{"id":1117476,"date":"2023-08-30T01:26:31","date_gmt":"2023-08-30T05:26:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/mark-meadows-news-the-defense-of-trumps-perfect-phone-call-is-really-something-slate\/"},"modified":"2023-08-30T01:26:31","modified_gmt":"2023-08-30T05:26:31","slug":"mark-meadows-news-the-defense-of-trumps-perfect-phone-call-is-really-something-slate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/donald-trump\/mark-meadows-news-the-defense-of-trumps-perfect-phone-call-is-really-something-slate\/","title":{"rendered":"Mark Meadows news: The defense of Trump&#8217;s perfect phone call is really something. &#8211; Slate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    A recording of the Jan. 2, 2021, phone call during which Donald    Trump asked Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to    help him find 11,780 votes     became public almost immediatelyand was just as quickly    compared to the smoking gun tapes that     helped bring down the Nixon presidency. Fair enough! With    all due respect to     storing classified documents in a resort bathroom, telling    a local official to invalidate the precise number of votes that    would be required to change the outcome of the election is the    thing Trump has done with the most pronounced I dont think    you can do that feel.  <\/p>\n<p>    The call is back in the news this week thanks to former White    House chief of staff Mark Meadows, who testified Monday in a    Georgia hearing related to the Fulton County district    attorneys allegations that he was part of Trumps criminal    conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election. Meadows is     seeking to have his case moved from state court to federal    court on the grounds that he is being prosecuted for activities    that he undertook in his official capacity. Hes hoping that    claim could secure him a more favorable jury pool (itd be    drawn from the more conservative northern district of Georgia    as a whole, rather than just Democratic-leaning Fulton County)    or, if the judge in his case is sufficiently convinced that    Meadows was legally fulfilling executive-branch duties, an    outright dismissal of charges.  <\/p>\n<p>    According to Vox, the judge who listened to Meadows argument    on Monday appeared    skeptical. There are many     problems with the case, but part of the gist is that White    House employees are prohibited by law from attempting to    influence the outcome of elections, and Meadows can be shown to    have known that. As such, one of the things the former chief of    staff argued in court on Monday was that he didnt    realize his late 2020 activities were related to    partisan campaign efforts to overturn the electioni.e., that    he didnt understand the connection between President Donald    Trumps interest in vote-counting procedures in Georgia (and    Michigan) and candidate Donald Trumps ongoing efforts to    reverse the results of voting in those states. From     the Washington Post:  <\/p>\n<p>        On several occasions, Mark Meadows claimed to have no        knowledge of the Trump campaigns efforts to contest the        election results. On Donald Trumps phone call with Georgia        Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, on Jan. 2, 2021,        which Meadows participated in, he said he did not know that        three lawyers on the callCleta Mitchell, Kurt Hilbert and        Alex Kaufmanhad participated in a campaign lawsuit against        Raffensperger.      <\/p>\n<p>    (Meadows said he     didnt remember how Mitchell, a prominent voter-fraud    conspiracy theorist with whom hed previously been in contact,    had ended up on the Georgia call.)  <\/p>\n<p>        In addition, when questioned about an Oval Office meeting        he attended with Trump and Michigan state lawmakers,        Meadows said he didnt know that the campaign was        contesting the results in that state.      <\/p>\n<p>    According to Meadows testimony, he believed at the time that    he was advancing the executive branchs interest in accurate    and fair elections and helping resolve Trumps concerns about    voter fraud in order to eliminate a roadblock to the    transfer of powerin other words, that he did not understand,    in January 2021, that Donald Trump was involved in election    litigation for selfish reasons. (A recent     New York Times piece that documents Meadows history of    vacantly telling whomever he was talking to exactly what they    wanted to hear suggests, troublingly, that this might actually    be true.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Meadows claims are similar to the one that Trump has made    about his own behavior in 2020that he believed the election    was rigged against him as a matter of objective fact, meaning    that his actions were reasonable attempts to secure the correct    outcome. In his telling, the smoking gun was in fact a    perfect    phone call.  <\/p>\n<p>    This line of reasoning was reintroduced to circulation by    right-wing law professor Jonathan Turley on Fox News after the    Fulton County     indictments were announced:  <\/p>\n<p>        You know, it makes perfect sense when youre challenging an        election to say, You know, I only need around 11,000        votes. So if you do a statewide review, thats not a lot        in a state like Georgia. Thats not criminal. Thats making        a case for a recount.      <\/p>\n<p>    Georgia, however, had already     completed two recountsone by hand and one by machineby    the time that Trump and Meadows spoke with Raffensperger. The    fraud allegations the president was pursuing, moreover, were    largely if not     entirely sourced from random social media accounts and    online message boards, and had already been dismissed by his    own administrations Department of Justice.  <\/p>\n<p>    As a legal matter, Trumps contention he truly believed that    voting results were rigged has problems. Among them are the        concept of willful blindness and Trumps alleged statement    that Vice President Mike Pence was     being too honest in his response to the election, which    would seem to imply an awareness that his own conduct was    not honest.  <\/p>\n<p>    Recall, too, that this trial may be taking place during the    presidential campaign. Trump will be defending himself    against a smoking gun by arguing, while his closest advisers    testify that they could not possibly handle a gun without    shooting themselves in the leg, that he believes guns are made    out of cheese. And should he convince 12 jurors in Georgia and    the District of Columbia that he is an insane person with    low-IQ support staff, and secure a not-guilty verdict on the    basis of such a triumph, he will then be asking the rest of his    fellow citizens to reinstall him as president. It seems like a    tall task, but if you think that its impossible, youre    probably the kind of person who is still 100 percent sure that    the moon is made of rocks.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read this article:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/slate.com\/news-and-politics\/2023\/08\/trump-mark-meadows-georgia-phone-call-defense.html\" title=\"Mark Meadows news: The defense of Trump's perfect phone call is really something. - Slate\">Mark Meadows news: The defense of Trump's perfect phone call is really something. - Slate<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> A recording of the Jan. 2, 2021, phone call during which Donald Trump asked Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to help him find 11,780 votes became public almost immediatelyand was just as quickly compared to the smoking gun tapes that helped bring down the Nixon presidency.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/donald-trump\/mark-meadows-news-the-defense-of-trumps-perfect-phone-call-is-really-something-slate\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[257675],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1117476","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-donald-trump"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1117476"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1117476"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1117476\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1117476"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1117476"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1117476"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}