{"id":237798,"date":"2017-08-24T05:05:45","date_gmt":"2017-08-24T09:05:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/thinking-constitutionally-about-charlottesville-huffpost.php"},"modified":"2017-08-24T05:05:45","modified_gmt":"2017-08-24T09:05:45","slug":"thinking-constitutionally-about-charlottesville-huffpost","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/government-oppression\/thinking-constitutionally-about-charlottesville-huffpost.php","title":{"rendered":"Thinking Constitutionally About Charlottesville &#8211; HuffPost"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>  Violence: Throwing a bomb through the window of  an abortion clinic certainly expresses an opinion, but is not  protected by the First Amendment. No brainer.<\/p>\n<p>  Imminent violence:A lynch mob marching  toward a jail, torches and noose in hand, chanting, to seize a  suspect, is certainly expressing an opinion, but the march can be  curbed before it reaches the suspect without violating the First  Amendment.<\/p>\n<p>  Fear of violence:Anti-war protesters  marching peacefully, if provocatively, through a city street have  a First Amendment right to do so, and cannot be curbed because of  a fear that others offended by their speech might attack them or  because of a fear that counter-demonstrators will lead to  violence between the two groups. That fear cannot  constitutionally justify a government ban of the demonstration.<\/p>\n<p>  Instead, it is the responsibility of the police to protect  the demonstrators against violence, not use the fear of violence  to ban the demonstration.<\/p>\n<p>  And if there is a likelihood of violence between demonstrators  and counterdemonstrators, the police must take reasonable steps  toward keeping them apart. As the noted civil rights lawyer  Norman Siegel, himself a veteran of many such cases, recently wrote:<\/p>\n<p>    To prevent violence, local and state police, and if necessary,    the National Guard, need to be trained to separate hostile    groups. If need be, you separate them with police officers    standing between them or creating First Amendment zones (with    wooden or metal barriers if necessary) for each group.  <\/p>\n<p>    But in Charlottesville, he concluded, video footage and    reported personal observations reveal that the lesson of    separation was not adhered to adequately.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the Declaration of Independence, the founders of this    country announced a then-new purpose of government: to protect    the rights of citizens. To secure these rights, the    Declaration said, is the reason why governments are    instituted... In Charlottesville, the government failed to    secure those rights.  <\/p>\n<p>    In Charlottesville, however, there was one more highly volatile    circumstance: one side in the dispute was ostentatiously armed,    carrying dangerous and intimidating weapons. Should that make a    difference in how and whether free speech rights are protected?  <\/p>\n<p>    In a curious step-back from its traditional defense of free    speech rights, the ACLU national office has now announced that    it may no longer defend the    free speech rights of people who carry guns to a demonstration.    This is a curious announcement, in part because there is no    pending request for such representation, and in part because    the death and injuries in Charlottesville were    causednot by a gun being fired but by an automobile    driven murderouslyinto the crowd of anti-racist    demonstrators. And this murderous act was likely enabled in    part by the failure of the police to create barriers. Will the    ACLU now not defend the free speech rights of people who drive    their cars to demonstrations? Or take steps to require the    police to be more protective in volatile situations?  <\/p>\n<p>    But more importantly, the ACLUs announcement is a serious    step-back from theBrandenburgstandard,    which for nearly a half-century has delivered precisely the    sort of free-speech protection the ACLU has sought for its    entire history. Are we now to go back to fear of violence as a    legitimate justification for allowing the government to    prohibit speech it doesnt like?  <\/p>\n<p>    Because guns are not the only source of violence, and once fear    of guns can justify speech restrictions, what other fears will?    Fear of cars? Fear of clubs? Fear of knives? Fear of fists? Has    the ACLU Board changed its longstanding policy, or was this an    impromptu reaction by the staff unable to resist the hostility    its free speech cases often provoke? (And maybe concerned about    losing donors.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Moreover, carrying guns as a show of force, is not    unprecedented. The Black Panthers did it in the 60s, without    the ACLU as I recall ever issuing a pre-emptive statement    saying it would never represent them on First Amendment grounds    if they carried guns. Carrying guns is threatening, but    carrying guns does not necessarily imply using them. Again, the    weapon of death in Charlottesville turned out to be a car, not    a gun. And people who did not drive that car, regardless of    what they carried, cannot be judged to have been responsible    for that death.  <\/p>\n<p>    What can be, and should be, constitutionally curbed is imminent    violence, not the fear of violence that leaves the government    free to speculate. Which brings us to the second Supreme    Court case worth thinking about in this context, a case    calledHeller, decided in 2008.  <\/p>\n<p>    Until theHellerdecision, the Second    Amendment had always been held not to confer    anindividualright but rather to protect    the right ofstatesto raise and maintain    state militias as a protection against federal government    oppression. Individuals had constitutional rights to own and    possess arms only in that context. That is in my view    unquestionably right historically. But in 2008,    inHeller, Justice Antonin Scalia, the oracle of    original intent, abandoned and twisted it to lead the Court to    a 5-4 decision, which held for the first time that the Second    Amendment conferred a right to bear arms upon    individuals,even if not affiliated with any    state-regulated militia.  <\/p>\n<p>    And although the case only ruled that there was a    constitutional right of individuals to keep handguns and    other firearms for private usein their own    homes,theHellerdecision has    encouraged the spread of open carry outside the home.  <\/p>\n<p>    I believeHellerhas no more validity than    theDred Scottdecision, which denied all    rights to blacks, did in 1857, or    theBradwelldecision, which denied the    rights of women to practice law, did in 1873. But we are    stuck with it for now as those alive in 1857 and 1873 were for    a time stuck with theDred    ScottandBradwelldecisions.    But that doesnt mean we have to agree    withHeller, nor does it necessarily mean that a    law reasonably regulating open carry would not be upheld by the    Supreme Court, even underHeller.  <\/p>\n<p>    So to summarize:  <\/p>\n<p>    1. I do not recall the ACLU, back in the 60s, taking the    position that the mere brandishing of guns by Black Panthers,    without more, disqualified them from being represented by the    ACLU in otherwise legitimate free speech cases. So why    now, other than different political sympathies? Whats    the content-neutral legal principle here?  <\/p>\n<p>    2. Violence can obviously be curbed. No-brainer. So can    imminent violence under the Supreme    CourtsBrandenburgdecision. But just    brandishing weapons, without more, is not violence any more    than hanging someone in effigy is a real hanging. I    believe open carry can and should be legally restrained, and    not only in the context of First Amendment activity. But    once courts allow thefearof violence,    without more, to curb expression, it is a very slippery slope.  <\/p>\n<p>    In 1969, Quaker students in Iowa were prevented from wearing    black armbands to protest the war in Vietnam because school    principals believed they would provoke or lead to violence.    That was upheld until the Supreme Court struck it down, ruling    that fear of violence, without more, was not enough. I know    armbands are not guns, but fear of violence is not violence,    either.  <\/p>\n<p>    3. As Norman Siegel wrote, it is always the responsibility of    the government, utilizing local police or the national guard,    to protect peaceful protesters when they are threatened by    thugs, whether the thugs have guns or not. That was what    the government should have done when the Freedom Riders    protesting segregated busing were assaulted by white mobs in    the South in 1961, and when civil rights activists marching    across the Selma bridge in 1965   <\/p>\n<p>    were assaulted instead of protected by law enforcement    officials, and when anti-war demonstrators were assaulted by    hard-hats in NYC in 1970, while the police stood aside.  <\/p>\n<p>    To secure these rights, the Declaration of Independence    announced, is why governments are instituted. If that    is to be taken seriously, then the police must be obligated to    protect demonstrators, not repress them, especially in volatile    situations.  <\/p>\n<p>    4. And finally: What happened in Charlottesville was not the    fault of protesters who did not engage in violence. It was the    fault of those who became violent, and the fault of the    government that did not adequately prepare for and protect    against that possibility.  <\/p>\n<p>    Let us not allow constitutional standards we fought to    establish for so long, and which protect all of our rights to    free speech, become an unintended casualty of what happened in    Charlottesville. Because the erosion of free speech rights    would be a victory for those who oppose liberty and equality.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the article here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/entry\/aclu-charlottesville-free-speech_us_599c9bcae4b0d8dde9998c36\" title=\"Thinking Constitutionally About Charlottesville - HuffPost\">Thinking Constitutionally About Charlottesville - HuffPost<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Violence: Throwing a bomb through the window of an abortion clinic certainly expresses an opinion, but is not protected by the First Amendment.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/government-oppression\/thinking-constitutionally-about-charlottesville-huffpost.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[431673],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-237798","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-government-oppression"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/237798"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=237798"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/237798\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=237798"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=237798"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=237798"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}