{"id":1115708,"date":"2023-06-20T20:40:12","date_gmt":"2023-06-21T00:40:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/ai-meets-the-other-ai-politico-politico\/"},"modified":"2023-06-20T20:40:12","modified_gmt":"2023-06-21T00:40:12","slug":"ai-meets-the-other-ai-politico-politico","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/superintelligence\/ai-meets-the-other-ai-politico-politico\/","title":{"rendered":"AI meets the other AI &#8211; POLITICO &#8211; POLITICO"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>        With help from Derek Robertson  <\/p>\n<p>              A sign directs travelers to the start of the \"1947              UFO Crash Site Tours\" in Roswell, N.M., on June 10,              1997. | Eric Draper\/AP Photo            <\/p>\n<p>    If the explosion of artificial intelligence werent    mind-boggling enough, Washington is now confronting the    possibility of another, weirder, AI: alien intelligence.  <\/p>\n<p>    After a former intelligence official went public earlier this    month with claims that he was told by other officials of a    secret government program that possesses downed alien    spacecraft, the House Oversight Committee has announced plans for a hearing on the    matter.  <\/p>\n<p>    And former deputy assistant secretary of defense for    intelligence Christopher Mellon, now with Harvards    alien-focused Galileo Project, wrote in POLITICO Magazine that    he has referred four people to the    Pentagons UFO office who say they have knowledge of secret    government efforts to study off-world craft.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Pentagon has said its UFO program has not discovered any    verifiable information to substantiate claims about downed    craft, and many stories about aliens and UFOs have been shown    to result from some combination of delusion, confusion and    disinformation.  <\/p>\n<p>    But here at DFD, we like to keep an open mind.  <\/p>\n<p>    After all, magic internet money, killer robots and AI itself    were all the stuff of futuristic sci-fi before they became    political hot potatoes in the present.  <\/p>\n<p>    And it turns out that AI, in particular, has a thing or two to    teach us about the possible existence of its extraterrestrial    cousin.  <\/p>\n<p>    To help us wrap our heads around this, we caught up with Ravi    Starzl, an AI-focused computer science professor at Carnegie    Mellon. Starzl is also an adviser to Americans for Safe    Aerospace, an advocacy group founded by former Navy fighter    pilot Ryan Graves, who has been calling attention to the UFO    phenomenon since reporting a series of sightings that took place in 2014    and 2015 to Congress and the Pentagon.  <\/p>\n<p>    At a practical level, how can AI help with identifying    UFOs?  <\/p>\n<p>    Ive been helping some organizations develop machine learning    algorithms and systems for being able to identify and    characterize unknown aerial phenomena based on multimodal    domains of data. So visual, textual, audio, radar.  <\/p>\n<p>    Machine learning, and AI in particular, will be able to process    the vast quantities of information that exist, make sense of    it, and actually turn it into interpretable insights and even    actionable information  <\/p>\n<p>    You need to be able to separate hoaxes and fakes from genuine    phenomena and machine learning is extremely useful for that.  <\/p>\n<p>    At a more abstract level, Ryan Graves has argued that the    process occurring right now, in which human societies are    grappling with the rise of AI, will prepare them to grapple    with the possible existence of alien intelligence. What do you    think?  <\/p>\n<p>    Its dead on.  <\/p>\n<p>    A real value in the current craze is its forcing people to    start to think about the fact that we are not the only    cognitive entities operating in our world anymore. Theyre    still not that sophisticated compared to where the fundamentals    of that technology can take it. But we can still have a    conversation with it right now and it can do work for us and it    can give us ideas we didnt have.  <\/p>\n<p>    That process of learning how to interact with a fundamentally    alien, if you will, intelligence is going to open the whole    zeitgeist up.  <\/p>\n<p>    It sounds like an exciting time to be studying    intelligence.  <\/p>\n<p>    Were going to be very busy and living in very interesting    times for the next 20 years as these things start to merge,    diverge, and get analyzed and brought more into the mainstream.  <\/p>\n<p>    When you say these things Do you mean human-created AI, Or    are you also talking about possible alien intelligence?  <\/p>\n<p>    I guess in my mind, Im having a hard time seeing the    difference.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, at a certain level, Its all just different forms of    intelligence?  <\/p>\n<p>    This is a question that has been wrestled with, What does it    mean to have the other?  <\/p>\n<p>    At some level, two humans are alien intelligences. Because one,    they each have their own cognitive sphere. They each have their    own mental models of reality. And they have to exchange    information in order to collaborate.  <\/p>\n<p>    That same phenomenon, like a matryoshka doll, just continues    outward when youre dealing with super-organisms like    societies.  <\/p>\n<p>    And then from there you have formations interacting with other    formations at the superintelligence level. So in many respects    the question of, Is there alien intelligence and how would we    deal with it? has already been answered definitively. Yes,    because its already with us.  <\/p>\n<p>    But now the question becomes how exotic, what processes created    it, and how do we establish a more efficient or more consistent    or coherent or safe way of interacting with it and    understanding it and learning from it?  <\/p>\n<p>        A message from American Edge Project:      <\/p>\n<p>          How American Values Can Keep The Global Internet Free,          Open And Accessible          Since the early days of the internet, the United States          has led the world in advocating to keep it free and open.          America has championed the values of free expression and          open trade, of participatory governance, and of          technological advancement that promotes freedom,          opportunity, and equality. Read our policy report here.        <\/p>\n<p>              POLITICO illustration\/Photos by Wikimedia Commons,              iStock            <\/p>\n<p>    Sometimes in order to steer the future, you need to    learn a little bit from the past.  <\/p>\n<p>    Writing in POLITICO Magazine, this weekend, Vanderbilt    University professor Ganesh Sitaraman proposes that lawmakers    wrangling with how to regulate young Americas favorite Chinese-owned    app TikTok reflect on some pre-World War II American    history.  <\/p>\n<p>    [D]ebates over foreign ownership of the means of communication    is part of an important history and tradition in American law,    Sitaraman writes, arguing that lawmakers should take a    platform-utilities approach to    TikTok that would ensure American influence over its    governance.  <\/p>\n<p>    If lawmakers want to take a lesson from the long American    tradition of regulated capitalism, they should advance    comprehensive legislation to regulate tech platforms more like    public utilities, Sitaraman writes. Such legislation should    include restrictions on foreign ownership and control, which    could apply to all tech platforms from adversarial countries.    Comprehensive legislation should also include sectoral    standards that apply to U.S. firms as well  standards not just    on data collection, surveillance and privacy, but also against    anti-competitive behavior, all tech policy topics that have    relevance far beyond just TikTok itself.  Derek    Robertson  <\/p>\n<p>        A message from American Edge Project:      <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>              The Apple Vision Pro headset is displayed in a              showroom on the Apple campus Monday, June 5, 2023, in              Cupertino, Calif. (AP Photo\/Jeff Chiu) | AP            <\/p>\n<p>    If Apples Reality Pro headset does turn out to be the    future-defining device that finally gets virtual and augmented    reality into American homes, we might not begin to see the    effects for a long while.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thats what tech analyst Benedict Evans predicts in a new essay, comparing it to the    iPhone and writing We know today that the iPhone worked, but    Apple still had to change the business model, expand    distribution and build a lot more product. Sales didnt really    take off for five years and the launch was pretty soft.  [I]t    seems unlikely that this will be as big as the iPhone in the    next few years, and more likely even then that it will look    more like the iPad  which is a pretty good business.  <\/p>\n<p>    Indeed, he writes that maybe the most revealing thing about the    Reality Pro launch so far is in what it says about just how    much raw capital Apple has to expend on experimenting with such    devices. He notes that Apple had $280 billion in free cash flow    over just the past three years to play with, helping to power    the silicon and manufacturing mastery that made the Reality Pro    possible  and which will pose a formidable challenge to the    likes of Meta in their new competition.  Derek    Robertson  <\/p>\n<p>    Stay in touch with the whole team: Ben Schreckinger    ([emailprotected]);    Derek Robertson ([emailprotected]);    Mohar Chatterjee ([emailprotected]);    and Steve Heuser ([emailprotected]).    Follow us @DigitalFuture on    Twitter.  <\/p>\n<p>    If youve had this newsletter forwarded to you, you can    sign up and read    our mission statement at    the links provided.  <\/p>\n<p>        A message from American Edge Project:      <\/p>\n<p>          Three Pillars For A Free And Open Internet        <\/p>\n<p>          We need to craft a policy agenda rooted in three pillars:          combatting digital authoritarianism, promoting free          speech within and across borders, and building a stronger          internet to connect people to each other and to their          governments.        <\/p>\n<p>          Learn more.        <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Originally posted here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/newsletters\/digital-future-daily\/2023\/06\/20\/ai-meets-the-other-ai-00102742\" title=\"AI meets the other AI - POLITICO - POLITICO\">AI meets the other AI - POLITICO - POLITICO<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> With help from Derek Robertson A sign directs travelers to the start of the \"1947 UFO Crash Site Tours\" in Roswell, N.M., on June 10, 1997. | Eric Draper\/AP Photo If the explosion of artificial intelligence werent mind-boggling enough, Washington is now confronting the possibility of another, weirder, AI: alien intelligence. 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