{"id":3183,"date":"2009-12-24T16:13:01","date_gmt":"2009-12-24T16:13:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/lpa-maybe-theres-something-there-that-wasnt-there-before\/"},"modified":"2009-12-24T16:13:01","modified_gmt":"2009-12-24T16:13:01","slug":"lpa-maybe-theres-something-there-that-wasnt-there-before","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/genetic-medicine\/lpa-maybe-theres-something-there-that-wasnt-there-before.php","title":{"rendered":"Lp(a) Maybe there&#8217;s something there that wasn&#8217;t there before?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span>I unwrapped the NEJM this week and to my surprise it has a <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/content.nejm.org\/cgi\/content\/short\/361\/26\/2518\"><span>Lp(a) stuff in it.<\/span><\/a><span> One of the things we do to prevent heart disease is take family histories. We also check cholesterol levels and include something called a Cardio-CRP. One thing we haven't been including is a Lp(a). Why? The only data I see that is good on this is on women.<\/span><\/p><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>We use validated risk tools like Reynolds and Framingham Risk. It was with great interest that I read about this<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/content.nejm.org\/cgi\/content\/short\/361\/26\/2518\"><span> recent \"candidate gene\" model of assessment for Lp(a) genetic link to levels and risk. Clarke et. al.<\/span><\/a><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>They also looked at the other GWAS linked regions and what they found was most surprising in my mind.<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span><span> <\/span><i><span>LPA,<\/span><\/i><span> which encodes<\/span><sup><span> <\/span><\/sup><span>apolipoprotein(a), was the only true \"candidate\" gene on this<\/span><sup><span> <\/span><\/sup><span>custom array that was significantly associated with coronary<\/span><sup><span> <\/span><\/sup><span>disease. <\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>Now why would the other regions not be as strongly linked? Or better yet, why was Lp(a) more likely to be linked and associated?<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>Well, LPA the gene produces a protein called Lp(a) which is hypothesized to carry oxidized proinflammatory phospholipids, thus promoting inflammation in coronary arteries in turn creating niduses for clot and heart attack.<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>What do the other regions do? Dunno. I think that is the teaching point here.<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>GWAS great for illuminating possible pathology, which then in turn must be dissected and validated.<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>Candidate screens are good for risk markers IFF there is some hint of WTF the proteins are doing for the disease.<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>This is why I am just flummoxed by the fact that people are still pushing tests which have little to no clinical use or even prognostic capabilities.<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>Listen, you want to discover yourself? Go get a cholesterol, Glycohemoglobin, and complete blood count. Check your blood pressure, check your BMI. If any of these are abnormal, go seek professional help.<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>But please, please, please don't use SNPs that have no science behind them as true science or clinical markers. research them, sure. But using them like MDVIP has........Risky guys.<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>Which reminds me. <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wellsphere.com\/genetics-article\/beware-doctors-bearing-genetic-tests\/444072\"><span>I am taking care of a patient who recently left MDVIP<\/span><\/a><span>.......the <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.navigenics.com\/articles\/comments\/national_physician_group_mdvip_partners_with_navigenics\/\"><span>patient had the Navigenics SNP scan done<\/span><\/a><span>.........what do I find on family history?<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>The patient met Bethesda Criteria for HNPCC.........<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>Guess someone was too busy scanning Unproven SNPs.<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span>That being said, this current study by Clarke suggests a few things<\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span><span> <\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>1. Two <\/span><i><span>LPA<\/span><\/i><span> SNPs explain approximately<\/span><sup><span> <\/span><\/sup><span>36% of the overall variance in plasma Lp(a) lipoprotein levels. That could be like the CRP story. Yeah CRP levels but no association with risk. Big Whoop, but....<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>2. Both SNPs (one coding for the amino acid substitution<\/span><sup><span> <\/span><\/sup><span>I4399M and the other non coding) are associated with coronary<\/span><sup><span> <\/span><\/sup><span>disease. Ahem, like to see some replication here......But it could be true.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><br><\/span><\/div><div><span><span>3. After adjustment for the plasma Lp(a) lipoprotein<\/span><sup><span> <\/span><\/sup><span>level, the association between <\/span><i><span>LPA<\/span><\/i><span> genotypes and coronary disease<\/span><sup><span> <\/span><\/sup><span>was abolished. Well.....that means to me, phenotypic testing with Lp(a) levels may be more useful than I had thought.....And definitely more useful than genotype testing.<\/span><\/span><\/div><div><span><b><span><br><\/span><\/b><\/span><\/div><div><span><b><span>The Sherpa Says: <\/span><\/b><b><span>Hmmmm<\/span><\/b><b><span>, maybe we will see much more of this trend. Non-genetic molecular testing being more valuable than genetic testing for risk prediction.....Wait a sec'<\/span><\/b><\/span><\/div><div><span><\/span> <\/div><div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"http:\/\/euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-o-matic\/cache\/c5b34_6173393362223742012-8707224569197795806?l=thegenesherpa.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\" style=\"padding-left:10px; padding-right: 10px;\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I unwrapped the NEJM this week and to my surprise it has a Lp(a) stuff in it. One of the things we do to prevent heart disease is take family histories. We also check cholesterol levels and include something called &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/genetic-medicine\/lpa-maybe-theres-something-there-that-wasnt-there-before.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3183","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-genetic-medicine"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3183"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3183"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3183\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3183"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3183"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3183"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}