{"id":235280,"date":"2017-08-16T17:37:31","date_gmt":"2017-08-16T21:37:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/walt-disney-was-not-frozen-mouseplanet.php"},"modified":"2017-08-16T17:37:31","modified_gmt":"2017-08-16T21:37:31","slug":"walt-disney-was-not-frozen-mouseplanet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/cryonics\/walt-disney-was-not-frozen-mouseplanet.php","title":{"rendered":"Walt Disney Was NOT Frozen &#8211; MousePlanet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    I recently did a presentation at the Museum of Military History    in Kissimmee, Florida, about Disney and World War II. During    the question-and-answer session, I was asked if I actually    believed Walt was cremated and his ashes interred at Forest    Lawn Glendale, because they had heard from a reliable source    \"that worked at Disney\" that it was obvious he was frozen.  <\/p>\n<p>    I was even asked about this during a question-and-answer    session after a presentation I did at the Walt Disney Family    Museum a few years ago about Disney and outer space.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is a question I keep getting asked not out of idle    curiosity, but because the person often wants to prove that    they know this \"secret fact\" and if I am simply a Disney    apologist who only promotes the official Disney line.  <\/p>\n<p>    First, it is always challenging to try to prove a negative to    the satisfaction of all people.  <\/p>\n<p>    Second, just the mere mention of these falsehoods about Walt    continues to give them additional life, with people claiming    they saw this assertion in a book or heard it somewhere, like    from a Disney cast member, so it must be true.  <\/p>\n<p>    Finally, there will be people who despite common sense and all    the evidence to the contrary will condescendingly assume that    where there is smoke, there must be fire, or that someone is    trying to cover-up the real story.  <\/p>\n<p>    The one image that sticks in my mind when someone asks me if    Walt were frozen is the memory of his oldest daughter Diane    Disney Miller. I remember her telling me with a mixture of    sadness and anger in her face and voice about how upsetting it    was to the Disney family over the years for this question to    even be asked in the first place.  <\/p>\n<p>    She told me that one of the reasons she was so adamant about    creating the Walt Disney Family Museum in San Francisco was    \"Other little kids would say to my kids, 'Your grandfather is    frozen, isn't he?' And I just couldn't let that stand. What if    someone said that about their parent? How would they feel?\"  <\/p>\n<p>    When I lived in California, some California Institute of the    Arts students as an art project raised some money by producing    a limited amount of \"Waltsickles\" that featured a full-figured    model of Walt Disney in a suit inside of a popsickle. That    never happened again although gags about \"Disney on Ice\" with    Walt frozen in a block of ice and skaters performing on top of    him abound.  <\/p>\n<p>            An editorial cartoon jokingly referred to Disney on Ice as    being Walt frozen in ice.  <\/p>\n<p>    Walt Disney was not cryogenically frozen, but was cremated on    December 17, 1966. Rumors still persist that Walt was put into    cryogenic suspension and buried somewhere underneath    Disneyland, in particular under the Pirates of the Caribbean    attraction, since it was still under construction when he died.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, I have had people tell me, he was put under the    dedication plaque on Main Street or directly in front of    Sleeping Beauty Castle. Interestingly, I haven't yet had anyone    tell me Walt's supposed frozen body is somewhere in the Haunted    Mansion. I guess that is because the Mansion is supposed to be    for dead people and in theory, if he were frozen, Walt would    still be alive.  <\/p>\n<p>    Articles and books about the preservation of animal tissue    through freezing appeared in medical and scientific journals    and occasionally the general press starting in the late 1950s.    Perhaps the most prominent book during Walt's lifetime, The    Prospect of Immortality by Robert C.W. Ettinger, was    published in 1964.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, this book still discussed cryonics as merely    theoretical although eventually possible. Just as it was    possible Walt \"might\" have heard about this topic, but there is    no documentation that he ever did. Neither his family nor his    closest associates ever heard him talk about the topicand Walt    talked about everything he was interested in at the moment.  <\/p>\n<p>    Certainly, there are several untrustworthy and unreliable    sources that have proposed that he did but there is no    evidence, including interviews with those who actually knew and    worked with Walt.  <\/p>\n<p>    Again, this is one of those Walt Disney Urban Legends that    \"everyone knows\" but nobody seems to know where the information    originated.  <\/p>\n<p>    Waking Walt was a novel published in 2002 by former    Disneyland and Walt Disney World Vice-President Larry Pontius    about Walt Disney supposedly being defrosted by a very small    group of former confidants to save the Disney Company from the    machinations of Michael Eisner.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is no surprise that Walt's disgust about what has happened    to his dream, especially Epcot, is clearly apparent in the    novel. Pontinus never knew Walt, but worked as a Disney    marketing executive from 1976-1982.  <\/p>\n<p>    Diane Disney Miller asserted in 1972: \"There is absolutely no    truth to the rumor that my father, Walt Disney, wished to be    frozen. I doubt that my father had ever heard of cryonics.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Walt's official death certificate clearly shows that his body    was cremated at Forest Lawn Glendale on December 17, 1966. The    name, license number and signature of the embalmer, Dean Fluss,    are those of a real embalmer who worked at the mortuary at the    time. Court papers show that the Disney family paid $40,000 to    Forest Lawn for the interment location of his ashes.  <\/p>\n<p>    Certainly, Walt did not like attending funerals and even    avoided the ones for his own father and brother.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"He never goes to a funeral if he can help it,\" wrote Diane in    1956. \"If he had to go to one it plunges him into a reverie    which lasts for hours after he's home. At such times he says,    'When I'm dead I don't want a funeral. I want people to    remember me alive'.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Walt did not want people to see him in the hospital, and so    only the immediate family was allowed into his room. Very few    people, even those close to him, knew how really sick Walt    actually was. The story told to the public was that he was    undergoing surgery for an old neck injury from playing polo    that most people knew had troubled him for decades and then    re-entered the hospital days later for a routine post operative    checkup.  <\/p>\n<p>    Walt's death was not immediately announced to the press until    several hours after it occurred at 9:30 a.m. on Thursday,    December 15, 1966. Walt lay in his hospital bed for a few hours    while his family arrived and said their farewells. If Walt was    to be put into cryonic suspension, it would have had to be done    immediately to preserve him or even just moments before his    death. That did not happen.  <\/p>\n<p>    He lay there as his daughter Diane tried to get her mother to    hurry up to get to the hospital but Lillian kept delaying the    inevitable. His older brother Roy sat at the edge of the bed    rubbing one of Walt's feet that was sticking out from the under    the sheets. Walt had always complained his feet were cold in    the hospital.  <\/p>\n<p>    The cause of Disney's death was initially announced as being    \"acute circulatory collapse\" and, on the death certificate,    \"cardiac arrest,\" which meant simply that his heart had stopped    beating. It was a standard medical phrase giving no indication    of what caused the heart to stop beating, which, in this case,    was cancer. The cause was considered of secondary importance    and to the general public the actual cause was unimportant.    Walt Disney was gone.  <\/p>\n<p>    Walt's funeral was quietly held at the Little Church of the    Flowers in Forest Lawn Cemetery, Glendale at 5 p.m. on Friday,    December 16, the day after his death. No funeral announcement    was made until after it had taken place. Only immediate family    members attended, no friends, people who worked at the studio    or business associates.  <\/p>\n<p>            The Disney characters and cast members mourn Walt Disney in    this cartoon.  <\/p>\n<p>    His widow Lillian; daughters Diane and Sharon, with their    husbands (Ron Miller and Robert Brown); his brother Roy and his    wife Edna; and their son, Walt's nephew Roy E. Disney, with his    wife Patty, were the only ones there. His sister Ruth was told    not to fly down from Portland, Oregon, where she lived for fear    the press would follow her to the service.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Los Angeles Times reported, \"Secret rites were conducted at    the Little Church of the Flowers at Forest Lawn. The services    were a closely-guarded secret. Family services were announced    only after they had been concluded. Studio and cemetery    officials refused to reveal details.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Forest Lawn officials refused to disclose any details of the    funeral or disposition of the body, stating only that \"Mr.    Disney's wishes were very specific and had been spelled out in    great detail.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    The situation that people were not fully aware how ill Walt    was, never saw him in the hospital and how badly he had    deteriorated, nor attended his funeral to see him lying in    state sparked the speculation that like other popular    celebrities who died somewhat suddenly, including Elvis    Presley, Walt was not really dead.  <\/p>\n<p>    While the Disney family were a private family and felt this was    a private matter, others saw it as a mystery.  <\/p>\n<p>    The origin of the rumor of Walt being frozen has often been    credited to Disney Studios animators who \"had a bizarre sense    of humor\" and perhaps the earliest known printed version    appeared in the French magazine Ici Paris in 1969.  <\/p>\n<p>    In 1985, I asked animator Ward Kimball if he was the source for    the rumor since he was well known for his pranks. \"When Disney    fans ask me if it's true that Walt's body is kept frozen for    future resurrection, I answer that question by pointing out    that Walt was always intensely interested in things scientific    and he, more than any person I knew, just might have been    curious enough to agree to such an experiment.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    A decade earlier, Kimball had told another interviewer, \"The    smoking may have set the stage for his death. It probably    weakened his physical condition. But I'm convinced it was the    emotional stress he was under that killed him. It's such a dull    world. So when I am asked if Walt's body was frozen and if he    believed he could come back someday, just to stir things up I    tell everybody he is frozen. Actually, he was cremated.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    in 1972, Bob Nelson, who was then the president of the Cryonics    Society of California, gave an interview to the Los Angeles    Times. He specifically stated that Walt was not    cryogenically frozen and reaffirmed that he had been cremated.    However, he continued that he felt that Walt wanted to be    frozen and based it on the fact that he had been contacted by    someone at the studios prior to Disney death that asked    elaborate questions about the process, the facilities, the    staff, and their history.  <\/p>\n<p>    That someone may have been writer Charles Show, who had worked    on the Tomorrowland episodes for the Disney television series    and has admitted doing research on the topic before Walt's    death.  <\/p>\n<p>    Nelson pointed out that the first cryonic suspension took place    just a month after Disney's death. Dr. James Bedford, a    73-year-old psychologist from Glendale, was suspended by Nelson    and his team on January 12, 1967. Bedford has yet to be revived    from his comfortable rest in Arizona.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"If Disney had been the first it would have made headlines    around the world and been a real shot in the arm for cryonics,\"    said Nelson who had hoped to put Walt in a nitrogen filled    capsule chilled to minus 371 degrees Fahrenheit. Interestingly,    Nelson's organization had its incorporation papers approved by    the state of California on December 15, 1966, the same day Walt    passed away.  <\/p>\n<p>    Nelson was later asked if some other facility than his own    might have been involved.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"There was no other facility at that time. The only other group    was the Cryonics Society of New York and they had nothing  no    mortician, no doctor, no nothing,\" Nelson said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Author Ray Bradbury said later, \"There was a rumor that (Walt)    had been frozen in a cryogenic mortuary to be revived in later    years. Nonsense! He's alive now! People at the studio speak of    him as if he were present! That's immortality for you. Who    needs cryonics?\"  <\/p>\n<p>    In the 1970s, the National Enquirer revealed the grave    site of Walt Disney.  <\/p>\n<p>    For nearly a year after the cremation, Walt Disney's ashes    remained un-interred. When Sharon's husband, Bob Brown, died    less than a year later, in September 1967, Sharon made the    arrangements for her father and her husband to be interred    together so that neither would be alone. She and her older    sister, Diane, chose a remote plot outside the Freedom    Mausoleum.  <\/p>\n<p>    A modest bronze rectangular tablet on a wall lists the name of    Walter Elias Disney; his wife, Lillian; his son-in-law, Robert    Brown; and a mention that daughter Sharon's ashes were    \"scattered in paradise.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    To locate the site, drive through the entrance to a road called    Cathedral Drive. Stay on the road to the eastern edge of the    park where Cathedral Drive intersects with Freedom Way. At that    intersection, turn right onto Freedom Way. On your left will be    trees, fountains, and statues. This area is called Freedom    Court.  <\/p>\n<p>    At the far end of Freedom Court is a large mausoleum. Pull over    and park on the right-hand side of the street. There should be    a \"33\" painted on the curb opposite your car, indicating 33    Freedom Way. Standing at the base of the steps leading to the    main entrance of the Freedom Mausoleum, turn to your left and    walk to the far edge of the steps.  <\/p>\n<p>    There is a small, private, low-gated courtyard garden near the    brick wall. Inside this area guarded by a hedge of orange    olivias, red azaleas, and a holly tree there is a small statue    of Hans Christian Anderson's Little Mermaid sitting on a rock.  <\/p>\n<p>    In recent years, another huge falsehood has circulated in    regards to Walt Disney's death and I have no clue where this    could have originated.  <\/p>\n<p>    According to the myth, in Walt Disney's Last Will and Testament    dated March 1966, he stipulated that the first man to get    pregnant or give birth would receive millions of dollars, all    of Walt Disney World or even the entire Disney Company. The    vagueness of the reward should be the first clue that this is    bogus.  <\/p>\n<p>    Walt Disney's will is a public document and easily accessible    so it is easy to see that no such statement exists or anything    else like it relating to bizarre statement.  <\/p>\n<p>    In addition, Walt was a highly conservative Midwest Christian    and such a decree would certainly be out of character even for    a man interested in innovation and the latest technology. In    any case, this would not be something the traditional Walt    would likely want to encourage at all nor did he ever discuss    anything like it.  <\/p>\n<p>    In any case, The Walt Disney Company was a publicly held    corporation so Walt wouldn't have been able to give away the    company or Walt Disney World. He didn't own them. In his will,    Disney clearly left 45 percent of his estate to his wife and    daughters and another 45 percent to be distributed primarily to    California Institute of the Arts and the remaining 10 percent    to be divided among his sister, nieces, and nephews.  <\/p>\n<p>    So there were no extra millions of dollars to be distributed to    any other bequest.  <\/p>\n<p>    While there have been stories of eccentric wealthy people    making unusual bequests in their wills, Walt never did.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, even Walt knew that a good story is hard to extinguish    and will often take on a life of its own. You might think that    the information in this column is enough to put the story to    rest but I can tell you that I shared this with an avid and    somewhat knowledgeable Disney fan before publication and her    immediate reaction was, \"documents can be forged!\"  <\/p>\n<p>    I just sighed.  <\/p>\n<p>    So the falsehoods will probably continue while the facts are    forgotten. I just keep remembering how sad it made Diane Disney    Miller and I wish there were more I could do.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>The rest is here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mouseplanet.com\/11862\/Walt_Disney_Was_NOT_Frozen\" title=\"Walt Disney Was NOT Frozen - MousePlanet\">Walt Disney Was NOT Frozen - MousePlanet<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> I recently did a presentation at the Museum of Military History in Kissimmee, Florida, about Disney and World War II. 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