{"id":235251,"date":"2017-08-16T17:21:35","date_gmt":"2017-08-16T21:21:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/empiricism-as-foundational-patheos-blog.php"},"modified":"2017-08-16T17:21:35","modified_gmt":"2017-08-16T21:21:35","slug":"empiricism-as-foundational-patheos-blog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/rationalism\/empiricism-as-foundational-patheos-blog.php","title":{"rendered":"Empiricism as Foundational &#8211; Patheos (blog)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    I have talked before about the empiricism vs    rationalism debate that has taken place historically and    presently in philosophical circles. Today, I am going to    explore this a little further.  <\/p>\n<p>    As I said before  <\/p>\n<p>    The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophystatesthat    rationalists adopt at least one of three statements:  <\/p>\n<p>      The Intuition\/Deduction Thesis: Some propositions in      a particular subject area, S, are knowable by us by intuition      alone; still others are knowable by being deduced from      intuited propositions.    <\/p>\n<p>      The Innate Knowledge Thesis: We have knowledge of      some truths in a particular subject area, S, as part of our      rational nature.    <\/p>\n<p>      The Innate Concept Thesis: We have some of the      concepts we employ in a particular subject area, S, as part      of our rational nature.    <\/p>\n<p>    We eitherknowthings to be true    intuitively, or as part of being rational agents, or the    empirical may trigger concepts already embedded within our    nature. Of course, one weakness here is in establishing what    intuitionactually is.  <\/p>\n<p>    Whilst other ideas and theses are closely connected to    rationalism, or are often associated with it, I will keep it    simple by only involving the above three.  <\/p>\n<p>    One question that is often touted about such rationalism is the    epistemic warrant: if someone uses intuition about a certain    proposition, then it can be seen as lacking reason, and is thus    potentially less justifiable, lacking in being warranted. How    does an intuitive claim become a warranted claim?  <\/p>\n<p>    For the empiricist, the following must be true in some way:  <\/p>\n<p>      The Empiricism Thesis: We have no source of      knowledge in S or for the concepts we use in S other than      sense experience.    <\/p>\n<p>    The source of knowledge for us is claimed to bea    posteriori(from the latter)in its entirety, at    source. Things may become intuitive, and even lacking reason,    but they are as a result of us using our senses over time to    formulate our propositional knowledge, and our systems that we    use to navigate through the world. As the SEP continues:  <\/p>\n<p>      Empiricism about a particular subject rejects the      corresponding version of the Intuition\/Deduction thesis and      Innate Knowledge thesis. Insofar as we have knowledge in the      subject, our knowledge isa posteriori,      dependent upon sense experience. Empiricists also deny the      implication of the corresponding Innate Concept thesis that      we have innate ideas in the subject area. Sense experience is      our only source of ideas. They reject the corresponding      version of the Superiority of Reason thesis. Since reason      alone does not give us any knowledge, it certainly does not      give us superior knowledge. Empiricists generally reject the      Indispensability of Reason thesis, though they need not. The      Empiricism thesis does not entail that we have empirical      knowledge. It entails that knowledge can only be      gained,if at all, by experience. Empiricists      may assert, as some do for some subjects, that the      rationalists are correct to claim that experience cannot give      us knowledge. The conclusion they draw from this rationalist      lesson is that we do not know at all.    <\/p>\n<p>    The thing is, we can sit here and wax lyrical about how    wonderful rationality is, and how great it is to use logic, but    unless these things have a pragmatic use then they are kind of    meaningless. The question that we really need to ask is, How    doI measure how good or useful logic is? or How    doI evaluate a rational argument?  <\/p>\n<p>    The answer, it appears, alwaysdefers to some kind of    empirical appeal.  <\/p>\n<p>    Take this as an example.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its me and you, reader, and were living together. I write    something really nasty about you on a post-it note. We might    say that this has some moral value. However, now imagine that I    put that post-it in my pocket where it disappears. You never    find out about it, and I instantly forget I wrote it, and no    one else in the world is any the wiser. What this means is that    that terribly nasty note has no impact, no empirical legacy, on    the world. There are no consequences whatsoever to writing    that. As a moral action, the writing of that note now becomes    a-moral it has no moral value. It seems to me that    something can only have moral value if it has some kind of    effect on reality. The only way we can know the effect    something has on reality is to experience it in some way, to    empirically sense it.  <\/p>\n<p>    The same can be said of logic. Why is it good that a    proposition adheres to logical rules such that it is rational?    Well, the goodness of logic s surely measured in how we can    use it. If it has no application to reality then it is rather    meaningless. Rationality is only reveredbecause of what    it can achieve. If rationality had no effect on reality, then    it could not be seen as good (in a sense that good means to    work well or have use).  <\/p>\n<p>    If things only have exist in abstraction without any    ramification on the world in any way, then they become impotent    or meaningless. At the very minimum, beliefs and propositions    and rational arguments have n effect on the psychology of the    thinker.  <\/p>\n<p>    It appears to me that empiricism lies at the heart of the    consideration and evaluation of all things.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tippling\/2017\/08\/16\/empiricism-as-foundational\/\" title=\"Empiricism as Foundational - Patheos (blog)\">Empiricism as Foundational - Patheos (blog)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> I have talked before about the empiricism vs rationalism debate that has taken place historically and presently in philosophical circles.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/rationalism\/empiricism-as-foundational-patheos-blog.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[431564],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-235251","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-rationalism"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/235251"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=235251"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/235251\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=235251"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=235251"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=235251"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}