. Its all too easy for heritable editing to be used for    non-therapeutic modifications, says Urnov (or human    enhancement). He gives us three use-case scenarios which we    should be very afraid about.  <\/p>\n<p>    Fear number one: the weaponisation of the military. We know    how to make a human being who runs on four hours of sleep  I    can tell you what mutation to make.  <\/p>\n<p>    Two: We know what gene to edit to reduce pain sensation. If I    were a rogue nation wishing to engineer a next generation of    quasi-pain-free special-forces soldiers, I know exactly what to    do. Its all published. And three: physical strength. You dont    need a large lab operation. You just need the ill-will.  <\/p>\n<p>    READ MORE:Dolly    the Sheep creator Sir Ian Wilmut says 'Noah's Ark' of cloned    stem cells could halt extinctions  <\/p>\n<p>    Shudder. Nevertheless, there is something consistent and    admirable about how genetic biologists can terrify themselves    into self-regulation. Often well ahead of the laws of    governments (or the pitchforks of the people).  <\/p>\n<p>    When gene-splicing between species was made possible in the    70s, the Asilomar conference of 1976 saw a global collection of    scientists  gathering even across Cold War lines  impose    tight and mutually-monitored controls on such experiments. They    feared superbugs and other abnormalities.  <\/p>\n<p>    The CRISPR generation of scientists have already been convening    rigorously. Yet the accuracy of these genetic scissors becomes    ever greater (though they can currently still leave a messy    mosaic of cut and uncut DNA).As they get sharper, the next    step  for which He Jiankui has become something of a scapegoat     is likely to be taken.  <\/p>\n<p>    One scientist talking to Goodyear describes a moral    force-field thats bound to weaken as the science gets better     There will come a moment when all the big questions have been    answered, and where a doctor is facing a patient.  <\/p>\n<p>    As with so many of the existential risks we face, such god-like    tools require at least a Solomonic wisdom. Are we even remotely    capable of that? For example, we should worry that JKs    self-justification for his human editing was partly about    removing the stigma of HIV from infected Chinese families. That    seems back to front. Surely its such social prejudices that    should be just as open to re-engineering?  <\/p>\n<p>    We also have societies where wealthy elites are building a    separate and defensible world from the rest of us. The idea    their offspring might benefit from a growing menu of human    enhancements comes from the bottom of the science-fictional    barrel but it could be all too real.  <\/p>\n<p>    From his new Wuhan fastness, He Jiankui aims to take CRISPRs    blades to the gene sequences that give rise to Alzheimers and    Duchenne muscular dystrophy (a fatal disease causing    unstoppable muscle damage among boys). Should we wish him well?    It feels wrong not to grant him some success.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ian Wilmut was eventually beset himself by Parkinsons. He    noted in a 2019 interview: I think that unexpectedly the Dolly    experiment has revolutionized the approach to these inherited    diseases. I really do genuinely believe that treatments will    come along but it may very well be 50 years before the    treatment becomes routinely available.  <\/p>\n<p>    So people like me will probably have died of Parkinsons    disease before the new treatments become available. Which is a    frustrating thing to think.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yes, thats how a bank clerk might put it. But perhaps we need    more the thoughtful woolly jumper-wearer, than the brash    biological entrepreneur for this next stage of Dollys    legacy.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Link:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/politics\/23793819.can-rely-moral-force-field-stop-cloning-going-far\" title=\"Can we rely on our 'moral force-field' to stop cloning going too far? - The National\" rel=\"noopener\">Can we rely on our 'moral force-field' to stop cloning going too far? - The National<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Ensuring the former, and eradicating the latter, is what the current cutting edge of medical genetics promises. Yet we are still as fearful of playing God with biology as we ever were. 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