{"id":225290,"date":"2017-07-03T02:43:10","date_gmt":"2017-07-03T06:43:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/uncategorized\/born-into-that-excitement-a-conversation-with-anna-leahy-and-douglas-r-dechow-about-generation-space-a-love-lareviewofbooks.php"},"modified":"2017-07-03T02:43:10","modified_gmt":"2017-07-03T06:43:10","slug":"born-into-that-excitement-a-conversation-with-anna-leahy-and-douglas-r-dechow-about-generation-space-a-love-lareviewofbooks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/futurist-transhuman-news-blog\/space-travel\/born-into-that-excitement-a-conversation-with-anna-leahy-and-douglas-r-dechow-about-generation-space-a-love-lareviewofbooks.php","title":{"rendered":"Born Into That Excitement: A Conversation with Anna Leahy and Douglas R. Dechow About Generation Space: A Love &#8230; &#8211; lareviewofbooks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    JULY 2, 2017  <\/p>\n<p>    IN GENERATION SPACE: A LOVE STORY, co-authors Anna    Leahy, a poet and English professor, and Douglas R. Dechow, a    scientist and librarian, chart the two great passions in their    lives. One is, of course, their own relationship and marriage.    But the other is more universal: the magnetic force that drew    them together. They are, to borrow the title of a Facebook    conference, Space Hipsters: proud, highly educated generalists    who have followed NASAs space program since their earliest    years. But not since NASAs earliest years. They are members of    Generation X, which has a different relationship to space    travel than that of the Baby Boomers. Neither Leahy nor Dechow    were yet born when Sputnik launched. But they have witnessed    the triumphs of the International Space Station (ISS) and how    private money is changing the idea of space exploration.  <\/p>\n<p>    They revere the astronauts from the Apollo era and the    Shuttle program  astronauts who competed for a hard-won    identity. They are less keen on space tourists, for whom money    alone can buy an astronaut identity.  <\/p>\n<p>    I asked them about their book and why they wrote it.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    M. G. LORD: In Generation Space, you argue    that another way to characterize Generation X is through its    relationship to human space exploration. What did you    mean?  <\/p>\n<p>    ANNA LEAHY: We define Generation Space as all    of us who were born between 1957, when the Russian satellite    Sputnik launched (and the US birth rate peaked), and 1981, when    the space shuttle first launched. This generation never knew a    world before spaceflight. Space travel was the reality for us,    not an abstraction. In 1982, Time named the computer    Man of the Year. Generation Space knew a world before the    personal computer, but our students know computer technology as    part of the reality of their lives. When a person is born has a    lot to do with how that person sees the world and the future.  <\/p>\n<p>    DOUGLAS R. DECHOW: We were born in the    mid-1960s. My first memory is sitting in front of the    television watching Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin walk on the    Moon. At three years old, I was too young to understand what    that meant, but thats the point. For me, space travel was    something people did, not just possible but actual. Id argue    this space-faring reality makes Generation Space an especially    inquisitive bunch with high expectations. As educators, the    notion of what it means to be a Millennial  those who make up    our current student cohort  comes up frequently. While we were    developing the book, it was also trendy to write think pieces    comparing the traits of Boomers, Gen Xers, and Millennials, and    those pieces often highlighted the negative. We think of    Generation Space as an aspirational description, a way to tie    together the aesthetic, cultural, and scientific associations    of space travel with the group of people who were born into    that excitement, the feeling of adventure of that moment.  <\/p>\n<p>    I have to ask: Why do you refer to human space    exploration as manned exploration? (When I began my own book,    Astro Turf [2005], Donna Shirley, who was then head of    the team for the Mars Sojourner Rover, gave me an earful about    using that Apollo-era adjective instead of the more inclusive    human.)  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW: We do use the term human spaceflight    in the book, but not to the extent we should have. Mercury,    Gemini, and Apollo were men-only spaceflight programs, of    course, and a lot of the documentation of that era and the    writing since then refers to those programs as manned. Its    easy to pick up that old-fashioned diction tick. But the    Soviets sent women to space in the 1960s, and the astronaut    class of 1978 included six women, all of whom flew in space. We    talk in the book about how Shuttle changed the notion of    astronaut. Your point is incredibly important, and the larger    issue is something we continually address in our daily lives.  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: You have us thinking about how deeply    engrained gender-biased terminology becomes, for the real    struggle over not using manned is what to call spaceflight    without humans aboard. Not unmanned, then, but not un-human    or non-human either  so a parallel term isnt possible for    human spaceflight. Perhaps telerobotic, but that sounds    overly technical. The terms should probably be crewed and    uncrewed (which autocorrect wants to type as unscrewed, so    its not yet common parlance). That seems the way to go as we    and others continue to write about space exploration.  <\/p>\n<p>    You each write different chapters of the story  yet    you dont rigidly alternate chapter by chapter. How did you    decide who would tell what part of the story and how these    chapters would be assembled into the manuscript?  