{"id":445126,"date":"2020-10-08T01:10:56","date_gmt":"2020-10-08T05:10:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/elon-musk-just-dissed-russias-new-reusable-rocket-design.php"},"modified":"2020-10-08T01:10:56","modified_gmt":"2020-10-08T05:10:56","slug":"elon-musk-just-dissed-russias-new-reusable-rocket-design","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/futurism\/elon-musk-just-dissed-russias-new-reusable-rocket-design.php","title":{"rendered":"Elon Musk Just Dissed Russia\u2019s New Reusable Rocket Design"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p><div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"158\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-assets.futurism.com\/2020\/10\/elon-musk-dissed-russia-new-rocket-design-300x158.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image\" alt=\"Russia's space corporation just unveiled plans for its \" amur rocket a design that has some striking similarities with spacex falcon style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\"><\/div><p>Russia&rsquo;s space corporation Roscosmos <a href=\"https:\/\/www.roscosmos.ru\/29357\/\">unveiled plans<\/a> for its reusable &ldquo;Amur rocket&rdquo; this week &mdash; a design,&nbsp;planned to be completed by 2016, that borrows heavily from SpaceX&rsquo;s Falcon 9, as <em>Ars Technica<\/em>&lsquo;s senior space reporter Eric Berger pointed out in a <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SciGuySpace\/status\/1313165995452903425\">Monday tweet<\/a>.<\/p><p>SpaceX CEO Elon Musk quickly waded into the discourse, throwing some shade at the new design.<\/p><p>&ldquo;It&rsquo;s a step in the right direction, but they should really aim for full reusability by 2026,&rdquo; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1313284721426796546\">Musk tweeted<\/a>. &ldquo;Larger rocket would also make sense for literal economies of scale. Goal should be to minimize cost per useful ton to orbit or it will at best serve a niche market.&rdquo;<\/p><blockquote data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Russia has clearly decided that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em with its new design for a reusable booster. Alas, no flights until at least 2026 means it will be at least 15 years behind the Falcon 9. Russia is lucky SpaceX doesn't innovate, hah.<br> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/868cMPa3aO\">https:\/\/t.co\/868cMPa3aO<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/NTWQSyfXRp\">pic.twitter.com\/NTWQSyfXRp<\/a><\/p><p>&mdash; Eric Berger (@SciGuySpace) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SciGuySpace\/status\/1313165995452903425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 5, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote><p>Both rockets feature a set of grid fins on top and landing legs at the base. The overall shape of the fairing is also very familiar.<\/p><p>But they do differ in other aspects: the Amur is slimmer in diameter and uses five RD-169 engines instead of the nine Merlin engines on the Falcon 9. Amur will also be designed to burn methane for fuel, while the Falcon 9 uses both liquid oxygen and rocket-grade kerosene.<\/p><p>Just like SpaceX&rsquo;s Falcon 9 first stages, Roscosmos is planning to collect first stages on a boat out at sea &mdash; sound familiar? &mdash; to later reuse them up to ten times.<\/p><p>SpaceX isn&rsquo;t quite at ten reuses yet, but it&rsquo;s made significant progress in reusing the first stages and fairings of its Falcon 9 rockets post launch. In August, SpaceX flew the same first stage <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nasaspaceflight.com\/2020\/08\/spacex-break-record-sixth-flight\/\">for the sixth time<\/a>, and it&rsquo;s planning to fly the same first stage for the tenth time some time next year. By 2026, Musk&rsquo;s tweet seems to imply, it will have vastly surpassed the Amur&rsquo;s planned capabilities.<\/p><p>Rather than focusing on making the Falcon 9 entirely reusable &mdash; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.teslarati.com\/spacex-falcon-9-fairing-booster-reusability-zenith\/\">unlikely at this late stage<\/a> &mdash; the company is betting on its next-generation <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/tags\/starship\">Starship<\/a>, which is designed from the ground up to be fully reusable.<\/p><p>SpaceX is now gearing up to start launching the massive Mars-bound rocket, likely what Musk was referencing with &ldquo;larger rocket,&rdquo; <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/the-byte\/elon-musk-next-starship-launch-12-miles-high\">to a height of 12 miles<\/a>. The first test flight to orbit is only <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2020\/09\/01\/elon-musk-spacex-starship-to-fly-hundreds-of-missions-before-people.html\">a few years away<\/a>, according to Musk.<\/p><p>Starship is designed to eventually carry up to 100 tons of cargo to orbit, dwarfing the Amur rocket&rsquo;s planned max payload of 10.5 tons.<\/p><p>SpaceX and Roscosmos have had a <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/russia-furious-us-mocking-space-program\">rocky relationship<\/a>. Musk and Roscosmos chief Dmitry Rogozin <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/elon-musk-just-absolutely-roasted-the-russian-space-program\">haven&rsquo;t been above taking pot shots<\/a> at each other in the past.<\/p><p>Russia is hoping to start testing its rocket in 2026 &mdash; an eternity in terms of how quickly the industry has been progressing.<\/p><p>The space corporation is aiming at just $22 million per launch, for about 10.4 tons of cargo &mdash; a competitive price point. Developing the rocket is budgeted at just $900 million.<\/p><p><strong>READ MORE: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/science\/2020\/10\/russian-space-corporation-unveils-planned-amur-rocket-and-it-looks-familiar\/\">Russian space corporation unveils planned &ldquo;Amur&rdquo; rocket&mdash;and it looks familiar<\/a> [<em>Ars Technica<\/em>]<strong><br><\/strong><\/p><p><strong>More on Roscosmos:<\/strong> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/russia-first-shoot-movie-in-space\">Russia Wants to Be the First to Shoot a Movie In Space<\/a><\/em><\/p><p>The post <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/elon-musk-dissed-russia-new-rocket-design\">Elon Musk Just Dissed Russia&rsquo;s New Reusable Rocket Design<\/a> appeared first on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\">Futurism<\/a>.<\/p><p>Follow this link:<br><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/elon-musk-dissed-russia-new-rocket-design\" title=\"Elon Musk Just Dissed Russia&rsquo;s New Reusable Rocket Design\">Elon Musk Just Dissed Russia&rsquo;s New Reusable Rocket Design<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Russia\u2019s space corporation Roscosmos unveiled plans for its reusable \u201cAmur rocket\u201d this week \u2014 a design,\u00a0planned to be completed by 2016, that borrows heavily from SpaceX\u2019s Falcon 9, as Ars Technica \u2018s senior space reporter Eric Berger pointed out in a Monday tweet . SpaceX CEO Elon Musk quickly waded into the discourse, throwing some shade at the new design.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/futurism\/elon-musk-just-dissed-russias-new-reusable-rocket-design.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-445126","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-futurism"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/445126"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=445126"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/445126\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=445126"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=445126"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=445126"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}