{"id":241874,"date":"2012-02-13T16:47:25","date_gmt":"2012-02-13T16:47:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.eugenesis.com\/planet-of-the-apes-as-in-star-trek-would-aliens-be-similar-to-us\/"},"modified":"2012-02-13T16:47:25","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T16:47:25","slug":"planet-of-the-apes-as-in-star-trek-would-aliens-be-similar-to-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/biochemistry\/planet-of-the-apes-as-in-star-trek-would-aliens-be-similar-to-us.php","title":{"rendered":"Planet of the Apes: As in &#8216;Star Trek,&#8217; would aliens be similar to us?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    On Star Trek, the aliens often look so human that crew    members fall in love with them. But in real life, scientists in    the field known as astrobiology can&#039;t be sure alien life would    even be carbon-based like us, or use DNA to carry a genetic    code.  <\/p>\n<p>    Some insight now is coming from earthly labs, where scientists    are building alternative kinds of genetic codes, and showing    how they can evolve.  <\/p>\n<p>    Whether life could be built with an alien biochemistry was    among the more interesting questions that came up during a    public event with famed biologist Richard Dawkins and physicist    Lawrence Krauss, author of the book The Physics of Star    Trek.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dawkins saw the question as a biological equivalent of one    posed by Einstein: Did God have any choice in making the    universe? Not that Einstein believed in a biblical God, as the    famously atheistic Dawkins was quick to point out.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dawkins noted that 99 percent of the living things that ever    existed are now extinct. The way carbon-based life works on    Earth is downright wasteful, he said. \"Any decent engineer    would have sent it back to the shop.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    The event, which drew more than 3,000 people, was held at    Arizona State University in Tempe. Dawkins didn&#039;t lecture but    instead took part in an onstage discussion with Krauss, who    runs a multidisciplinary program there on the origins of    humanity, life, and the cosmos.  <\/p>\n<p>    Krauss - while not going so far as to say alien chicks would be    hot - did say the laws of physics and chemistry might favor    carbon-based life resembling ours.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dawkins said he was inclined to think life could exist in more    diverse forms, as long as it included some kind of    code-carrying system equivalent to DNA, copying itself with    high fidelity. Such genetic material is critical for Darwinian    evolution, which, to Dawkins and many others, is the defining    characteristic of life.  <\/p>\n<p>    Perhaps it wasn&#039;t a complete coincidence that at the same    university, biochemist John Chaput was creating an alternative    version of DNA, called TNA, and had last month published the    first evidence that the stuff can undergo Darwinian evolution.  <\/p>\n<p>    Chaput, who works at ASU&#039;s Biodesign Institute, said Dawkins is    correct to emphasize the need for genetic material - something    that can carry a code. All known life does this with DNA and    RNA.  <\/p>\n<p>    NASA has taken a great interest in such possible alternative    code-carriers. In late 2010 the space agency claimed that    scientists had forced a bacteria to substitute arsenic for    phosphorus in its DNA. Despite the fanfare, the team never    presented adquate evidence that alternative life really    existed, said chemist Steve Benner of the Florida-based    Foundation for Applied Molecular Evolution.  <\/p>\n<p>    And when biochemist Rosemary Redfield of the University of    British Columbia tried to replicate this, she discovered that    the bacteria failed to grow when fed arsenic and no phosphorus.  <\/p>\n<p>    Benner said the original arsenic life paper admitted to a small    amount of phosphorus contamination. From the start, he said, he    thought the contamination was fooling the team into thinking    the organism was using arsenic the way we use phosphorus.  <\/p>\n<p>    Benner said this new TNA work is just as exciting and relevant    to astrobiology as the arsenic bacteria would have been if it    had been proved.  <\/p>\n<p>    This alternative genetic material is like RNA in that it&#039;s    single-stranded and it carries a chemical code with four    different units. But the backbone that holds it together has a    different structure, incorporating a sugar called threose where    RNA has a sugar called ribose.  <\/p>\n<p>    Threose is found in meteorites, said Chaput, suggesting it can    form spontaneously in the absence of life. It&#039;s also simpler    than RNA, making it a reasonable candidate for a precursor to    our current genetic material.  <\/p>\n<p>    The existence of a precursor fits with the widely held view    that life didn&#039;t start out as complex as even the simplest    microbes today. Instead, the simplest known living things    evolved from yet simpler life that no longer exists.  <\/p>\n<p>    Chaput showed that, like RNA, TNA can undergo Darwinian    evolution. In theory, then, life elsewhere could use TNA as its    genetic code, and if early life on Earth used it, TNA-based    life could evolve into DNA-based life.  <\/p>\n<p>    To demonstrate TNA evolution, he used selection to prompt the    molecules to do a fairly simple task - to stick to a specific    protein. This is what so-called receptors do in our bodies. He    continued to select those TNA molecules that best stuck to the    protein until he had a decent receptor.  <\/p>\n<p>    TNA evolution worked the same way as in DNA, with accidental    mutations leading to variation, and natural selection    amplifying those variants that are best at surviving and    reproducing themselves.  <\/p>\n<p>    That suggests the possibility of TNA-based life elsewhere, said    Benner. It&#039;s also possible, he said, that arsenic-using DNA    would be stable, say, under the frigid conditions of Saturn&#039;s    moon Titan.  <\/p>\n<p>    So now we have TNA and code-carrying molecules that use six or    12 characters rather than the usual four. With these increasing    possibilities known, Benner sides more closely with Dawkins on    the question of life forms with alternative chemistries.  <\/p>\n<p>    Our life is not the best of all possible forms, Benner said,    but a product of chance, our biochemistry hinging on which    molecules happened to bump into each other. God did have    alternatives, in other words, but chance determined which one    would evolve to create works like Star Trek.  <\/p>\n<p>    &nbsp;  <\/p>\n<p>    Contact staff writer Faye Flam at 215-854-4977, <a href=\"mailto:fflam@phillynews.com\">fflam@phillynews.com<\/a>, on her    blog at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.philly.com\/evolution\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.philly.com\/evolution<\/a>,    or @fayeflam on Twitter.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Read the rest here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.philly.com\/inquirer\/columnists\/20120213_Planet_of_the_Apes__As_in__Star_Trek___would_aliens_be_similar_to_us_.html\" title=\"Planet of the Apes: As in &#39;Star Trek,&#39; would aliens be similar to us?\">Planet of the Apes: As in &#39;Star Trek,&#39; would aliens be similar to us?<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> On Star Trek, the aliens often look so human that crew members fall in love with them. But in real life, scientists in the field known as astrobiology can&#039;t be sure alien life would even be carbon-based like us, or use DNA to carry a genetic code. Some insight now is coming from earthly labs, where scientists are building alternative kinds of genetic codes, and showing how they can evolve.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/biochemistry\/planet-of-the-apes-as-in-star-trek-would-aliens-be-similar-to-us.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":57,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[577469],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-241874","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-biochemistry"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/241874"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/57"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=241874"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/241874\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=241874"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=241874"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=241874"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}