{"id":230137,"date":"2017-07-25T07:02:23","date_gmt":"2017-07-25T11:02:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/is-spirituality-irrational-patheos-blog.php"},"modified":"2017-07-25T07:02:23","modified_gmt":"2017-07-25T11:02:23","slug":"is-spirituality-irrational-patheos-blog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/spirituality\/is-spirituality-irrational-patheos-blog.php","title":{"rendered":"Is Spirituality Irrational? &#8211; Patheos (blog)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Guest post by Ron Garret  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    ____________________________________________  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Spirituality and rationality seem completely opposed. But are    they really?  <\/p>\n<p>    To get at this question, lets start with a little thought    experiment. Consider the following two questions:  <\/p>\n<p>    1. If you were given a choice between reading a physical book    (or an e-book) or listening to an audiobook, which would you    prefer?  <\/p>\n<p>    2. If you were given a choice between listening to music, or    looking at the grooves of a phonograph record through a    microscope, which would you prefer?  <\/p>\n<p>    But I am more interested in the answer to a third question:  <\/p>\n<p>    3. For which of the first two questions do you have a stronger    preference between the two options?  <\/p>\n<p>    Most people will have a stronger preference in the second case    than the first. But why? Both situations are in some sense the    same: there is information being fed into your brain, in one    case through your ears and in the other through your eyes. So    why should peoples preference for ears be so much stronger in    the case of music than books?  <\/p>\n<p>    There is something in the essence of music that is lost in the    translation between an audio and a visual rendering. The same    loss happens for words too, but to a much lesser extent. Subtle    shades of emphasis and tone of voice can convey essential    information in spoken language. This is one of the reasons that    email is so notorious for amplifying misunderstandings. But the    loss in much greater in the case of music.  <\/p>\n<p>    The same is true for other senses. Color is one example. A    blind person can abstractly understand what light is, and that    color is a byproduct of the wavelength of light, and that light    is a form of electromagnetic radiation yet there is no way for    a blind person to experience subjectively the difference    between red and blue and green. But just because some people    cant see colors doesnt mean that colors arent real.  <\/p>\n<p>    The same is true for spiritual experiences.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now, before I expand that thought, I want to give you my bona    fides. I am a committed rationalist, and an atheist (though I    dont like to self-identify as an atheist because Id rather    focus on what I *do* believe in rather than what I dont). So I    am not trying to convince you that God exists. What I want to    say is rather that certain kinds of spiritual experiences    *might* be more than mere fantasies made up out of whole cloth.    If we ignore this possibility we risk shutting ourselves off    from a vital part of the human experience.  <\/p>\n<p>    I grew up in the deep south (Kentucky and Tennessee) in a    secular Jewish family. When I was 12 my parents sent me to a    Christian summer camp (there were no other kinds in Kentucky    back in those days). After a week of being relentlessly    proselytized (read: teased and ostracized), I decided I was    tired of being the camp punching bag and so I relented and gave    my heart to Jesus. I prayed, confessed my sins, and just like    that I was a member of the club.  <\/p>\n<p>    I experienced a euphoria that I cannot render into words, in    exactly the same way that one cannot render into words the    subjective experience of listening to music or seeing colors or    eating chocolate or having sex. If you have not experienced    these things for yourself, no amount of description can fill    the gap. Of course, you can come to an *intellectual*    understanding that feeling the presence of the holy spirit    has nothing to do with any holy spirit. You can intellectually    grasp that it is an internal mental process resulting from    (probably) some kind ofneurotransmitter releasedin response to    social and internal mental stimulus. But that wont allow you    to understand *what it is like* any more than understanding    physics will let you understand what colors look like or what    music sounds like.  <\/p>\n<p>    Happily, there areways to stimulatethe subjective experience    that Im describing other than accepting Jesus as your Lord and    Savior. Meditation, for example, can produce similar results.    It can be avery powerful experience. It can even become    addictive, almostlike a drug.  <\/p>\n<p>    I am not necessarily advocating that you go try to get yourself    a hit of religious euphoria (though I wouldnt discourage you    either  the experience can give you some interesting and    useful perspective on life). Instead, I simply want to convince    you to entertain the possibility that people might profess to    believe in God for reasons other than indoctrination or    stupidity. Religious texts and rituals might be attempts to    share real subjective experiences that, in the absence of a    detailed modern understanding of neuroscience, can appear to    originate from mysterious, subtle external sources.  <\/p>\n<p>    The reason I want to convince you to entertain this notion is    that an awful lot of energy gets wasted by arguing against    religious beliefs on logical grounds, pointing out    contradictions in the Bible and whatnot. Such arguments tend to    be ineffective, which can be very frustrating for those who    advance them. The antidote for this frustration is to realize    that spirituality is not about logic. Its about subjective    experiences to which not everyone is privy. Logic is about    looking at the grooves. Spirituality is about hearing the    music.  <\/p>\n<p>    The good news is that adopting science and reason doesnt mean    you have to give up on spirituality any more than you have to    give up on music. There are myriad paths to spiritual    experience, to a sense of awe and wonder at the grand tapestry    of creation, to the essential existential mysteries of life and    consciousness, to what religious people call God. Walking in    the woods. Seeing the moons of Jupiter through a telescope.    Gathering with friends to listen to music, or to sing, or    simply to share the experience of being alive. Meditation. Any    of these can be spiritual experiences if you allow them to be.    In this sense, God is everywhere.  <\/p>\n<p>    Things to ponder:    Why are spiritual experiences in general so strongly associated    with irrationality? Is it possible that spiritual experiences    *causes* people to become irrational?  <\/p>\n<p>    Do you think comparing spiritual experience to music is an apt    analogy? What about comparing it to a psychedelic drug?  <\/p>\n<p>    What are the benefits and drawbacks of seeking spiritual    experiences? On balance, is it a worthwhile thing to do?  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>      ___________________________________________    <\/p>\n<p>      Connect with Dr. Gleb      TsipurskyonTwitter, onFacebook, and onLinkedIn, and follow hisRSS      feedandnewsletter.    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/intentionalinsights\/2017\/07\/is-spirituality-irrational\/\" title=\"Is Spirituality Irrational? - Patheos (blog)\">Is Spirituality Irrational? - Patheos (blog)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Guest post by Ron Garret ____________________________________________ Spirituality and rationality seem completely opposed. 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