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW AND LEAHY: The first version of    Generation Space we drafted was in a together voice    (like this paragraph), which got us off the hook for deciding    who told which part of the story, but which created all sorts    of logistical problems, including referring to ourselves as    Anna or Doug. People didnt believe we could agree as much as    we do. Or maybe people dont like to admit that we make shared    stories of life too, that sometimes we default to others    versions if we arent sure, or that people who know each other    well sometimes really can finish each others sentences. So, we    talked about what we wanted to cover in the book  we had a    draft of that  and who had what to say about each part.  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: I wanted to talk about my sisters    accidental Sputnik holiday ornament and my mothers memory of    Alan Shepards launch. Separating our voices allowed a lot more    memory into the story. I saw Discovery on the launch    pad the first time we visited Kennedy Space Center (KSC), and    Doug didnt. So, there were scenes only one of us could write.  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW: My childhood memories and my story of    planning to become an astronaut and ending up a    scientist-librarian quickly became an important through-line    for the book. Of course, we had to negotiate a few instances in    which we remembered situations differently. To this day, we    disagree about which door at KSC we followed Buzz Aldrin    through when I caught sight of him. Theres an episode of the    90s TV show Mad About You in which the couple define    blue and green differently and adamantly. I remember us    watching that and laughing about the mundane things we see    differently. Separating our voices and divvying up chapters    taught us to share in new ways and to sit with our differences.  <\/p>\n<p>    You both graduated from the same college, but in    different years. Would you talk about how you met  and how you    kept a relationship going when your professional circumstances    forced you to live in different states?  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: When we started writing this book, we    didnt think of it as a love story. We wanted to be the eyes    and ears for others, not the subject of the book. As we    immersed ourselves in the history of spaceflight, we started    using the reference points and the questions to understand who    we were and how we had managed to stay together for more than    two decades.  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW: Wed been together as college students    for barely 18 months when we made our first major shared life    decision: leaving Knox College behind and moving as a couple to    Maryland. Shortly after getting settled, I started work at    NASAs Center for AeroSpace Information (CASI). Anna was a    graduate student, so, in a very real way, NASA was sustaining    our lives. This was a very intense period of figuring out who    we were and who we wanted to be.  <\/p>\n<p>    The outcome of that time, that we both wanted to be academics,    came with the realization that we might not always be in the    same time zone, let alone zip code. Our longest period of    separation was during my PhD program at Oregon State    University, while Anna was a new professor at a couple of    schools in the Midwest. Figuring out how to be together as a    couple while leading separate professional lives could have    unraveled us. One of the most intense times of loss then was    the destruction of the space shuttle Columbia in 2003.    We were on the phone watching the news and discussing our    responses nearly the entire day. We also made a habit out of    going out in the evenings to watch the International Space    Station overhead.  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: Our daily lives are not like living on    a space station, with no way to get home quickly  but that way    of life can help us understand what it means to be separated    from loved ones while pursuing your lifes goals. Analogies and    metaphors make sense to me because they use differences to make    similarities clearer, to clarify meaning. Whether two hundred    miles away on ISS, two thousand miles across the country, or in    the next room, were all making choices about how we want to    connect with others in our lives and about how much distance a    given relationship can endure.  <\/p>\n<p>    One thing I love about Annas sections is the way she    discusses the etymology of words with Latin derivations  e.g.,    purpose is to put forth. Anna, how did your study of Latin    influence your love of spaceflight? And, for that matter, of    poetry?  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: As a kid, I always liked grammar and    felt as if it wasnt something to learn so much as something    that made inherent sense in my brain. When I studied Latin in    high school, I realized that languages work differently  that    ancient Romans must have made sense of ideas differently,    because the verb tended to be at the end of the sentence. I    took an anatomy class as a senior, one of only a few girls    allowed to take a class over at the boys school, and that    course was filled with Latin terminology (which was as    memorable as the frog and cat we dissected). I studied Latin    again in college and graduate school, and built an appreciation    for how Latin words had made their ways into English  for the    fact that words have long histories, or ancestors.  <\/p>\n<p>    When I was working on my first poetry book, I started playing    with Latin again. I was really proud of myself for having done    something that felt useful or artful with what people think of    as a dead language. Its now part of my pondering as a writer,    whether in poetry or prose. Of course, astronomy draws    terminology from Latin  nebula, gibbous, orbit  so the    approach feels all the more natural to me in that context.  <\/p>\n<p>    Do you think the generation after yours appreciates the    romance of spaceflight? For years, champions of privatizing    spaceflight have said, Space is a place not a program. Yet    your love affair  the love affair of Generation Space  is    with a program, our collective national effort to    explore.  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: When we were following the end of the    space shuttle program six years ago, I mentioned to my students    what I was doing. Some of them were surprised to hear the    shuttle was still flying, and others were aghast that it was    being retired. I remember sitting in a hospital waiting room in    2012, and a story about the retired shuttles came on the    television. Everyone looked up, and people started talking    about it, saying that it wasnt right that the United States    wasnt flying humans to space anymore. There was the sense that    wed lost something important about who we are.  <\/p>\n<p>    Last year, though, 18,300 people applied to be part of NASAs    2017 astronaut class, which should be announced soon. The    previous record, of only 8,000, was set by the 1978 class, the    first to include women. Theres been a lot of space news lately     black holes colliding, close-ups of Jupiter, Voyager leaving    the solar system  and people want to take part in that    exploration.  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW: Alan Shepard was the first American to    go to space. His parabolic flight lasted only a few minutes,    and hed forgotten to change a filter so he didnt see the view    in full color. Yuri Gagarin had already orbited Earth by then.    Later, there was some dispute over whether his spaceflight    counted in the same way, because hed parachuted out of his    spacecraft. So, theres long been quibbling about how to    measure spaceflight accomplishments.  <\/p>\n<p>    But one thing is clear: spaceflight is a cool accomplishment.    In the fall of 2010, during one of our nerd date-nights for    writing blog posts, we were making backup plans for viewing a    shuttle launch in case neither of us became credentialed media.    At the table next to us were three young men animatedly making    plans for the same trip. Being generally nosy  many writers    eavesdrop  I listened in to their conversation, only to hear    the word Titusville mentioned several times. So, I engaged    them in conversation. Just like Anna and myself, they couldnt    believe that the Shuttle program was coming to an end, and they    wanted to be there to witness it.  <\/p>\n<p>    What impact will the privatization of spaceflight have    on its appeal? Does it degrade the idea of astronaut that    anyone with enough money can achieve that identity?  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: All the Mercury, Apollo, and Gemini    astronauts were white men. Although one attains the identity by    crossing the Krmn line, for a long time, it seemed that being    an astronaut was the job of only a few military test pilots.    The space shuttle era changed how we think about what it means    to be an astronaut. Id hate to see privatization narrow the    definition according to socioeconomic class. If I had $250,000    in spare change  thats more than the median home price in the    United States or the cost of a medical degree  Id definitely    be tempted to hand it over to Virgin Galactic to have six    weightless minutes in space. But I cant imagine the life of    someone like that.  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW: To be sure, there are some goofy ideas    afloat for human spaceflight. Mars One isnt so much a proposed    spaceflight to the Red Planet as it is a reality television    show in which theres no plan for the return trip. For several    years before the shuttle was retired, Space Adventures was able    to broker deals for private citizens to pay to ride aboard    Soyuz to the International Space Station. The idea that    spaceflight might become the purview of only the incredibly    wealthy is disturbing, but thats not what SpaceX or NASA seem    to be up to right now.  <\/p>\n<p>    As we worked on Generation Space, we warmed up to    commercial space more than we expected. Its important to    remember that, because NASA belongs to all of us, SpaceX can    draw from 50 years of research and development. To watch the    video of the Falcon 9 launch and then return to land on a barge    is spectacular. This year, the same Falcon 9 launched and    landed on that same barge. Despite the tough questions its    posing, commercial space is earning my respect.  <\/p>\n<p>    I loved the way much of the drama in the book involved    the nuisance of getting credentials for launches  and the    hierarchical nature of those credentials. Anna, how did you    feel when you were awarded credentials (for a non-launch, if I    remember correctly) and Doug wasnt? Did you feel like you had    to do a better job  or that Doug, because of his scientific    training  should be there in your place?  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: Getting a media badge made us feel as    if we were taken seriously and had to live up to that    well-vetted, professional designation. When I was awarded a    badge for Discoverys last launch and Doug wasnt,    that seemed like a big test for whether we were up to this    project, and also a big test of our relationship. Its easy for    a couple to talk about how they want the best for each    other and would do anything for each other.  <\/p>\n<p>    We told ourselves  rightly, I think  that one media badge was    better than none. As we prepared, I did panic that I didnt    know enough about the technology to know what to ask or how to    see what I was seeing  that Doug should have been the one    designated as press. All that fell away as soon as I passed    through the security gate at Kennedy Space Center.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ive never felt more pressure to do a good job, to learn new    terminology quickly, to pay attention. I forced myself to be    assertive, to interview an astronaut, to not let myself relax.    