{"id":1116986,"date":"2023-08-12T07:25:16","date_gmt":"2023-08-12T11:25:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/like-fatter-tony-soprano-attending-the-arraignment-and-effecting-emptywheel\/"},"modified":"2023-08-12T07:25:16","modified_gmt":"2023-08-12T11:25:16","slug":"like-fatter-tony-soprano-attending-the-arraignment-and-effecting-emptywheel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fifth-amendment\/like-fatter-tony-soprano-attending-the-arraignment-and-effecting-emptywheel\/","title":{"rendered":"&quot;Like fatter Tony Soprano Attending the Arraignment and &quot;Effect[ing &#8230; &#8211; Emptywheel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Two amusing phrases from yesterdays news provide a wonderful    opportunity to talk about how Trump will continue to manipulate    his prosecution.  <\/p>\n<p>    First, Peter Navarro continues to seek ways to stall his    long-delayed trial on contempt charges, which is scheduled to    start next month. In advance of his trial, Judge Amit Mehta has    granted him an evidentiary hearing so Navarro can attempt to    prove that the former President told him to invoke both    testimonial immunity and executive privilege, as Trump did with    Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino (which is almost certainly a big    part of why they werent charged with contempt).  <\/p>\n<p>    When granting Navarro the hearing, though, Mehta noted that Navarro has thus    far not presented any evidence that Trump told him not    to testify, and hell need to find formal evidence.  <\/p>\n<p>      [T]he court does not at this time prejudge what type or      manner of instruction from President Trump might suffice to      constitute a formal assertion of privilege or immunity. See      United States v. Navarro, No. 22-cr-200 (APM), 2023 WL      371968, at *23 (D.D.C. Jan. 19, 2023). The court previously      left that question unanswered because Defendant had not come      forward with any evidence of a presidential      invocation. Id.; Jan. Hrg Tr. at 12. Defendants burden will      include showing that the claimed instruction to invoke was a      formal one.    <\/p>\n<p>    Now, Navarro is attempting to delay both hearings because    LizHarrington, Trumps spox, is due to give birth.  <\/p>\n<p>    The first two filings in this dispute (Navarro, DOJ) included redacted bits    and exhibits explaining how Trumps spokesperson could prove    that Trump invoked testimonial immunity and executive    privilege, though DOJ did make clear that they believe    Harringtons testimony is inadmissible. Navarros response    provides more detail: He wants Harrington to describe how he    wrote a press statement she could release claiming Trump had    invoked executive privilege (but not testimonial immunity).  <\/p>\n<p>    Along the way, he reveals that Harrington testified to the    grand jury and DOJ believes his proffer of her testimony    materially conflicts with what DOJ locked her into saying.  <\/p>\n<p>      Its clear from the Governments Opposition that it would      prefer that Ms. Harrington not testify at the evidentiary      hearing.1 Although it claims that her testimony is generally      speaking not in dispute, it challenges its relevance of the      calls she had with Dr. Navarro and the email she received      from him on February 9, 2022, the day the J6 Committee served      its subpoena. Opp. n.1. Standing alone, Ms. Harringtons      testimony does not prove that former President Trump      instructed Dr. Navarro to assert executive privilege in      response to the Committees subpoena. But the testimony is      corroborative of other evidence  including Dr. Navarros      anticipated testimony  that he was following President      Trumps instructions when he notified the Committee that it      should negotiate the privilege issue with its holder.2    <\/p>\n<p>      Ms. Harrington will explain that after being served with the      subpoena, Dr. Navarro called her and then followed up by      sending the media statement he planned to publicly issue that      day. The statement explained that President Trump had      asserted executive privilege and noted that the J6 Committee      should negotiate any waiver of the privilege with his      attorneys and him. Ms. Harrington conveyed the statement to      two of President Trumps administrative assistants and, later      that day, Dr. Navarro publicly released the statement. See      Defense Exhibit 7    <\/p>\n<p>      1 In its zeal to prosecute Dr. Navarro and keep Ms.      Harrington from testifying, the Government has implicitly      threatened her with perjury if she intends to testify      inconsistent with her grand jury testimony and that she      must first waive her Fifth Amendment right not to      incriminate herself. Opp. at 3. This assertion is at odds      with long-standing precedent that: Our legal system provides      methods for challenging the Governments right to ask      questions  lying is not one of them, United States v. Wong,      431 U.S. 174, 178 (1977), and so, [e]ven constitutionally      explicit Fifth Amendment privileges do not exonerate      affirmative false statements. United States v. North, 708 F.      