{"id":9045,"date":"2010-02-17T22:08:24","date_gmt":"2010-02-17T22:08:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/how-can-insurers-use-dtc-genomics-to-profile\/"},"modified":"2010-02-17T22:08:24","modified_gmt":"2010-02-17T22:08:24","slug":"how-can-insurers-use-dtc-genomics-to-profile","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/genetic-medicine\/how-can-insurers-use-dtc-genomics-to-profile.php","title":{"rendered":"How can insurers use DTC genomics to profile?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_H2O5TGQzVII\/S3qX6tfbHZI\/AAAAAAAABNU\/NJjMj983DvU\/s1600-h\/the-tin-man.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\" src=\"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/36ed4_the-tin-man.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><br><span><span>The Answer: They float a trial balloon in the Merry '<span>Ol<\/span> Land of Oz......<\/span><\/span><\/p><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>So when everyone pointed out to me that this NIB in Australia was offering deep discount <span>Navigenics<\/span> tests, I laughed.......Why?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>You did see the story on <\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/id\/233494\"><span><span><span>DeCode<\/span> in Newsweek<\/span><\/span><\/a><span><span> and the fate of <span>deCodeMe<\/span> right?<\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/geneticfuture\/2010\/02\/the_end_for_the_decodeme_perso.php\"><span><span> Or Daniel's blog?<\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>You see, these little <span>SNP<\/span> chips have got to find a market or they will soon die. Even worse, these little <span>SNP<\/span> tests have got to find a market soon or they will die too.......<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>And maybe the companies associated (Not the people mind you) with them?<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>So when I posted about the <span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.humana.com\/providers\/newsletters\/HumanaWebSummer02\/articles\/letter.html\">Humana<\/a><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.humana.com\/providers\/newsletters\/HumanaWebSummer02\/articles\/letter.html\"> Executive who was running <\/a><span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.humana.com\/providers\/newsletters\/HumanaWebSummer02\/articles\/letter.html\">Navigenics<\/a><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.humana.com\/providers\/newsletters\/HumanaWebSummer02\/articles\/letter.html\"> <\/a>after Mari Hit the Road and the high likelihood of <span>Navigenics<\/span> trying to find an insurance partner for their little charade.....<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>That is precisely what I thought when I saw the presser from <span>Navi<\/span> about Jack Lord, <span>Humana's<\/span> \"Innovation\" director running <span>Navi<\/span>.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>I thought, which Insurer would be stupid enough to use the <span>DTC<\/span> genomic tests to profile patients' risks for disease.....<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>Well, it turns out that they aren't so stupid over here. Instead, they convince some company in 'Oz to do it as a \"trial balloon\"<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>Guess what? It has failed. Thanks to <span>bloggers<\/span> like Daniel and reporters like Kerry O'Brien<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><a href=\"http:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/7.30\/content\/2010\/s2820385.htm\"><span><span>Little '<span>Ol<\/span> <span>NIB's<\/span> Mark <span>Fitzgibbon<\/span> gets flayed on TV<\/span><\/span><\/a><\/div><div><span><span><b><br><\/b><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><b>\"<\/b><\/span><\/span><span><span><span><b>KERRY O'BRIEN: Are you aware the American Medical Association recommends that a doctor should always be involved in a person's genetic testing and that according to The Washington Post the lack of doctor involvement in precisely these kinds of tests has made the tests technically illegal in some American states.<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div><p><span><span><span><b> MARK <span>FITZGIBBON<\/span>: No, I wasn't aware of those findings, but again using my example I took my test to the doctor. Now, if we need to do more in terms of encouraging people to take these tests to their doctors, we're already offering a counselling service, an advice service as part of the product offering. Maybe that's what we'll do. And this is very much in a pilot stage.\"<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p><div><span><span><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><span><span>Oops, did <span>KPCB<\/span> forget to tell NIB that this was Illegal in some states?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span><span><span>So much for Due Diligence.....try Google next time Fellas....<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><b><span><span><span><br><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><\/span><\/div><div><span><b><span><span><span>The Sherpa Says: If there is any question how I feel about this test clinically,<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><a href=\"http:\/\/thegenesherpa.blogspot.com\/2009\/05\/easy-way-to-find-overconfident-and_586.html\"><b><span><span><span> you can read here<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><\/a><b><span><span><span>. But as to my thoughts on using it to estimate community risk pooling for insurance. Didn't GINA outlaw that?<br><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><\/span><div><\/div><\/div><div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/69c07_6173393362223742012-1876295460007383189?l=thegenesherpa.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Answer: They float a trial balloon in the Merry 'Ol Land of Oz......So when everyone pointed out to me that this NIB in Australia was offering deep discount Navigenics tests, I laughed.......Why?You did see the story on DeCode in &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/genetic-medicine\/how-can-insurers-use-dtc-genomics-to-profile.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9045","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-genetic-medicine"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9045"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9045"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9045\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9045"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9045"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9045"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}