No one at KSC knew who I was or cared whether I left, so I was    my best self during that not-launch trip in part because no one    was watching me but me. I stood yards away from    Discovery on the launch pad. I could hardly speak, but    after I caught my breath, I called Doug. I worried that he    would be resentful, but he seemed utterly happy in hearing my    joy. Thats something we carry with us now, genuinely being    happy for each other.  <\/p>\n<p>    Okay, now the question the astronauts mostly dodged:    Which orbiter is your favorite? Endeavour?    Discovery? (Do you both agree?) And why?  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW AND LEAHY: Endeavour. We have    too many associations with Endeavour now. Its the    first orbiter we saw in person, when it landed in California in    2008. Its the first orbiter we saw launch in person, for its    last launch in 2011. Its the orbiter we saw up close, when we    got a private tour of Endeavour in the Orbiter    Processing Facility after its last launch. Its the orbiter    that we can drive to see any time. And we like the astronauts    who chose a favorite too.  <\/p>\n<p>    Anna, how did Southern Californiaraised astronaut Mike    Coats react when you told him you had never been to    Disneyland?  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: Oh, he was terribly disappointed in me.    Mike Coats was the first astronaut I ever met. Hed flown    Discovery three times, and he was the director of    Johnson Space Center at the time I spoke with him. I hadnt    thought about the sort of access a media badge would entail,    and we spent about 10 minutes alone in a KSC conference room    for the interview. He really warmed up when I asked him about    growing up in California and spending a lot of time at    Disneyland. When I admitted that I hadnt been to Disneyland,    he said, Anna, shame on you. I still havent been to    Disneyland. Maybe my refusal is a way to preserve the integrity    of that first conversation with an astronaut.  <\/p>\n<p>    Doug, what cool space artifacts have you acquired for    the Chapman University library?  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW: Whistleblowers Roger Boisjoly and    Allan McDonald  two of the Morton Thiokol engineers who were    adamant that NASA not launch the space shuttle    Challenger on that cold, fateful morning in 1986     have both donated their papers to the Leatherby Libraries.    While both collections are wonderful, Roger Boisjolys    materials contain a wealth of engineering documents, notebooks,    and photographs that speak to the technical problems that beset    the solid rocket boosters that ultimately led to    Challengers destruction.  <\/p>\n<p>    The library also participated in a government program when NASA    sought permanent homes for items it was no longer using. We    received a number of items, some of which  including a laptop    and some gloves  had flown in space. We have an    almost-light-as-air space shuttle tile that has been on an    orbiter but never left Earth. We also received a number of    models of 1960s-era satellites  including a Nimbus weather    satellite and an Orbiting Geophysical Observatory  that had    probably served as traveling educational exhibits. Each wooden    case contained assembly instructions and torn, yellowed    photographs of the models in their demonstration roles. That    familiar museum storage basement smell wafted from the cases    when we opened them. It made us wonder if it had been several    decades since the cases were last opened and who had been the    last person to touch them prior to us.  <\/p>\n<p>    In designing syllabi or in your teaching methodology,    do you do anything to encourage your students to share your    passion for space exploration?  <\/p>\n<p>    LEAHY: I teach mostly creative writing classes    and do talk with students about my writing projects.    Encouraging creative writing students, though, focuses more on    process and craft. When I see an opening, of course, I sneak in    science and space exploration. Not too long ago, a student used    black hole as a metaphor, and I encouraged some extra    research to think about what that might really mean and how the    language used to talk about black holes applied or didnt.    Thinking about space and the universe adds some perspective to    a writers life.  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW: Ive taught a number of short, one- or    two-hour courses based on the items in the Boisjoly collection.    I get a chill each time I work with those materials. Its    really something to hold an O-ring in your hand, to know    tangibly how small the diameter is, and to realize that that    part doomed Challenger. The engineering materials in    the collection make clear that the problems and risks    associated with the space shuttle program in the mid-1980s were    well understood. So its my job to use those materials to show    that the Challenger accident was a failure of human    decision-making.  <\/p>\n<p>    Would you go to Mars if you had the    opportunity?  <\/p>\n<p>    DECHOW AND LEAHY: We dont have the    opportunity. Were too old. So, its easy to say yes without    thinking about the consequences such a decision would have. We    do want humans to go to Mars, but thats for Generation Mars to    accomplish. Think about what it would mean for people to be    born into a world in which living on another celestial body was    the reality.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    M. G. Lord is the author    of Forever Barbie: The Unauthorized Biography of a Real    Doll, Astro Turf: The Private Life of Rocket    Science, andThe Accidental Feminist: How    Elizabeth Taylor Raised Our Consciousness and We Were Too    Distracted by Her Beauty to Notice. She teaches nonfiction    writing at USC.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/article\/born-into-that-excitement-a-conversation-with-anna-leahy-and-douglas-r-dechow-about-generation-space-a-love-story\/\" title=\"Born Into That Excitement: A Conversation with Anna Leahy and Douglas R. 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