{"id":1114960,"date":"2023-05-30T00:09:16","date_gmt":"2023-05-30T04:09:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/uncategorized\/gilbert-mesa-lawmakers-unimpressed-with-democrats-reason-for-daily-independent\/"},"modified":"2023-05-30T00:09:16","modified_gmt":"2023-05-30T04:09:16","slug":"gilbert-mesa-lawmakers-unimpressed-with-democrats-reason-for-daily-independent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/democrat\/gilbert-mesa-lawmakers-unimpressed-with-democrats-reason-for-daily-independent\/","title":{"rendered":"Gilbert, Mesa lawmakers unimpressed with Democrat&#8217;s reason for &#8230; &#8211; Daily Independent"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    PHOENIX  A Gilbert lawmaker called \"a little bit disingenuous\"    a Tucson Democrats contention that she hid Bibles at the    Arizona Capitol as a peaceful protest.  <\/p>\n<p>    Rep. Stephanie Stahl Hamilton has publicly stated she was    trying to make a \"playful'' point about the separation of    church and state when she moved the Bibles that normally are in    the members' lounge, putting them at various times underneath    the cushions of chairs and, at one point, in a refrigerator.  <\/p>\n<p>    And she said she was trying to start a \"conversation'' about    the issue, though she conceded that should have started with    talking to someone and not hiding the books.  <\/p>\n<p>    But Rep. Travis Grantham, R-Gilbert, one of three Republicans    on the five-member House Ethics Committee, said during    Thursday's hearing the explanation about a protest doesn't ring    true.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"I find it a little bit disingenuous,'' he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"How is having a Bible sitting on a table somehow a violation    of church and state?'' Grantham asked. \"Did she feel like she    was being coerced to follow a certain religion?''  <\/p>\n<p>    Rep. Justin Heap, R-Mesa, one of three Republicans who filed    the complaint with the committee, acknowledged he did not    witness Stahl Hamilton's actions in hiding the Bibles that are    in the members' lounge, the last of three incidents caught    April 10 on a hidden camera set up by House staff.  <\/p>\n<p>    But he said Thursday he was still offended after the videotape    became public and the issue gained national attention. And Heap    said he believes some action against Stahl Hamilton is    appropriate.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"What was particularly disturbing to me is not simply that    these Bibles were removed but the photos of where these Bibles    were placed, in a refrigerator and under the cushions of chairs    where I and other members and lobbyists sit,'' he told the    Ethics Committee.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"I sit in those chairs,'' Heap said.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"So now I have to deal with the question of, at some point    while these Bibles were missing, was I sitting on my own sacred    text?''  <\/p>\n<p>    Republicans on the House Ethics Committee sought to question    Stahl Hamilton Thursday on her claim that her decision to hide    Bibles amounted to a joke and a peaceful protest.  <\/p>\n<p>    But she wasn't there, having made what she told Capitol Media    Services was a decision not to attend on \"the advice of my    excellent lawyers.''  <\/p>\n<p>    And that left the members of the GOP-dominated panel frustrated    as they decide whether to recommend some punishment for her.  <\/p>\n<p>    Rep. Joseph Chaplik, R-Scottsdale, who chairs the panel,    acknowledged she was under no obligation to appear personally.    And he said he won't hold that against her when recommending    what punishment, if any, is appropriate.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"But I think it would have been more effective for her if she    was here to give some light to some of our questions that were    directed directly at her,'' Chaplik told Capitol Media Services    after the hearing.  <\/p>\n<p>    He said a final decision will come after lawmakers consult with    attorneys to determine if her actions rise to the level of    violating House ethics rules on the conduct of members, with a    target of June 12 to make a recommendation to the full House.  <\/p>\n<p>    Rep. Jennifer Longdon of Phoenix, one of the two Democrats on    the panel, pointed out to Heap that Stahl Hamilton publicy    apologized and asked him if he accepted that.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"I do appreciate her apology, but it can't be escaped that    apology came only after the actions had been known, she was    informed this had been caught on video and that this became an    issue of national concern,'' Heap said.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"So that does put a shadow over the sincerity of the apology    though if she is sincere I accept it,'' he continued. \"But I    think that question is irrelevant to the question of was her    behavior appropriate.''  <\/p>\n<p>    Grantham also raised questions about what he said, using air    quotes, was her \"apology.''  <\/p>\n<p>    \"She didn't apologize for the action,'' he said. \"She    apologized for the offense of anyone who thought that action    was inappropriate.''  <\/p>\n<p>    Rodriguez said Stahl Hamilton meant no disrespect to the House.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"However, she also has the utmost respect for her First    Amendment rights to engage in peaceful protest,'' he said. \"And    we would describe what she did as a peaceful protest.''  <\/p>\n<p>    Wed like to invite our readers to submit their civil    comments, pro or con, on this issue. Email <a href=\"mailto:AZOpinions@iniusa.org\">AZOpinions@iniusa.org<\/a>.  <\/p>\n<p>      Howard Fischer    <\/p>\n<p>      @azcapmedia    <\/p>\n<p>      @azcapmedia    <\/p>\n<p>      Mr. Fischer, a longtime award-winning Arizona journalist, is      founder and operator of Capitol Media Services.    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>View original post here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.yourvalley.net\/stories\/gilbert-mesa-lawmakers-unimpressed-with-democrats-reason-for-hiding-bibles-at-capitol,398474\" title=\"Gilbert, Mesa lawmakers unimpressed with Democrat's reason for ... - Daily Independent\">Gilbert, Mesa lawmakers unimpressed with Democrat's reason for ... - Daily Independent<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> PHOENIX A Gilbert lawmaker called \"a little bit disingenuous\" a Tucson Democrats contention that she hid Bibles at the Arizona Capitol as a peaceful protest. 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