{"id":235934,"date":"2017-08-20T07:05:07","date_gmt":"2017-08-20T11:05:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/vile-speech-still-protected-by-first-amendment-experts-concede-tribune-review.php"},"modified":"2017-08-20T07:05:07","modified_gmt":"2017-08-20T11:05:07","slug":"vile-speech-still-protected-by-first-amendment-experts-concede-tribune-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/first-amendment-2\/vile-speech-still-protected-by-first-amendment-experts-concede-tribune-review.php","title":{"rendered":"Vile speech still protected by First Amendment, experts concede &#8211; Tribune-Review"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Updated 9 hours ago<\/p>\n<p>    Decades of Supreme Court decisions have upheld the right of    anyone to peacefully demonstrate in public spaces no matter how    abhorrent their views, said Vic Walczak, legal director of the    American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania.  <\/p>\n<p>    He has firsthand experience. When Pittsburgh refused a permit    for a Ku Klux Klan rally at the City-County Building in 1997,    Walczak went to court to defend the group's First Amendment    rights. He was among the onlookers when the Klan held its    rally.  <\/p>\n<p>    That speech was vile, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ironically, one of the speakers cursed the ACLU despite the    organization standing up for their rights, Walczak said.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the wake of the violent white nationalist rally in    Charlottesville, Va., several people and groups have criticized    the ACLU for representing the rally organizer in a dispute over    the demonstration's location.  <\/p>\n<p>    ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero said Thursday that the    organization will no longer represent hate groups who want to    demonstrate with firearms, according to the Wall Street    Journal.  <\/p>\n<p>    Getting criticized for representing unpopular groups has been    familiar territory for the ACLU since 1977 when the nonprofit    represented a neo-Nazi group that wanted to march through the    Chicago suburb of Skokie but was refused a permit by the city.  <\/p>\n<p>    The ACLU won the case and lost about 30,000 members, and the    group never held its march.  <\/p>\n<p>    We believe that rights are meaningless unless they belong to    everybody, Walczak said. Everybody has a right to peaceful    protest and assembly.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Pittsburgh administration tried to stop the 1997 rally,    arguing that it would lead to violence, he said. The same    rationale has surfaced as a reason to block alt-right rallies    in the wake of Charlottesville, where one counter-protestor was    killed and several others were injured when a white nationalist    drove his car into the crowd.  <\/p>\n<p>    Known as the heckler's veto in legal circles, the same    argument was used in the South to shut down civil rights    marchers, Walczak said.  <\/p>\n<p>    You can't shut down somebody exercising their constitutional    right because there might be violence, he said. The solution    is not to silence the speaker but to address the lawbreaker.  <\/p>\n<p>    Even if previous rallies by the same group have turned violent,    the First Amendment doesn't allow the government to curtail the    rights, said Bruce Ledewitz, a Duquesne University law    professor who teaches state and federal constitutional law.  <\/p>\n<p>    From a government standpoint, I can't assume that you're going    to break the law, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    That's true even if the speaker has been convicted of    committing a crime during a previous event, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    You can't say that because you broke the law in the past, you    can't speak, Ledewitz said. Unless you tell me you intend to    incite violence, I have to assume that you will be peaceful and    that others will be violent. My obligation at that point is to    protect your right to speak.  <\/p>\n<p>    If others show up and try to disrupt the demonstration,    technically speaking, the police have an obligation to arrest    those people, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    That doesn't mean people can't heckle a speaker, said Eugene    Volokh, a UCLA law professor who teaches First Amendment law.  <\/p>\n<p>    Throwing tomatoes or threatening to beat up the speakers if    they don't stop talking is not protected by the First    Amendment. Catcalls or shouting questions generally is    protected unless it reaches the point of drowning out the    speaker or violates a state law.  <\/p>\n<p>    It's something of a matter of degree, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    The venue partly determines how much heckling is allowed, he    added.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is pretty clear that nobody expects library silence at a    park, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Another issue raised as a result of Charlottesville is whether    the First Amendment protects people from losing their jobs if    their employers disagree with their message.  <\/p>\n<p>    The short answer is no,' unless it's a public employer, said    Sam Cordes, a lawyer who specializes in employment cases.  <\/p>\n<p>    Public employees are shielded from being fired as long as    they're speaking on a matter of public concern, he said. While    the First Amendment doesn't protect private employees, federal    laws provide protection in some instances, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    If someone is speaking out against illegal workplace    discrimination, federal anti-discrimination laws protect them    even if the company they're speaking against isn't their    employer, Cordes said. An 1866 law also protects people who are    protesting commerce-based racial discrimination, such as a    restaurant refusing to serve people because of their race.  <\/p>\n<p>    The speaker is protected even if the claim isn't accurate, as    long as the person had a good-faith, reasonable belief that    it was true, Cordes said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Brian Bowling is a Tribune-Review staff writer. 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