{"id":230047,"date":"2017-07-25T06:43:24","date_gmt":"2017-07-25T10:43:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/alibaba-and-tencent-are-carving-up-southeast-asias-startup-techcrunch.php"},"modified":"2017-07-25T06:43:24","modified_gmt":"2017-07-25T10:43:24","slug":"alibaba-and-tencent-are-carving-up-southeast-asias-startup-techcrunch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/eco-system\/alibaba-and-tencent-are-carving-up-southeast-asias-startup-techcrunch.php","title":{"rendered":"Alibaba and Tencent are carving up Southeast Asia&#8217;s startup &#8230; &#8211; TechCrunch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Two global tech forces are putting their mark  and money     into Southeast Asias nascent startup ecosystem, butthey    may not be the Western names that you expect.  <\/p>\n<p>    Rather than Google, Facebook or Microsoft, increasingly Chinese    duo Alibaba and Tencent are the driving forces behind the    importing of large sums of capital and vast business experience    into Southeast Asias most promising startups.  <\/p>\n<p>    Both companies, sworn enemies in China, appear to have realized    the potential in the region and are now acting on it. That    means battles, drama and probably more  welcome to Southeast    Asias tech Game Of Thrones.  <\/p>\n<p>    Southeast Asia has long been an area of interest for business    for its neighbors. Tech aside, Southeast Asia is home to more    than 600 million consumers, with six primary markets     Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia and the    Philippines  standing out for growing economies and rising    middle-classes of consumers.  <\/p>\n<p>    In todays digital era, smartphones have been a key catalyst.    Like India, Southeast Asias internet users are primarily on    mobile, with most having skipped the PC altogether and jumping    straight to phones and tablets.  <\/p>\n<p>    A much-cited report co-authored by Google last year showed that    Southeast Asia has 260 million internet users with 3.8 million    more going online per month. Thats tipped to grow the internet    population to 480 million people by 2020. Sure, that isnt    China level yet  the country has 731 million internet users, half    of which are mobile  but it does mean that, alongside    India, Southeast Asia is a region of serious tech development    potential.  <\/p>\n<p>    That same Google report forecasted that the regions internet    economy  i.e. all business generated from the web  will be    worth $200 billion by 2025. Thats up from 6.5-fold from 2015,    when it was estimated to be worth $31 billion. E-commerce alone    is tipped to rise from $5.5 billion in 2015 to $88 billion in    2025, of which half will originate from Indonesia, the worlds    fourth largest country, according to the report.  <\/p>\n<p>      Key slides from the Google-Temasek report on Southeast Asias      digital economy    <\/p>\n<p>    Over the past year, it seems that Chinese companies have gone    from scouting the region to actively owning chunks of it.  <\/p>\n<p>    The first step was Alibabas $1 billion investment    in Lazada, an Amazon-like e-commerce company serving six    countries in Southeast Asia, in April 2016. The deal    represented the first major investment into the region from a    Chinese company.  <\/p>\n<p>    Alibaba has since firmed up its shareholding, paying another $1 billion in June to take    its ownership to 83 percent, while, under its tutelage, Lazada    expanded its business into groceries with the acquisition of    Singapore-based Redmart while it launched an Amazon Prime-style offering in partnership    with Netflix and Uber. Amazon is expected to enter Southeast Asia this    year, with sources telling TechCrunch an original goal of launching Q1 proved to    be too ambitious.  <\/p>\n<p>    Lazada CEO Max Bittner told TechCrunch last month that his    company plans to extend both services, which are currently only    available in Singapore, to different markets. Arguably, this is    where Alibabas capital and experience is really coming into    play for Lazada.  <\/p>\n<p>    Were found theright balance between us having the    freedom [for our business] and falling back on Alibaba as our    big brother willing to help us when we need it, Bittner said    of the relationship in an interview.  <\/p>\n<p>    Alibaba hasnt stood still there, however. It has embarked on a    series of fintech investments in Southeast Asia through Ant    Financial, its financial services affiliate.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ant Financials global investment spree has included a $1.2 billion deal for U.S.-headquartered    Moneygram and Koreas Kakao Pay, but in Southeast Asia it    has done deals with Thailand-based Ascend Money, Mynt in the    Philippines, Emtek in Indonesia, and Singapores M-Daq.  <\/p>\n<p>    Then, earlier this month, Alibaba itself opened the coffers    again to invest in a $50 million round for online insurance site    Compare Asia Group.  <\/p>\n<p>    Tencent, meanwhile, has a long-standing investment in Thailand-based    media company Sanook, while it invested $19 million in a joint media venture    with Ookbee, another Thai company. On the product-side,    it has aggressively pushed its free-to-play    music service Joox in Southeast Asia as a rival to Spotify,    while it recently invested in U.S. karaoke app    Smule which has strong traction in the region and plans to    expand in Asia.  <\/p>\n<p>    Through their investments and acquisitions, its very clear    that Alibaba and Tencent are interested in Southeast Asia. They    share our vision, that this region is ripe for opportunities in    the e-commerce, payments, and marketplaces space, Vinnie Lauria, founding partner at    Singapore-based VC firm Golden Gate    Ventures, told TechCrunch in a statement.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>      Alibaba chairman Jack Ma has led his company to expand into      India and Southeast Asia for growth opportunities    <\/p>\n<p>    That collection of deals is just those that have been reported    or made official. There are plenty more either lurking in a    press pipeline waiting to be announced, or subject to    negotiations.  <\/p>\n<p>    Through discussions with founders, TechCrunch understands that    Tencent and Alibaba have held discussions with at least a dozen    startups that operate in Southeast Asias e-commerce or fintech    space. In almost every instance, it seemed that both Chinese    giants had been in touch with a near-identical set of companies    to make investment offers, or to register interest for when the    startup in question is ready to raise new funds.  <\/p>\n<p>    To borrow a phrase from a prominent tech investor, who spoke to    TechCrunch on the condition of anonymity to avoid offending    either company, Tencent and Alibaba are carving up Southeast    Asias startup ecosystem.  <\/p>\n<p>    The dogfight has spilled into the ride-sharing space, for one.  <\/p>\n<p>    Alibaba is expected to be part of a group of    investors behind a new funding round for Uber rival Grab    which could reach $2 billion and is expected to close soon,    a source told TechCrunch. But Alibaba is    also rumored to have held talks with Go-Jek, a rival to Grab    and Uber which is widely acknowledged as the market leader in    Indonesia. However, in a twist, Go-Jek ended up agreeing to    take investment from Tencent as part of an as-yet-unannounced    $1.2 billion round that would value the company at $3 billion,    as we reported in May.  <\/p>\n<p>    In e-commerce, Tencents strategic ally JD.com  which includes    Tencent among its investor base  has been strongly linked with    an investment in Indonesia-based company Tokopedia, which    previously raised money from SoftBank. However, a source told    TechCrunch that Alibaba is also talking to the company with a    view to making an investment. Alibabas long-standing    relationship with SoftBank, which included an early investment    in Alibaba, could prove to be a clincher in this case.  <\/p>\n<p>    The decision of Alibaba or Tencent is tough one because    essentially companies are being asked to join one of two rival    sides.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its akin toa Game Of Thrones-style    allegiance.There are few examples in China of companies    that share both Tencent and Alibaba as investors  both firms    own stock in Didi by virtue of a merger between their    respective investees, Didi Kuaidi and Didi Dache so the    decision of which to go with has real long-term implications on    future relationships and investors.  <\/p>\n<p>    They are clearly drawing lines in the sand with their    checkbooks, and we can see a war of these two titans playing    out across Singapore, Indonesia, and Thailand, Lauria, whose    firm invested in Redmart, said.  <\/p>\n<p>    While Alibaba and Tencent are among the first (and heaviest)    movers, many are predicting that others from China and beyond    will follow the same steps if they havent already.  <\/p>\n<p>    Singapore, serving as the hub for the Southeast Asia    ecosystem, continues to attract major investment interest from    Chinese companies and Chinese VCs,Michael    Smith, an operating partner with early-stage VC firm    SeedPlus, told TechCrunch.  <\/p>\n<p>    Obviously Tencent and Alibaba are some of the biggest    companies looking for growth in areas like e-commerce, fintech    and logistics but JD.com is also investing and looking for    further opportunities in the region, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Smith also pointed out that bike-sharing companies Mobike and    Ofo both selected Singapore for their first overseas expansion,    while, outside of the startup space, China-backed consortium Nesta is bidding to    buySingapores Global Logistic Properties for around $11    billion.  <\/p>\n<p>    We continue to believe that Singapore and the companies    created here will rise in their attraction to not only Chinese    but European and American companies looking for Asian    expansion, Smith said.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>      Uber rival Grab is close to taking investment from Alibaba,      according to sources.    <\/p>\n<p>    U.S. tech firms have increased their presence in Southeast    Asia, with Google and Facebook in particular operating local    offices in multiple countries, but their presence has centered    around product localization, sales and marketing rather than    investments.  <\/p>\n<p>    Google acquired a chat messenger app to staff its    Next Billion teamtasked with tweaking existing    services and creating new ones for emerging markets like India,    Southeast Asia and Africa. (It recently did the same in India, too.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Facebook and Twitter are among those that have long conducted    deep market research projects to learn more about how users in    frontier markets use the internet. Facebook even trialled a social payment feature    in Thailandto explore the potential of social media    commerce.  <\/p>\n<p>    The results of these exercises havehelped shape products    like Facebook Lite, the social networks fastest-growing app,    and Twitters new mobile web app, but for now none of the    Western tech giants have dived into the ecosystem with quite    the impact of their peers from China  and were just getting    started.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to read the rest: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2017\/07\/22\/alibaba-tencent-southeast-asia-game-of-thrones\/\" title=\"Alibaba and Tencent are carving up Southeast Asia's startup ... - TechCrunch\">Alibaba and Tencent are carving up Southeast Asia's startup ... - TechCrunch<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Two global tech forces are putting their mark and money into Southeast Asias nascent startup ecosystem, butthey may not be the Western names that you expect. Rather than Google, Facebook or Microsoft, increasingly Chinese duo Alibaba and Tencent are the driving forces behind the importing of large sums of capital and vast business experience into Southeast Asias most promising startups. Both companies, sworn enemies in China, appear to have realized the potential in the region and are now acting on it.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/eco-system\/alibaba-and-tencent-are-carving-up-southeast-asias-startup-techcrunch.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[33],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-230047","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-eco-system"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/230047"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=230047"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/230047\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=230047"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=230047"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=230047"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}