{"id":1116187,"date":"2023-07-09T02:56:05","date_gmt":"2023-07-09T06:56:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/elon-musk-believes-tesla-will-have-level-4-or-5-self-driving-this-year-electrek\/"},"modified":"2023-07-09T02:56:05","modified_gmt":"2023-07-09T06:56:05","slug":"elon-musk-believes-tesla-will-have-level-4-or-5-self-driving-this-year-electrek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/elon-musk\/elon-musk-believes-tesla-will-have-level-4-or-5-self-driving-this-year-electrek\/","title":{"rendered":"Elon Musk believes Tesla will have &#8216;level 4 or 5&#8217; self-driving this year &#8230; &#8211; Electrek"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Elon Musk has again decided to share a timeline about Teslas    self-driving effort  again claiming it will achieve full    self-driving by the end of the year.  <\/p>\n<p>    But this time, the CEO has mentioned level 4 or 5    self-driving. However, its not clear if he knows what that    means.  <\/p>\n<p>    Over the years, Musk has claimed that Tesla was on the verge of    achieving full self-driving capability so often that it is    hard to believe him now.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its not only hard to believe, but its also even hard to    understand what the actual goal is at this point.  <\/p>\n<p>    Teslas original promise was quite clear: Every car sold since    2016 will be able to drive entirely by itself at a level safer    than humans through software updates in the future.  <\/p>\n<p>    At times, level 5 SAE autonomy was mentioned by Musk, along    with the ability to go to sleep while the car drives you    around.  <\/p>\n<p>    But since Tesla released its Full Self-Driving (FSD) Beta,    these previously clear goals have become more vague and    disappointing.  <\/p>\n<p>    Tesla started using terms like feature complete and capable    of driving at a level safer than humans with FSD Beta.    However, it has become less clear how Tesla plans to get the    FSD out of beta and into a product that can actually be useful,    like a robot taxi service.  <\/p>\n<p>    It looks like Tesla has softened its language after missing its    goal and timeline a few times, and Musk had mostly stopped    making clear timeline predictions until recently.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the last few months, he mentioned a few times that he    believes Tesla will achieve full autonomy by the    end of the year  though he remained vague about what form    it will take.  <\/p>\n<p>    In a recent comment about Teslas self-driving effort at an AI    conference in China, the CEO has used new language that makes    things a bit more interesting:  <\/p>\n<p>      In terms of whereTesla is at this stage, I think we are      very close to achieving full self-driving without human      supervision. This is only speculation, but I think well      achieve full self-driving, maybe what you would call four or      five, I think later this year.    <\/p>\n<p>    The important terms here are without human supervision and    four or five  although, for the latter, Musk doesnt seem to    know what he is talking about.  <\/p>\n<p>    The driving automation levels are based on the SAE standards,    which this chart summarizes well:  <\/p>\n<p>    The most significant aspect of the jump from level 2 to level 3    is that the responsibility falls with the system (not the    driver) starting from level 3 and up.  <\/p>\n<p>    Meanwhile, the major difference between levels 4 and 5 is that    the latter is supposed to be able to drive in any condition    anywhere.  <\/p>\n<p>    The fact that Elon casually says 4 or 5 is maddening to me.    Its such a massive difference, and he should know better than    keep talking about level 5.  <\/p>\n<p>    Technically, thats what he promised before, but I think its    clearly unachievable with current hardware. You just need to    try to use Autopilot in the snow and even heavy rain to see    that you often get weather alerts about the sensors being    covered, and the system requires you to take over.  <\/p>\n<p>    Even level 4 is questionable, as FSD Beta often asks drivers to    take over in seemingly good conditions. I can see level 3    happening for Tesla, but the company somehow doesnt seem to be    interested in that.  <\/p>\n<p>    We are already halfway through the year. Elons timeline is    literally a few months away. I cant believe it can confidently    keep claiming this is happening.  <\/p>\n<p>      FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links.      More.    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Excerpt from: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2023\/07\/06\/elon-musk-tesla-level-4-or-5-self-driving-this-year\/\" title=\"Elon Musk believes Tesla will have 'level 4 or 5' self-driving this year ... - Electrek\">Elon Musk believes Tesla will have 'level 4 or 5' self-driving this year ... - Electrek<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Elon Musk has again decided to share a timeline about Teslas self-driving effort again claiming it will achieve full self-driving by the end of the year. But this time, the CEO has mentioned level 4 or 5 self-driving.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/elon-musk\/elon-musk-believes-tesla-will-have-level-4-or-5-self-driving-this-year-electrek\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[411092],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1116187","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-elon-musk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1116187"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1116187"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1116187\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1116187"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1116187"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1116187"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}