{"id":229149,"date":"2017-07-21T02:41:59","date_gmt":"2017-07-21T06:41:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/making-contact-jill-tarter-and-the-seti-search-astronomy-com-astronomy-magazine.php"},"modified":"2017-07-21T02:41:59","modified_gmt":"2017-07-21T06:41:59","slug":"making-contact-jill-tarter-and-the-seti-search-astronomy-com-astronomy-magazine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/astronomy\/making-contact-jill-tarter-and-the-seti-search-astronomy-com-astronomy-magazine.php","title":{"rendered":"Making Contact: Jill Tarter and the SETI Search | Astronomy.com &#8211; Astronomy Magazine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>What made you want to write a book about Jill Tarter and  her life?  <\/p>\n<p>    I care a lot about the details of science and understanding the    universe in traditional ways. Then I thought back to what had    very initially excited me about astronomy and made me want to    go into it and it was SETI and the big questions about SETI.    The biggest one: Are we alone? How does life develop? What is    our place in the universe? Then, I watched Contact    when I was 12 and when it came out I was very obsessed with it.    Then I started reading more and didn't quite realize that no    one had written anything long about Jill. But I was like,    Heres this woman whos really been around the whole time and    I know has inspired a lot of people, especially around my age    in astronomy. And all  that existed are these scattered    interviews with her and maybe its time someone did something    bigger.  <\/p>\n<p>    When did you first find out about Jill Tarter and her    work with SETI?  <\/p>\n<p>    Well I guess lets start with the fake Jill Tarter, because    that was all I knew from the film. All I knew was fake Jill    Tarter for a really long time. My family rented the movie    Contact probably as soon as it came out on video. Yes,    VHS. We watched it and Id never seen a movie that I cared    about so much and was just like, wow. Id never heard of    radio astronomy because I was 12. I didnt know that searching    for extraterrestrials was this scientific pursuit that was more    than science fiction. I was very enamored of this character,    Ellie Arroway, who had dedicated so much of her life, her fake    life to the search.  <\/p>\n<p>    Then I studied astronomy in college and did an internship in    Green Bank, West Virginia, where the first SETI search took    place. It turned out all the other interns were similarly    obsessed with Contact because [we] were the same age.    So we watched it one night and my friend said, Hey, you know    that is based on a real person. I was like, What? What are    you saying right now? Thats not true. Thats crazy. But it    was not crazy and it was true.  <\/p>\n<p>    Something that really runs through the book is Jills    consistent battle with sexism in her field. How important was    it for you to translate her experiences to the reader?  <\/p>\n<p>    It was really important for me to get across how much she had    to go through to be a revolutionary figure in astronomy. Good    and bad. Its great that she was able to withstand the    challenges of having her high school guidance counselor tell    her that girls didn't need to to take physics. After that,    being the only woman in her college classes and having to do    her homework by herself because she wasnt allowed on the boys    side of campus. Something thats important and something that I    think Jill didnt exactly realize until she was maybe in her    late 20s or 30s was that thats a good thing, and we need    people like that. But also that it shouldnt have to be that    way. You shouldnt have to be a revolutionary to be a woman in    science.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think things changed for her when she went to a meeting in    Washington, D.C., that brought together a bunch of women Ph.D.s    and she realized they were all going through the same sexist    struggles and were like, Thats ridiculous and its great that    we did it. But we shouldn't have to and we should help each    other instead of thinking, Well, I made it through, you can    make it through.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think thats the key because its 2017, no one should have to    be a revolutionary to take part in any field.  <\/p>\n<p>    One thing Jill and others in SETI have always battled    is the idea that the search for extraterrestrial life is    fringe, but really its a massive scientific endeavor. Do you    think we will ever stop associating SETI with being on the    outskirts of science?  <\/p>\n<p>    I think that from the beginning of Jills career, a large part    of what shes been trying to do is to convince people by    showing them that  science and engineering factors that go    into whether or not theres extraterrestrial life. Like how    stars form and how planets form and how microbial life develops    and that all of those are pretty straightforward, traditional    science topics that lead to extraterrestrials.  <\/p>\n<p>    Theres been a struggle her whole career to convince people    that its legitimate and they don't just sit around looking for    UFOs and little green men. I dont necessarily think that it    will ever be able to escape that.  <\/p>\n<p>    What do you want readers to take away about SETI and    what its like to be a part of the search?  <\/p>\n<p>    I would say that it takes an incredible amount of dedication    and passion to be a SETI scientist because theres not a lot of    money. There is a lot of public ridicule. Its hard to get    tenure at a university if youre studying it and you have to    really want it. You have to really care about it. Its not just    a throwaway, weird fringe hobby.  <\/p>\n<p>    Is there a part of the book you especially enjoyed    writing?  <\/p>\n<p>    In the first chapter theres a section where shes telling me    about being in high school. We spent a weekend at her cabin and    Donner Lake  just watching her and her husband interact in    real time and observing what they have in their cabin. Which    is, they have a bookshelf that has Vogue Sewing and    the Project Cyclops report from NASA. Then I went on a couple    of field trips with the interns they had at the SETI Institute    up to the Allen Telescope Array.  <\/p>\n<p>    In your year spending time with Jill, was there    something you learned about her life that was especially    surprising to you?  <\/p>\n<p>    The most surprising thing to me was when you think of someone    like Jill, whos been a leader in the field and such a public    figure, that they were always meant to do this work. Thats    just a nice story to tell yourself. But really, Jill kind of    thought about extraterrestrial intelligence when she was very    young. One time looking up at the stars she just thought, Huh,    I think theres probably someone else on the other side looking    back at me. Then she kind of left it alone until she was    almost 30.  <\/p>\n<p>    Has Jill ever talked about what its like being a role    model for an entire generation of people?  <\/p>\n<p>    She doesnt like to talk about it so much. She knows its true    because every conference she goes to, someone between the ages    of 20 and 40 comes up to her and tells her that. I think that    she ... she hasnt actually told me so this is an inference,    not a thing that I know for sure. Is that she is happy to be    that person that she didnt have in her own life.  <\/p>\n<p>    There were a few women astronomers that she could look up to,    but no one who was doing the kind of work she was doing. So I    think shes happy that other people can have that. But for the    most part shes very focused and a very practical person. I    think she probably thinks about it and then immediately puts it    out of her mind and just goes on with her work. I think thats    also what people look up to  her dedication to her work. So    its just a vicious cycle of being a role model for people.  <\/p>\n<p>    I have to ask since you wrote a book about a SETI    pioneer and its what inspired you to go into astronomy  do    you think were alone in the universe?  <\/p>\n<p>    I dont know. Well, I will caveat what Im about to say by    saying that the whole point of SETI is to answer that question    with science and not with guessing and wondering. So if I    thought I knew, I wouldnt have written a book about SETI    because I would not care that much about the science. So I    think its important to investigate it scientifically. That    said, I think the universe is an extremely large place. The    largest place. We know that it has so many planets now or so    many planets that can possibly host life. I think just    statistically it makes more sense to me that there would be    life and even intelligent life than it does statistically to    think, out of all of this stuff, were the one time this kind    of evolution happened.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Originally posted here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.astronomy.com\/news\/2017\/07\/jill-tarter-seti-search\" title=\"Making Contact: Jill Tarter and the SETI Search | Astronomy.com - Astronomy Magazine\">Making Contact: Jill Tarter and the SETI Search | Astronomy.com - Astronomy Magazine<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> What made you want to write a book about Jill Tarter and her life? I care a lot about the details of science and understanding the universe in traditional ways. 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