{"id":229872,"date":"2017-07-24T06:50:45","date_gmt":"2017-07-24T10:50:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/asian-interest-breathes-new-life-into-yale-professors-course-about-death-new-haven-register.php"},"modified":"2017-07-24T06:50:45","modified_gmt":"2017-07-24T10:50:45","slug":"asian-interest-breathes-new-life-into-yale-professors-course-about-death-new-haven-register","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/mind-upload\/asian-interest-breathes-new-life-into-yale-professors-course-about-death-new-haven-register.php","title":{"rendered":"Asian interest breathes new life into Yale professor&#8217;s course about death &#8211; New Haven Register"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    NEW HAVEN >> When Yale    University professor Shelly Kagans course on the    philosophy of death was posted as one of Open Yales free online offerings, he    couldnt anticipate what would happen next.  <\/p>\n<p>    The course, followed by the 2012 publication of the book    Death by    Yale University Press, brought Kagan celebrity status in    South Korea, and he has become popular in China as well.  <\/p>\n<p>    Kagan was brought to Seoul to appear on South Korean radio and    television  10,000 people requested tickets for a 3,000-seat    studio  and gave a series of lectures for which people would    be lined up around the block, waiting for the chance to get in    to hear me.  <\/p>\n<p>    This summer, Kagan went to China to give an intensive weekend    class at the Yale    Center Beijing, which was streamed live by 25,000 people.  <\/p>\n<p>    Advertisement  <\/p>\n<p>    Kagan has sold 13,000 copies of the English edition of Death,    according to Yale    University Press, but more than 230,000 copies in foreign    editions, including translations in both mainland Chinese and    Taiwanese characters, Korean and Japanese.  <\/p>\n<p>    It was a level of fame that I never, ever anticipated, Kagan    said  the fact that people around the world know me and think    about me and write me emails about the class, on a subject    that Americans try to avoid thinking about much of the time,    based on a course hes given about 10 times in his 22 years at    Yale. The course is available at <a href=\"http:\/\/oyc.yale.edu\/philosophy\/phil-176\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/oyc.yale.edu\/philosophy\/phil-176<\/a>.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its been just extraordinarily gratifying and humbling, to be    honest, said Kagan, 63, who lives in Hamden. I talk about a    wide variety of subjects in this class and some of them are    emotionally fraught.  <\/p>\n<p>    Kagan has several theories about why the subject of mortality    and what, if anything, happens after we die has become so    popular in South Korea and China.  <\/p>\n<p>    A part of the answer I think is both of these countries have    reached a certain stage in their development where moral    questions, questions about life, have come to the fore, Kagan    said. You had a couple of generations who were devoted to    rebuilding the economy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now, those in their 20s and early 30s, who are a large part of    his fan base, are wondering, Whats it all about? Whats worth    going after? he said. What makes one life more valuable than    another? These questions became really important, but theyre    not part of Korean education.  <\/p>\n<p>    Kagan said that in both cultures, the educational system does    not emphasize philosophical questions to the extent that the    emphasis tends to be on classical Asian figures like Confucius.     Here Im inviting people to think about philosophical    questions on their own.  <\/p>\n<p>    Also, Yale is the foremost university, I believe, from the    point of view of the educated Chinese.  <\/p>\n<p>    Finally, he speculates that his presentation may be appealing.    Starting out by sitting cross-legged on his desk, I get    excited and I jump off the desk and start bouncing around the    room, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    In his course and book, Kagan asks, What conclusions might you    reach about the nature of death? What can we know about death     just from thinking about it, based on the available evidence?     What conclusion would you come to if you were just using your    basic reasoning capacity, religion aside.  <\/p>\n<p>    He addresses the idea of the soul, or whats the possibility    of surviving life without my body? Its the idea of dualism,    that there are these two kinds of things, bodies and minds    and that they are separate. In that case, the mind could    continue to exist if the body gets destroyed.  <\/p>\n<p>    Or perhaps the mind is just a function of the body. Using the    analogy of a smile, which is a thing that your lips, your    teeth and tongue can do, Kagan said, If were just bodies    that can do these fancy tricks, then the mind must die with    the body. In order to know if death is really the end, we need    to think about what pieces are we made of, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Another question Kagan raises is, Can you survive the death of    your body? He suggests imagining that weve learned how to    grow synthetic bodies and that weve also learned how to    program the body so we could first upload your memories, your    beliefs into a computer and download them into the newly    created body.  <\/p>\n<p>    The question we need to ask is, is that [you] that woke up? If    you think that the key to personal identity is personality,    then of course its [you].  <\/p>\n<p>    Another part of the course asks, Does it make sense to be    afraid of death?, Kagan said. I lay out some of the    conditions that I believe fear has to meet if fear is going to    be justified and then I try to persuade them that one of those    conditions, or maybe more than one, isnt met when you talk    about fear of death.  <\/p>\n<p>    His conditions include that the thing youre afraid of needs    to be dangerous or bad. Second, theres got to be a    nontrivial chance that the bad thing will happen.  <\/p>\n<p>    While it could be argued that death meets those conditions,    Kagan said, The third condition is more controversial. Its a    cousin of the second condition. Its that the bad thing cannot    be certain. If its certain, then fear doesnt make sense.     Fear of the fact that you will be dead at some point  doesnt    make sense because its certain that you will be dead at some    point.  <\/p>\n<p>    Finally, Kagan discusses suicide. He believes that there are    cases in which suicide makes sense.  <\/p>\n<p>    We all think that some lives are better or worse than others,    he said. Wed all rather be healthy than sick.  Could there    be a life that is so bad that youd be better off not existing    at all? Such people might be those who are in the late stages    of a terminal illness or who are sinking into dementia and who    see that the time will come where whats left of my mind or    whats left of me will cease to exist.  <\/p>\n<p>    He does add a caveat that even if suicide would make sense    from a self-interested point of view, it might not be morally    legitimate.  <\/p>\n<p>    Of the thousands of messages hes received, Kagan said some of    the emails that have moved me the most have been from people    who have lost family members to suicide.  They have often    stumbled on my discussions and are thanking me for discussing    it calmly.  <\/p>\n<p>    One came from the family of a former soldier who had sought    help, had therapy but ultimately committed suicide. As they    were going through the brothers effects they came upon a    journal  where he was thinking about the pros and cons of    killing himself.  <\/p>\n<p>    The family discovered that the man had used Kagans book to    weigh whether or not to take his own life. While Kagan feared    the family would be angry at him, much to my surprise and    gratitude the woman ended up by saying their brother had made    his decision rationally  He had thought it through carefully    and they were grateful for that. She wasnt saying whether he    had made the right decision or not.  <\/p>\n<p>    Kagan provided tools to think about the question in a calm    fashion  If people of one kind or another have found the    discussion  helpful, I found that very humbling, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Call Ed Stannard at 203-680-9382.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Link: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nhregister.com\/general-news\/20170723\/asian-interest-breathes-new-life-into-yale-professors-course-about-death\" title=\"Asian interest breathes new life into Yale professor's course about death - New Haven Register\">Asian interest breathes new life into Yale professor's course about death - New Haven Register<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> NEW HAVEN > > When Yale University professor Shelly Kagans course on the philosophy of death was posted as one of Open Yales free online offerings, he couldnt anticipate what would happen next. The course, followed by the 2012 publication of the book Death by Yale University Press, brought Kagan celebrity status in South Korea, and he has become popular in China as well.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/mind-upload\/asian-interest-breathes-new-life-into-yale-professors-course-about-death-new-haven-register.php\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"limit_modified_date":"","last_modified_date":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-229872","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mind-upload"],"modified_by":null,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/229872"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=229872"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/229872\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=229872"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=229872"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=229872"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}