Supp. 380, 383 (D.D.C. 1988) (citing Wong, 431 U.S. at 178).      Regardless of whether Ms. Harrington could assert the Fifth      Amendment to avoid what the government submits would be      perjured testimony, the reality is that Mr. Harringtons      anticipated testimony is wholly consistent with her grand      jury testimony  the government just failed to ask probative      follow up questions of her at the time.    <\/p>\n<p>    Then, Navarros lawyers  the lawyer he shares with Kash Patel    and Walt Nauta, Stan Woodward, the lawyer he shares with Carlos    De Oliveira, John Irving, and the lawyer he used to share with    Trump himself, John Rowley  attempt to disclaim simply using    Harringtons pregnancy as an excuse for delay.  <\/p>\n<p>      The Government alleges without any basis that Dr. Navarros      request for continuance of the hearing is strategic and      done for improper reasons. Opp. at 1-2. Leaving aside the      personal attack on defense counsel, there is no plausible      strategic reason for the request and the Government provides      none  Ms. Harringtons pregnancy is not      effected by the timing of the filing of Dr.      Navarros motion. No prejudice to the Government      would result from a short continuance and it would be      fundamentally unfair to Dr. Navarro to deny calling Ms.      Harrington as a witness on his behalf. [my emphasis]    <\/p>\n<p>    But along the way, because they used effected instead of    affected, they literally    deny that the act of filing Navarros motion did not cause    Harringtons pregnancy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Im sure it didnt.  <\/p>\n<p>    But it also appears to be the case that DOJ locked Harrington     who may be the only one in Trumps camp that Navarro spoke to    during the period when he was subpoenaed  into testimony about    the substance of their communication. And now Navarro is trying    to admit his own hearsay to prove that Trump, absent any    written filing, told Navarro to invoke both testimonial    immunity (of which theres no known evidence) and to raise    executive privilege in the same informal way he did with Steve    Bannon, which did not work for Bannon at trial but which is the    substance of his appeal.  <\/p>\n<p>    Mehta has called a pre-hearing hearing late this afternoon to    sort all this out.  <\/p>\n<p>    That phrase  Ms. Harringtons pregnancy is not effected by    the timing of the filing of Dr. Navarros motion would have    been my favorite Trump-related phrase yesterday, if not for the    description of Boris Epshteyn in this story of how he    allegedly molested two women after getting drunk and    belligerent at a bar in Scottsdale in 2021.  <\/p>\n<p>      We have a high tolerance of people like being weird, but      that went above and beyond, she said, adding that the man      grabbed the women about 10 times. I was like, stop touching      my sister. Stop touching me. Stop touching my friends.    <\/p>\n<p>      Police asked the older sister to describe Epshteyn.    <\/p>\n<p>      Fat, ugly, like drooping face. White Ralph Lauren Polo, she      said. Like fatter Tony Soprano.    <\/p>\n<p>      An officer asked: Would you be willing to press charges?    <\/p>\n<p>      She responded: Yes. (Expletive) that guy.    <\/p>\n<p>    The NYT  including Maggie Haberman  had reported directly from the    arrest report in a beat sweetener burying this and even more    damning criminal exposure earlier this year, but had left out    the fat part.  <\/p>\n<p>    Im using the phrase Like fatter Tony Soprano as my excuse to    pick up an observation that William Ockham    made yesterday about DOJs proposed schedule for a    Trump trial on the January 6 charges.  <\/p>\n<p>      Furthermore, the defendant and his counsel have long been      aware of details of the Governments investigation leading to      his indictment, having had first contact with Government      counsel in June 2022. Indeed, at his initial appearance, the      defendant was accompanied by an attorney familiar with      certain relevant pre-indictment information. In sum, the      defendant has a greater and more detailed understanding of      the evidence supporting the charges against him at the outset      of this criminal case than most defendants, and is ably      advised by multiple attorneys, including some who have      represented him in this matter for the last year.    <\/p>\n<p>    In addition to noting that Trumps attorneys have been aware of    the course of this investigation because of repeated contacts    with prosecutors going back to June 2022  including Executive    Privilege challenges to the testimony of Marc Short, Greg    Jacob, Pat Cipollone, Pat Philbin, Mark Meadows, John    Ratcliffe, Robert OBrien, Ken Cuccinelli, and Mike Pence  it    also noted that an attorney familiar with certain relevant    pre-indictment information accompanied him to his arraignment.  <\/p>\n<p>    I agree with Ockhams supposition that thats a reference to    Boris like fatter Tony Soprano Epshteyn. Boris attended the    arraignment  as he has some or all of Trumps  but was not an    attorney of record.  <\/p>\n<p>    Back in April, before Rudy or Mike Roman or Bernie Kerik did    so, Boris spent two days in interviews    with Jack Smith and his prosecutors in what the press got told    was a proffer.  <\/p>\n<p>      The interview was largely focused on the efforts by former      President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn Trumps      2020 election loss. The second day of questioning was planned      in advance, the sources said.    <\/p>\n<p>      Epshteyn did not immediately respond to a request for comment      from ABC News.    <\/p>\n<p>      Prosecutors questions focused around Epshteyns interactions      with former Trump attorneys Rudy Giuliani, Kenneth Chesebro      and John Eastman, in addition to Trump himself, according to      sources.    <\/p>\n<p>    If the allusion in the proposed schedule is a reference to    Epshteyns interviews, it confirms my general suspicion that    Smith is using proffers as a way to get key subjects of the    investigation on the record, rather than necessarily flipping    them. It suggests that Smith is willing to show a few of the    cards he has  at least on the prosecution focused largely on    facts that were already public last year  in order to lock key    subjects in on their testimony, just as DOJ would have been    doing with Liz Harringtons grand jury appearance.  <\/p>\n<p>    But because Todd Blanche is an attorney of record for both    Trump and Boris, this proffer would have been an especially    obvious way for Trump to obtain information about the    prosecution against him. In both the January 6 case and the    stolen documents one, Boris is playing both a suspected    co-conspirator and advisor on how to blow up the prosecution    for political gain.  <\/p>\n<p>    And that is why, I suspect, DOJ is    being so particular about whether volunteer attorneys    might include co-conspirators who also happen to be lawyers.  <\/p>\n<p>      Without a clearly defined relationship of employment or      privilege, this language is boundless. For example, several      co-conspirators are identified as attorneys, whom the defense      might interpret as other attorneys assisting counsel of      record. The Court should not accept the edit.    <\/p>\n<p>    The method to both of these defense ploys is the same. It rests    on an inter-locking and wildly conflicted set of attorney    relationships to create  in first instance  an omert leading    many key witnesses to give partial testimony which, as both    cases, plus Navarros, move toward trial, will evolve into an    effort to rework existing sworn testimony to create some flimsy    story for Trump or Navarro to use to attempt to stay out of    prison. This is what DOJ has spent much of the last 14 months    preparing for: Trumps attempt to move the goalposts once he    discovered how much of the truth prosecutors had uncovered.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its not, just, that DOJ has to try the former President in at    least two venues, an already unprecedented task. Its that the    entire criminal gang is gambling that if they just get beyond    the election, any and all lies can be excused in a wave of    pardons like Trump used to escape his Russian exposure.  <\/p>\n<p>    Update: CNNs Katelyn Polantz suggested that the reference to    lawyer accompanying Trump may be Evan Corcoran. Corcoran was a    part of all the sealed proceedings going back 9 months.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.emptywheel.net\/2023\/08\/11\/like-fatter-tony-soprano-attending-the-arraignment-and-effecting-liz-harringtons-pregnancy\" title=\"&quot;Like fatter Tony Soprano Attending the Arraignment and &quot;Effect[ing ... - Emptywheel\" rel=\"noopener\">&quot;Like fatter Tony Soprano Attending the Arraignment and &quot;Effect[ing ... - Emptywheel<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Two amusing phrases from yesterdays news provide a wonderful opportunity to talk about how Trump will continue to manipulate his prosecution. First, Peter Navarro continues to seek ways to stall his long-delayed trial on contempt charges, which is scheduled to start next month. In advance of his trial, Judge Amit Mehta has granted him an evidentiary hearing so Navarro can attempt to prove that the former President told him to invoke both testimonial immunity and executive privilege, as Trump did with Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino (which is almost certainly a big part of why they werent charged with contempt).  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fifth-amendment\/like-fatter-tony-soprano-attending-the-arraignment-and-effecting-emptywheel\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94880],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1116986","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fifth-amendment"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1116986"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1116986"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1116986\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1116986"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1116986"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1116986"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}